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Posted: 10 years ago
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Good post Gan!!!
I just cannot understand what CVs are achieving by all these... even they are not getting TRPs.
Mani track was hated by many (not me) but that time trps increased... so it was justified as it is business a the end of the day.

But, now... what are they trying to achieve.

They should atleast give an ishra separation to do justice to what ishra was till now.

Raman more than loving you need to respect your wife...

Adi🤬- either u turn out to be someone else kid or just die in the show. CVs can bring him with same hatred for ishra after leap. But save us from this 12 year old psychopath for now
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Bud...you're entire post/rant is perfect...it's exactly how I feel.

Everything is so garbage with this storyline...a big ass fitay moo to the writers!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey Gan! I've been a silent reader of the topics on this forum for the past few days because I've honestly been trying to see if someone could possibly shed some light on what's going on in this show right now. I've read posts bashing Raman and Toshi ji, posts explaining Raman's perspective, posts claiming that Ishita deserves the treatment she's getting, posts relating this track to the Mani track, posts wanting Adi to die, etc. I just read them and didn't bother to comment because I didn't know how to word my frustrations and pen them down coherently. But reading your post today, I couldn't help myself from throwing my somewhat composed thoughts out into the discussion as well.

Raman was my FAVORITE character on the show because he was REAL; he showed flaws but he also showed growth. When Adi first came into the Bhalla house, I loved Raman's stance about his son. Adi would have to accept the bitter reality of his parent's divorce and move on with the fact that Ishita is the most important part of his father's life now. When Raman expressed multiple times how much he loved Ishita, I couldn't believe that we were actually seeing some true character growth in an Indian TV serial, but I was overjoyed about this. Even when Raman yelled at Ishita and said some pretty unforgettable and nasty things to her in his anger, I could understand his perspective as a father who had just started building a delicate relationship with his son after so many years, only to have his hopes shattered again. Oftentimes when we are angry, we say the first thing that comes to our mind and we lose all capacity to judge how bitter those words actually are. Usually when we are angry, we lose awareness for what we are saying, when and where we are saying it, and how we might sound to others. I was even able to half-digest his ignorance at the true reason behind Ishita's anger and inability to appropriately apologize to her because a lot of times husbands just don't get it and they try to smooth things over or sweep things under the carpet by acting like things are all normal right after a big fight (words of my mom). Up until that point, I was still able to watch Raman while cringing at his behavior and dialogues, but without feeling like I was banging my head against a wall.

The point where I could no longer justify his actions even a tiny bit started from when Ishita clearly expressed why she was upset with him, and the words just didn't reach his brain. But chalo, even that was maybe just one or two steps backwards for him. Another hit when Adi introduced Ishita as the neighbor, but let's give Raman the benefit of doubt and say that he didn't hear those words. But what in the world could possibly justify his words in today's precap??? I completely lost it after hearing those words because NOTHING, absolutely nothing, can redeem Raman as a husband after this!

It's your first lohri celebration with your wife after your marriage. Okay granted that you two are going through a rough patch and things are not okay between the two of you, but you yourself have countless times expressed just recently how much your wife means to you, both through your words and your actions. Fine, you love your son and are over the moon about the fact that he's finally connecting to you after all these years. But to agree to do the lohri pooja with your ex-wife of 6 years on the mere insistence of your son (who frankly didn't even throw that big of a hissy fit) just because you can't find your wife at that moment and the "mahurat" is passing by? Really? Then on what grounds are you going to proclaim later that you love your wife and give her the "izzat" and "bharosa" that she is asking from you? Are you not behaving like the biggest hypocrite right now by giving your son the same false sense of security and hope about his divorced parents reuniting into a happy family that you reprimanded your wife for after her actions at the New Year party? The level of disappointment and frustration that I felt during today's precap is at an all-time high; I fail to see how Raman can be redeemed now. Why go to such extremes to butcher a character and increase the drama quotient only to have everything be okay in the end within the blink of an eye?

