Love & Parenthood - IshRa - Page 3

Originally posted by: ZenerDiode

mind blowing post.
well done anni for pointing towards " junoon". i feel it is indicating junoon of love,like if you ll love some one you will try your level best and you will go beyond your limits to support,to help, to co ordinate and to cheer up that person and make his life like divine. like she went to make chicken i.e. just example or she thinks that the level raman loves his children it s actual junoon ( take in positive way) and that level should be in their mutual relation!!

Hey Zene thank you and junoon is actually so many things isnt it? Junoon to me mostly defines an all encompassing love, one which can make or break you. I remember first using it for the kind of love Heathcliff and Cathy have in Wuthering Heights, because their love was in a way so very ardent and zealous it destroyed everyone around them, well I am not saying its the same for IshRa 😆 but you get my drift - their first loves - Subu and Shagun would have nothing on Ishita and Raman respectively once these two get together, and I cant wait for that 😳 Like the show says its a mature love story - her first love was that of a naive girl and his of a nerdy, shy guy who was barely a man in a way - now they are not in that stage of life anymore in any which way 😳

one more thing in saturday episode i noticed was your analysis in sync with friday episode you had done. it slipped from my mind that day after watching episode that was struck me in first place. here now replying . yes, you had said

she married him for that. What she said was the truth over here, but whats the most important is she said she is now responsible for Adi and Raman too - something which he never had before. In his previous marriage we have seen how Raman was the one always shown as being the caregiver, caretaker - but he was never looked after, in this one conversation he heard something that he was living these days, that is isn't alone, he is being looked after, someone considers him as important enough too.

this came again in my mind when raman said " will you let me go alone for blood test?" that showed he was considering her as care taker of him .

yep he is now drawn to her and is finding comfort in the fact she is there for him, relishing it but since he still cant say things as easily he hides behind excuses - like he did when he spoke of Ruhi, but he wants her with him now- whenever he has to face a fear of his and can allow only her to witness his tears, cos he knows she would neither sympathize with him nor make fun of him, she would simply be there with her quiet support 😳

yes he insults her,adi goes more far from him,but if he stops insulting her,shagun can't make reason to even adi that your father is insulting me, the day shagun did suicide attempt, raman was hurt to see adi facing all his kid is going through such things in little age, that is horrible in my view too . ishita tried to put full stop in this by making him soft towards shagun, adi will not go through again this situation and raman will also not hurt and disturbed to see him vulnerable as father . i really appreciate ishita s step to make raman more stable and happy.

yep the day Shagun did that lame thing I was bummed to see that brat again since the kid cant act 😆 but felt sorry for the character, imagine losing the only parent you have its terrifying. Cos for Adi Shagun is his only family, yes he calls Ashok dad - but I have yet to see them bond and the precap for tonight made it evident the boy misses his father so very much. So if Raman wants to win his son' heart he has to make him realize his love and the fact he isnt the bad man his mother paints him to be which is possible now - with this respect Shagun policy

in deep thoughts some where i feel ishita was feeling she was also responsible for adi s situation in suicide trauma. may be may be because in root simi wanted ishita to cry,she permitted shagun to irk raman,raman got irked, he insulted shagun and shagun did suicide that affected adi in chain.so may be ishita thought to break this chain by making raman respecting shagun. just my doubt. i am not sure about it.

hmm interesting POV, but I dont think she feels that else she wouldnt have gave that comeback to Shagun in the parlor the other day, she now sees the woman she is and her games, and somehow she is a better player than Raman when it comes to handling Shagun... would anyone looking at them in the parlor have assumed what is happening? She gave good to Shagun and no one even had a whiff contrary to Raman' public dramas😉😆😆

and through bala also ishita is only factor who will bring close raman and adi😉 am really excited and looking forward for this track.

oh me too not to mention the fact I hope Bala teaches him some acting too LOL and Bala-Vandu track has me on my toes as well

yes you said it right, raman will fall for adi and ruhi s mom (i.e. ishita) with all junoon 😉

thanks Zene 😊

Originally posted by: Vedika211

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Hi. 😊

Thanks so much for your post. I agree with your analysis. In fact, I wanted to post something along similar lines called "what changed for Raman ".

