YHM -Daily Episode Discussions and Live Updates Thread #42 - Page 88

Originally posted by: luks28

Brilliant post Aani👏


PS :-Awesome analysis Aani . I did not read your previous 2 post ,, after reading banana.ishrareply i went back and read the other 2 post, i guess you have covered all the questions people have in this forum with these post .
Excellent post👏
Came back to edit my comment😳

Originally posted by: banana.ishra

READ ALL UR POST AANI...BRILLIANT ANALYSIS...SO FROM BIOCHEMISTRY U SHIFTED TO ECONOMICS...😉

Originally posted by: ThithliDhost

Anni,

You are right abt mani not knowing much about how marriage works.. And that his intentions are not bad. He is not purposely trying to wedge distance between ishra..

Mani is as always only focussed on Ishitha. Her happiness and her loses. His opinion about Raman is a prejudiced one. It is difficult to overcome such opinion. Hence one moment he sees Raman's goodness and the other he is concerned that Raman will not be fair to ishitha. Like he said to Asok, anything which causes pain to ishitha is like a loss to him.. And he takes upon himself to cut the loses.

He needs to understand and accept that, Ishitha is now someones wife and part of a family. Above that, he needs to understand, realise that Raman can take very good care of Ishitha.raman will not let go of ishitha come what may. Ishitha will always come first in raman's life. Whatever he does, he will do keeping ishitha's happiness in mind and be fair as situation calls for.. The marriage may have started off as a contract one, a soudha , ruhi ke liye.. But it is no more valid. The marriage is all about love, being their for each other, being a team and for the family. iMO Once Mani sees this, he will fade away..but how, through what circumstances mani will realise this, is what i am eagerly waiting for.

Btw, onething i notice, am sure many have , is how mani gets involved in a situation related to Ishitha, starts ball rolling, but Raman is the one who takes it to the finish..and the ones Raman is not involved yet, still has not finished..

For eg, sarika romi issue, is still open ended.. Raman is still not involved..

Shagun asoak marriage, v know will not happen.. Raman is not involved in this yet..

Bailing ishitha out of jail.. Case closed because raman was involved

Harassment.. Mani reached the spot on time but Again raman was the one to give her the support needed (rightfully so)

Anyways, its not about mani.. It is about ishra. :-).. Mani is just that mani, bindu, catalyst..

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Originally posted by: peachesandcream

Aani, what a lovely explanation of Mani's perspective. I will go against the grain of popular opinion on the forum as well and agree with you completely. Recent events have landed Ishita in trouble and not of the trivial sort. She has been put into serious situations by Adi. I think as a friend Mani 's concern has been escalating and rightly so. In fact the last situation, where Ishita ended up at the bachelor party, had potential for extreme consequences. Mani has seen Raman's erratic side as well as some of his good qualities. From his perspective there is enough to raise his concern level. Good friends do care for one another and sometimes bring things to the forefront that their friend may not want to hear but needs to. From his point of view his friend is in a situation which will bring her nothing but distress and he feels the need to present these harsh truths to her. I will stick my neck out and say that he might be remiss as a friend if he did not voice his concerns.

Your explanation of his viewpoint of being someone who has never experienced a relationship is right on the mark.

Raman is now seeing where his own shortcomings have been with respect to Ishita.

How Mani's conversation and Amma's conversation will play out in respect to the promo will be interesting to see.

Raman is now seeing what a marriage means to a woman. This is his first experience with a woman who is invested in the marriage and not just what she will gain from it. His marriage with Shagun was all about pleasing her and keeping her happy. This time it is different and he has seen Ishita make sacrifices for him and for his family. It may take him a a bit of time to understand that he can meet her halfway and how he can correct his mistakes. Hopefully he can realize that he can make amends and this does not mean sacrificing the marriage

I hope this made sense. I usually like to read more then write.😳

Originally posted by: daydreamers

Aani saashtaang le aj mujhse 👏👏 ur post is totally in sync wid my thots... Kya kahu simply superb..😳

This is most neutral take I have read on d char Mani...

U know this man is completely practical n I ges that's y he's still single...

M reminded here of Mani ishu convo @ d cafe before the house warming party...

Itne samajhte ho relationships ko toh akele kyun ho??

Samajhdaar hu isliye...

N smthn like d below (don't rem d exact lines)

Koi bardaasht karne wali mil jaye...

He himself knows dis that he's not manageable 😆

But does this make Mani negative??? I don't think so...

I being single can understand very well wat u r trying to say aani... V give practical solutions smthn that may sound incoherent n rude to others.. V may not give correct solutions but directly or indirectly v point the problem very sharply... Within a fraction of second v r able to figure out what's brewing cz there v r d third party...

Mani in his place is doing d ryt job as of now... Family matters to him or not m not bothered, but he's definitely making these idiots reflect on their situations individually ryt from the beginning...