Today it was locking Ishita into a room and insisting his father do the pooja with his mom, but tomorrow Adi will go one step further until he has thrown Ishita out of the house completely. What is it going to take for Raman Bhalla to draw the line of what's acceptable and what's not?

At this point, it doesn't really matter if Adi's true intentions and Shagun's manipulation of her son comes out in front of Raman and the rest of the Bhallas because it wouldn't change the fact that they have been blindly putting Ishita as well as Ruhi down for Adi's sake. They have clearly shown that their loyalty lies with their ghar ka chirag and they don't give two hoots for their daughter-in-law unless she is doing things for them, sacrificing her happiness, or taking care of their every need. Even if Raman is completely unaware of the true intention of Adi's actions, how would knowing the truth change anything? Would it make him love his son any less? I don't think so because the father who can look past his son's earlier criminal acts that have caused his mother-in-law to land up in the hospital and his wife to end up in jail shouldn't have too tough of a time forgiving his son for trying to plot against his wife and throw her out of the house.

I honestly don't see how things can go back to normal (even though I know they will) because every single person in the Bhalla household has blatantly expressed that Adi is the most important person for them and both Ruhi and Ishita come at a far second. Raman can blast his six-year old daughter without a second thought, but he can't put his foot down on his son's most outrageous demands? His son places hundreds of conditions before coming back to him, but his daughter has selflessly loved him for all these years even when he didn't give her a second glance. His daughter even outright proclaimed that her father was her most favorite person in the world, but Raman didn't feel the true value of being a father until his son came back into his life. I don't expect Raman to completely detach himself from Adi, but why completely erase the growth that his character had shown after Amma's accident track and to a large extent the beginning of this track?

Coming to Ishita, I have nothing much to say except that I feel extremely sorry for her. She's going through all this silently just for the sake of her husband and family, who can clearly see but still willingly choose to ignore her plight all for the sake of their so-call ghar ka chirag.

That came out much longer than expected, so sorry for giving you this entire essay. You don't have to read through every word; I just wanted to vent out my frustrations. Thank you for the space Gan!

Edited by nividances - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Gan
A much needed post!
Kuch aur kena ka bacha hi nahi!

CVs NEED to open their eyes!
RECTIFY ASAP, IF POSSIBLE!!!!

I am sooo pissed 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈 today just from reading lu!!!!!
WHERE THE HELL HAS THE YHM AND CHARACTERS I FELL IN LOVE WITH GONE!!!!!

BRING THEM BACK, NNNOOOWWW!!!!!!

Nina
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Perfect post yaar!
totally agree to you!

None found it necessary to correct Adi's neighbor introduction. And Choti maa? whose choti ma? and how? what sort of introduction was that? even then none pitched in to save their bahu's dignity and honor!

really ridiculous and torturous!

The only factor I liked was Ishita's silence and dislike she showed in her expressions. really really happy that they didnt show her faking a smile before all.

Precap only proves Raman's inclination. If he can agree to do pooja and pheras with another woman in place of his wife, then that only means that he can do anything to please his son.
Tomorrow Adi wishes to sleep between his mamma and papa, woh bhi karenge...Ishita can sleep with Ruhi! None would object to that wish of his too!

Cvs have conveniently forgotten Shagun's 6 years with Ashok stint during which he was Adi's father. Bhalla chiraag was all set to become Khanna chiraag...the same Adi pushed away his dad...now he tells his mother that she is also his father's wife...dimaag ka kuch hissa kahi gaayab hogaya shaayad...zara doondo yaar!😡


Edited by vidya.anand - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I am in a mood to rant , so please indulge me

Jaisa tu chahta hai, waise hoga...main yeh pooja teri mumma ke saat karoonga"

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD what the hell was Raman thinking when he decided to do the Pooja with Shagun? 😡 I would very much like to know what he was thinking. Please somebody just tell me already.

Is Raman so gair-guzra that he too will need Ruhi's wake-up call to make the decision of who it is he has to do the pooja with? So what if Ruhi hadn't created the hungama we know she wll, would Raman have gone ahead and performed the pooja with Shagun? That pooja which he is supposed to do with his wife Ishita? Which rightfully belongs to her?