Ishita and Raman have had touching and meaningful conversations in the past too, but this one, on the bench, really stood out for me. When Ishita said that it is bad that you forgot about Adi and worse that I did not even know about this date, something changed in the conversation. She became Adi's mother also, not just Ruhi's. A stepmother, yes, but a mother nonetheless. When she spoke of their co-ordinsting in matters related to Adi, Raman looked away and then wiped a tear from his eye. After that, he just couldn't look at her any more. What she said and did far surpassed, I think anything that he had ever expected from her. I think it changed the nature of their relationship in that he would still be the same (loving her parents, teasing her eye.) even if she were only to be the best mother for Ruhi. By taking on Adi as her responsibility, as their responsibility together, she is pushing not just get own comfort zone but making him push his too.

Originally posted by: rev4eva

Loved the perspective you saw the whole convo between Ishra. How the parenthood brought together people who couldn't stand each other because of their maternal/paternal instinct. The show emphasis not only on motherhood but also the unexplored fatherhood.

Loved the line to the core.. Hats off 👏

It won't be a man falling in love with his wife, rather it would be Ruhi and Aditya' father who would fall irrevocably in love with the woman who is being their mother in the truest sense of the term.

Originally posted by: krikumar.91

Too good yaar... Amazing... You have written very well...

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Hi Vedika beautiful post

@bold - exactly! When she started with Raman forgetting the date, he had this angry look for a moment on his face, he expected some lecture, some taunt something similar to Shagun' rebuke, he never expected support and such a selfless gesture from her and in a matter of moments, she had the man humbled, awed and moved beyond words - in short she won over him all over again.

@bold - yep, she drew him out of his shell, notice how he had to laugh when he saw she is persisting he promise her by holding her hand and not just a verbal okay... he was sold and bowled over then, Like he said she amazes him, her actions made him ask her what is she, because he doesnt understand this woman and her selfless love - her giving nature. When Shagun cheated on him he assumed all women are alike and met more like her further solidifying his belief in this idea of his and here is a woman who is challenging him in every sphere making him eat the humble pie and for the life of him, he cant get angry or upset over the fact he is being proven wrong... rather it amazes him it is happening and he cant believe it still. He wanted this - to be proven wrong so very much, but never realized what it would entail or how it would eventually affect him when it happens for sure.

Originally posted by: pomegranate

Fridays episode was very bittersweet because of the much awaited heartfelt conversation between ishra. Bitter because ishita had to listen in on shagun and raman's conversation, and because that epi proved that raman will always have a connection with his ex due to adi. I must admit, that was a bitter pill to swallow.

Hey Zara I agree the epi was bittersweet for the exact same reasons you stated but then sometimes the best things in life are, arent they or they eventually become so, thats my belief - life balances out a lot of things and sometimes thats the way we know, we cant have it all. 😳 and yes the kids always connect their parents, Shagun can never be completely obliterated from Raman' life its a given. In fact looking at Ruhi all he could do was rem her initially now that is gone though thankfully.

one thing I wonder is, are ishita and raman considering the possibility of an intimate relationship? her infertility was at the center of the emotionally charged conversation, so I didn't think either of them were thinking about it but now I'm rethinking that. I was going through

perhaps on a subconscious level they are. They are healthy attractive people in their prime and of course are attracted to each other though they would tamp it down. Before they had so many misgivings about each other but living under one roof now, being with each other day in and out, handling problems big and small they are learning each other better, so the attraction is amplifying cos its not being limited to the physical attributes alone not to mention they have this rapport now - one where they are matched even intellectually, which is always another turn on 😳

the comments the other day, and someone said creatives should introduce consummation in order to keep up with the mature theme. it makes in a way, raman and ishita are both mature, they are married and if not love, then they have respect, understanding, admiration and attraction. is that not enough for a physical relationship?

I think its too early to consummate personally, this cannot be handled in a friends with benefits kinda way, not with so many layers to their relationship, nor with the no strings attached policy. These people have a lot of healing to do emotionally, if they get involved sexually now, they may not be able to tackle the new complexities that arise when feelings do come in or even if they do it would be messy. Physical love is huge but understanding has its own standing and if a relationship has to be long-term it should have its basis in understanding, respect and friendship and not just sex as per me.

Originally posted by: cool_aparna

Glad u made this post...😃

I liked the most the way you reasoned Raman's tears👍🏼...KP was so superb in emoting so well...👏

Also the way you compared Subbu's reason of nt marrying Ishita with the result of Raman's broken marriage...very ironic...kinda eye opener ...very well put👏

Also very well agree that they didn't talk further abt Ishu's infertitlity as u replied to some here she still has her wall around her regarding her issues...and its better things are done with time...they are progressing gradually...so everything will have its own right time to talk...😳

Thnx for this post...

Originally posted by: Autumn.

Awesome and most heart touching post ever read on Ishra. Simply Beautiful! Thanks for sharing your thoughts EkPaheli