Originally posted by: shidin0117

Dear Aani Maam,

Thanks for the wonderful lesson in English, with dash of economics, fiction, physchiatry😆

BTW wonderful post, very beautiful written, teri dimaag mera pranam, aise hi likthe rehena

Originally posted by: Ohgod!

Hang in there Aani while i find words to type in response to these gems by you today!! 😛 Im actually feeling kinda silly to even attempt a response 🤪

You do realise that your posts are so exhaustive that by the time I finished the third I forgot the first! So read it all over! And repeated this a few times..😆 And now concluded that there is actually NOTHING to add to this at all..😳

But let me still try and say something for the sake of making you say something more since you really are on a roll today!! 😉🤗

Im gonna stick to just one response here for all ur posts!!!! No chance I'll ever get around trying to respond to each separately🤔

Humm.. So Mani.. I for one am slightly biased in favour of this character!! From the beginning!! I'm very close friends with a guy for the longest time and he's still single! I have seen/heard his opinions on relationships and I've to agree that a) men look at relationships differently from women b)single men look at relationships way too differently from women c) single men continue to look at their relationship the same way even with married friends!! Now there have been several several instances in the past one year that I've had relationship convos with my friend.. And each time I have realised that whatever they may say, feel, do, most single men tend to always evaluate other relationships they see.. They tend to pass judgements on what is right or wrong in their opinion... And to be fair to them, they say it keeping utmost care and love for the other person in mind! But that even women do.. If we see our friend in trouble with her partner, don't we tend to advise her/him what we feel is right?

Mani to me is a very very good friend.. But he's only Ishita's friend hence he's not able to see the whole picture.. I feel like comparing Mani to Mihir.. Both are sorted men in their own right.. But Mihir has always only talked of keeping the family together.. I agree RKB has never been put in any trouble by Ishita the way Ishita has been by RKB's kin but still.. Even when they thought Ishita had made a wrong business decision, when Raman had to give up his presidentship, Mihir always had a scene telling Ishita she did wrong or telling Raman to think twice but never did he pass a judgement on Ishita.. And even when Mihika repeatedly suggests Ishita should leave that house or leave Raman, after the Param fiasco, Mihir calms her down.. Mihir is by nature a very binding person.. And that maybe cos he has seen what happens when a family breaks! He has seen what happens when a person is left stranded by the one he thought would be his life long partner..

Now Mani has not been by Ishita's side in the most crucial time - the aftermath of Subbu betrayal.. He has no idea how committed Ishita can be and how broken she can be by betrayal.. Yes he's her best friend and he's seen the happy go lucky Ishu who was always happy and cheerful but he's not seen the change in his best friend in the last few years.. The Ishu who was rejected and broken and lifted herself up and emerged strong from a heartbreak! If this wedding was indeed a deal, it was a deal from both sides.. Ishita wanted to enter the deal as much as Raman.. And dare I say moreso Ishita.. Of course Mani is not privy to the circumstances under which the wedding took place and so he has a very limited view of the entire scenario.. He talks from just the last weeks when unfortunately things outside of the bedroom have been going more wrong than right!! So given that he's right in being concerned as a friend.. And he's right to think Raman may choose Adi over Ishita..

But here is where now my question comes in.. Raman had told ishita in as many words that "Adi apni jagah hai aur tum apni jagah". Yes, in the accident case he chose Adi, but was that a choice between Ishita and Adi - no it was between truth and Adi and he chose Adi. Then he did what a father would do.. This time around he's a husband who's wife has been insulted. And a husband who loves his wife dearly, a husband who has seen what his wife's condition is. Will the father in him win over the husband? Now can we for argument sake compare what amma said and what he overhears Mani saying? One talks about what a husband should do and the other talks about what a father would do.. I for one wonder if Raman would evaluate both... Raman needs Ishita to get Adi on track.. Even if he has to do it with Shagun (cos separating Adi from Shagun will only make the kid a bigger rebel IMHO) he will still need Ishita by his side.. And even if we forget Adi for a moment, Ruhi will always need Ishita.. Whether Raman thinks he failed in this relationship or not, whether he feels Ishita will be better off without him or not, he certainly has to know Ishita's happiness is Ruhi! He certainly will have to evaluate that right? Will he pick Adi over Ruhi? Hell why consider Adi, Ruhi at all, will Raman be able to move a single step ahead without her by his side?

Again, I have to think of the "I dont give up on anyone" dialogue.. He may have said it in any sense but he did mean it.. And now, when he KNOWS - very very clearly that Ishita loves him too - when they have just made a promise - one where he was the one to ask for it in the first place - to stay by each other forever - how will he break it for whatever reason??

If he has to think of Amma's talks, if he has to listen to Mani's thoughts, shouldn't he also listen to his own? And of Ishita's? Shouldn't they have a bearing on his decision as well??

Phew... bas.. I don't even know what I have typed...😆 I just went on typing.. LOL.. Sorry for typos and lack of coherence or sense 😒