  • Sabse badi sachayi yeh hai ki Adi ke Maa-Baap talaq-shuda hai..6 saal ho gaye iss baat ko.
  • Adi meri jaan hai, meri kamzori hai lekin yeh baat bhi utna hi sach hai ki Shagun mere liye koi mayne nahi rakhti aur Adi ko yeh baat aaj nahi toh kal maanni hogi.
  • Adi ko iss baat se sehmat bhi hona padega ki uski mummy-papa ek saat nahi ho sakte ab. Usse comfortable hona padega iss sach ke saat. Shagun iss family ka hissa hai lekin sirf uski Maa ki bataur par hai who, USKE PAPA KE PATNI KI NAHI!!!

Where are these words? Vanished into thin air? Has Raman has gone 6 years back in time? Because his actions clearly indicate the same...he seems to think something as life-altering as divorcing Shagun and then again life-altering as marrying Ishita hasn't taken place; that he and Shagun are very much together. How else can one explain him not taking any efforts *rati bhar bhi* to make his first born see the actual truth? But is rather busy misleading the GKC and giving him hopes of a future together with his parents as a couple.

"Shagun, Ishita aur mere beech kabhi nahi aa sakti"

By agreeing to Adi's whims wasn't he clearly allowing Shagun to come between Ishita and himself?

Just minutes before he comes down to the Lohri Function Raman was seen telling to himself after Ishu refuses to accept his half-sincere apology, that he should do something that would make Ishita see that he was truly sorry about what happened, that he trusts her and also so that she can trust your love. And to then go and do this. PATHETIC!!! With every action Raman is letting Ishita down because he is busy playing the majboor baap.

I understand Ishita's silence way better than Raman's hopeless helplessness. If Ishita kept completely quiet then it would have been something else but even in her anger she is communicating with Raman and letting him know of her disappointment in 'short-to the point' sentences.

As much as I want Ishita to scream and fight I get her dilemma she does not want to come in between Papa-beta even unknowingly. Somewhere she fears that she saying anything directly or indirectly will be perceived in the wrong way. So she is keeping away and quiet.

Even today when Adi introduces Ishita as their neighbor which is heard by everybody including Raman nobody takes the effort to correct him. Ishita looks at the Sr. Bhalla's, looks at Raman but they all pass weird looks to one another and then stands with their head bowed down. I agree Ishita could have corrected him, but is there a guarantee that it won't be the next topic of argument? 'Tum ne aisa kyun kaha"... 'Tumne kuch kaha hi kyun?"... 'Tumhari wajah se Adi ghar chod ke gaya" etc etc will fill the walls of Bhalla House. She has bore the brunt of one such incident so why would she want one again? But the Bhalla's or Raman could have easily corrected it, infact they should have; not only because it was wrong but because they owe it to Ishita but as usual they decided to let Adi get away with it.

So again I ask had Ruhi not advocated for Ishita, had she not spoken up would everybody and most importantly Raman stand as mere spectators and played puppet-puppet for Adi's khushi while his wife gets hurt in the process and cries.😭

'Adi ki khushi ke liye' this supposed action was taken. So will Raman do anything for the sake of Adi's happiness? Tomorrow if Adi says for my happiness Marry my mother Shagun' will Raman oblige? Will he jeopardize his and most importantly Ruhi's happiness which resides in her Ishima? To what extent is Raman willing to go for Adi's happiness?

Kuch bhi ho Raman shouldn't have agreed to this EVER. Even if Adi cribs or stays stubborn, even if Toshi Ji ask Raman to listen to Adi's demands...why say more agar Ishu herself asks Raman to do the pooja with Shagun...He should have put his FOOT DOWN and REFUSED. The ultimate decision making power lies within him. A man like Raman who claims to be very much in love with his wife, promises to respect her no matter what should not even contemplate to be a part of something like this. In a way by agreeing to do the pooja with Shagun he disrespected Ishita and her position as his wife, Ruhi's mom and the bahu of the Bhalla House. The guilt trip he takes after this if any, can never nullify what he did in the first place.

