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Posted: 10 years ago
#71
Actually most people are liking this track there are polls going on in the forum to prove it
Eg
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4185282

And even this one

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4185263
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: shavi2311

im nt hating amni bt he is making his misconceptns wid out knwing raman...i agree arman need a reality chck abt his wife nd her tastes bt raman is cant say any thng softly due fear of loosing his loved one's(ishita)...he taunts ishita bt if othr vl say any thng to her he is the frst person to defend her...may b he cant shw his feelings in open due fear of rejectn...


I don't think he is creating any misconceptions, but of course that's your opinion. I know realistically, if my dad taunts my mom in public, I don't like it. She will say no it was a joke, but in private that's okay. But Raman does it khullam khulla and its hurtful. He doesn't need to have a fear of rejection. Ishita has actually done everything but tell him she likes him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: HappyMelody

People hate Mani? But why? He's just being a nice guy and a really good friend. He's poles apart from Raman behaviour wise but that's no reason to dislike him? I think he will bring out the best in Raman towards Ishita


I agree, with you 100%. I don't see how you can hate a character because he is 'too good'. So far no ill intentions have been shown from Mani's side. He has been good to Raman, and respectful overall. He has not confronted him, or hit on Ishita...so just because Raman is noticing how much he has neglected Ishita because of him, its being considered problematic.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: PyaarDostiHai

Love your way of stating things dear! Absolutely perfect!

You're completely right in that Ishu has had her insecurity thrown in her face everyday. I never even thought about that. I guess I just love these characters and I don't like it when people dislike them 😳

Waiting to see a Raman who can be our RKB without being rude and hurtful. I think we'll like the middle ground between this RKB and Happy Bhalla as you've all said. I don't want to see Raman as another Mani, all sweetness. I want to see Raman as himself, little spicy but also sweet and caring. I'll be unhappy if he goes all the way back to being nerdy Happy Bhalla too. The character has progressed so let him stay progressed.

Thank you for the compliment dear. Your name is very pretty too. ❤️
Hey just because we're online doesn't mean we cant get to know each other right? 😃


Absolutely!!! I just find that a lot of people here, kind of know each other from other forums perhaps, so I kind of just watch from the outside of the social circle. But heck we could start one of our own 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Apparently

If Mani had entered the show 3 or 4 months ago, this track would have made a whole lot of sense. But IMO, we have seen a significant development in Raman's character and the ishra equation in the last few months and this current track seems to be taking away from that development just for the sake of fitting in Mani's character at this juncture.

Yes many of Raman's taunts are extremely rude and aggressive (and they seem to have been turned up a notch recently just to fit in the current track it seems) but we have seen Ishita parkate in this taunt baazi with Raman multiple times. She has also clearly stated on many occasions that she enjoys this banter between them and also understands that the intention behind the taunt is not vile.

Why are we conveniently ignoring all the wonderful things that Raman has done for Ishita and her family. Why do the tanuts take precedence over all the nice things he has done when judging his care and concern towards her? And if Ishita is truly bothered by his taunts and anger, why does she not bring this up to him as a serious matter. On the contrary, when he tries to apologize for his outburst, she asks him to not apologize and sympathizes with him. If she has the guts to stand up for Ruhi/Shagun/parmeet/"the right thing" against Raman, why does she not have the guts to stand up for herself. IMO, its because she knows that Raman and his taunts are harmless. Raman has shown a lot of respect towards Ishita (especially as their relationship has developed over the last few months). He understands and has verbalized the sacrifices she has made for his family (the license/presidentship track) which tells me that he does value her.

To come to the point, I HATE Mani because his introduction in the story seems to be intentionally and illogically eroding away at the significant progress that Ishita and Raman have made so far.


I honestly don't see too much of a growth in their relationship. In fact I feel they were closer post the Param track, and after the accident track. Since then they have kind of regressed.

Its not quite the taunts, the one liners are okay, but sometimes, the way he talks about her in front of even his parents is wrong. Also despite her doing so much for him, the slightest slip, and he's back yelling at her as we saw after she tried telling him about ShaShok. If you asked him to buy her a gift, he wouldn't know what to get. They have never fully discussed their past and let it air out. A proper love story develops (IMO) as they learn more about each other. I feel that Raman doesn't know much about Ishita at all. He thinks she's pretty, but then he calls her Kachra, which was weird. Also tbh, he hasn't done much except get her license back, and help Amma, which cancels out by the fact that he supported his son in that after. In fact, most of the time, he seems rather indifferent to her. To me personally, it feels just like a friendship between two kids, who fight make up and fight make up. There needed to be that fire, that spark, and I think Mani is that spark to push it past stagnation, and consolidate their relationship as love.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: aishu_divan

Ok just my take on this..I dont have anything against Mani and was very positive about Mani till today's episode..I understand he's here for mending Ishra's relationship..But that doesn't mean that CVs make Raman look like a looser and glorify Mani..It sounds very wierd, because he is a character who is here to play cupid..Also, in the on-loc video, I see that Mani is telling Raman that gusse se sab kuch solve nahi hota..But isn't this the same Raman that Ishita likes..She fell in love with the gussawala Raman..She herself accepted the fact that he is short-tempered, but he does care for his family..And Im pretty sure she loves him the way he is..So I do not understand what Mani is trying to prove by being all goody goody..They could have dealt with the realization track in a much better way if that was the reason why they introduced Mani..Anyways I respect your opinion dear, but there are few things I feel could have been handled differently..


I didn't feel like Raman was a loser at all tbh. I think Mani just has a greater physical presence. But Raman hasn't deviated from his character. He has always been an angry young man, and he continues to be it. Unfortunately when you see place a white cloth against black, you can see the tiny offwhite flecks more clearly. Its just that against Mani's goodness, Raman's flaws are amplified. To me he is still the same RKB who raises hell at everything.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gkathria

I'm totally with you! besides marriage is a journey of two people, so there's nothing wrong in Raman realizing that he has to treat his wife better. Loving someone in his mind only isn't enough.
Besides Mani is just doing his duty as Ishu's best friend. I would have done the same for my best friend so why is it a problem all of a sudden. I'm really glad that their finally showing that bahu's should be treated as normal human beings too and not be expected to be completely devoid of any flaws.


@Bold, yes, girls can have guy best friends who are just their friends and nothing more. Not everyone has ill will and bad intentions. And yes you cannot go all your life saying I love this person, but treat them indifferently, then blame another person for coming and whisking them away. Mutual understanding is lacking.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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There's two ways to show that you're great- one, be great and two, show your opponent down. People in this forum are batting for Raman and there's nothing much to show him great so they are showing Mani down with all the hatred. From what we've seen so far of Mani, there's no logical reason for anyone to hate him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mnr123


@bold Yes Ishita as a woman her insecurity is right in her place, but its not that Raman has always ignored Ishita and ran after Shagun only. Unfortunately SHagun is Raman's ex and also Raman has to be in touch with his child whether Ishita likes it or not. He has been shown as yelling Shagun but never yelled at Adi coz Adi had clearly said in the court that dad hits me n Raman had restraining orders against that. So if Raman yells at Adi, Raman thinks he might not be able to even see his child.

N if I remember even Ishita empathizes with Shagun n also helped her in her worst phases like drunk incident she got her home and making Mihir accept her as his sister.

Having said all this I agree that Raman shud control his anger n rude behavior. Which Ishita is surely helping him with (i.e. we don't need Mani here). It is true that only a sacrificing n understanding kind of person like ishita can handle Raman. But still I find it annoying that a different Man is pitted against him to show him how to be sensitive towards his wife when Raman was many a times sensitive towards Ishita in the past.

@red Raman mostly knew that he was wrong despite his ego,

When during Param track he did not support her when she was being bashed by his family members, he later on proved how cheapskate Permeet is n also apologized n said Sorry to Ishita n got her back home.

during Accident track he was hiding things from ishita he knew he was doing it wrong for saving his child a punishment. But he ultimately came to very same Ishita and apologized and also asked her to be his strength.

When recently he in his angry outburst said to Ishita tumhe ghar se nikal dunga after Shagun n Ashok drama. He apologized again that I was too insensitive to u n she sympathized with him saying its ok don't be sorry n all coz I knew that u really didn't mean it.

Well I can argue with this whole night 😆In my opinion both ISHRA are right n wrong in their ways n that is the reason I love them equally.

my only grudge is CV's shudnt have got mani factor in Ishra story, they were beautiful otherwise. 😳 Yes ishita's past shud be dealt with but the most imp factor of her past is her inability to conceive n her hurt of not being a perfect woman, this cud have been shown with the medical complications n Raman trying to be more sensitive towards her after realizing what all pain she suffered, no need to get Mani into the picture 😊




It is convoluted, but I just think Raman always went on crying about Shagun, at least if not subbu we got a Mani. Ishita was kind of beginning to look a little desp. for Raman (nothing wrong) but I feel like Raman was just blah towards her. Metal had struck metal and sparks were flying, I just feel Mani is the extra oxygen needed to turn those sparks into a full fledged fire.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: .ProperPatola.

Oh yeah for sure...Hell, i haven't seen so much hate towards the other negative characters we've had...I guess because they someway or the other have played cupid for Ishra at times. Whereas, Mani is clearly a positive character and the outcome of his involvement will take some time to appear i.e. Improvement in Ishra's relation and Raman's realisation. We have to wait and then react...making such strong judgements so early is what i don't like


I am so glad to see like- minded members here, otherwise the other thread had me in shock at the reactions.


That is why I made this post. I was a little taken aback by some of the reactions to Mani. I was like there has got to be people who see him in the same light as I. I love jealousy tracks. I guess biased female viewers will hoist the Raman flag till the ship sinks, but I am a sucker for more intricate dynamics in a story, and that only comes with more layers. Mani is one such layer.

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