There is nothing wrong in wanting Adi's happiness but at what cost? The tears and pain of another person who happens to be his wife; Does she really deserve this 3rd class treatment? Raman knows Ishu is hurt and still goes ahead with Adi's khushi than consoling his wife...This is pure abandoning in a way.

Is Raman such a pathetic irresponsible dad that he is fueling his son's delusions to keep him happy? Was this not the almost exact same reason that Raman shouted at Ishita (HNY Drama). Then why is he now turning complacent? WHAT CHANGED?

Shagun's game plan is crystal clear, she is using Adi to show to Ishita that the latter is an outsider and that she aka Shagun even if ex-wife is very much a part of Raman's life because she is the mother of Raman's son. And knowingly and unknowingly Raman is playing from Team Shagun. Raman has witnessed firsthand the games Shagun can play. He was a victim of her lies and betrayals and still not making an attempt to connect the dots. Highly Unrealistic!

Raman is failing everybody Ishu, Ruhi, Adi and Himself!!! Utho Raman...Rise...and prove that you are indeed a good person, a loving-responsible father for your kids and a great husband for Ishita.

The CV's need to stop destroying Raman's character beyond redemption!

Rant Over!!!!

Edited by stylish_VJ - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Wow. You said everything.
One more thing that I found avsolutely illogical was Raman's "toh aur kya chahiye" when ishita refuses to accept his sorry.

Nothing of raman's behavior makes sense. HOW CAN HE SAY YES TO POOJA? I ALWAYS THOUGHT HE WOULD AGREE TO DO POOJA CAUSE OF HIS MAJBOORI and not by ACCEPTING it like this!

I wanted to throttle aditya today. He is no more a kid. He is delinquent. Moron. And a jackass.


when he was acting stubborn raman should have had slapped him and said MY WIFE is missing.

I am disappointed it will take RUHI'S interferance for raman and other bhallas to actually do the right thing.


I DO NOT WANT ISHITA TO FORGIVE RAMAN. BAS.

I felt nauseous after watching the episode. So much nonsense.


Trps girne ke baad bhi akkal nahi aayi cvs ko? God.


Aditya needs to go. Away. Forever. And ever. To australia or US or wherever. I dont care.

HE IS 12 YEARS OLD WITH CRIMINAL TENDENCIES FOR GOD'S SAKE. NOT A FREAKING HEART PATIENT.






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Posted: 10 years ago
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Of course it is not Gan.
Because Ishita gave away her earrings to Shagun.

And she also said "I Love You" to Mani.

Didn't you know? Ishita is the one solely responsible for this mess? And she deserves to be burnt in the Lohri fire? Because she has caused extreme disappointment to the Bhallas by getting their son home?

How can it be wrong when it's done by the male lead of the show? How can it?

P.S : Will post my actual rant in the morning. This is my current frustration.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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GKC IS A CRIMINAL PSYCHO.PLANNING &PLOTTING EVEN WITHOUT TAKING AIRHEADS HELP...NOBODY TRIED 2 CORRECT ADI WHEN HE INTRODUCED ISHU AS NEIGHBOUR..ENTIRE BHALLA CLAN R INSENSITIVE AND SELFISH..

PRECAR-DISGUSTING RKB...DOING POOJA WITH EX...FOR GOD SAKE THAT LADY BETRAYED U .HAD AFFAIR WHEN SHE WAS STILL MARRIED 2 U..H CD HE FORGET EVERYTHING AND BE NORMAL WITH AIRHEAD...CDNT DIGEST YAAR...DOUBT WETHER HE LOVES ISHU TRULY...NO WOMEN DESERVE 2 BE TREATED LIKE THIS...FEELING BAD 4 ISHU..SHE SD LEAVE BHALLA HOUSE...

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BANG ON POST GAN..LUV U... 👏 👏

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