Where is the feminism?! - Page 2

I wonder NO ONE pointed that out / advised ...to trashmean even once. none of the sandhus... or even tejo... or mami

... that stay away from that fattu for your good.... what do you think of him????

- He married your sister in hours after you asked for time & left altar (did not think of love at the time)....

- he cheated his wife with her own sister....

would he be faithful to you all life???

are you sure... he would not run behind someone else once you marry him??

Originally posted by: CAD_NG

I agree feminism is about choice but there is a concept in feminism called restricted choice. If you have been fed your entire life that you should take care of your family and make sacrifices for others (as Tejo has), then what will she naturally be inclined to do here? And it is a show playing on television, where they would redeem Fateh. So what happens then? The message is once again that woman should just forgive. What we see on television does play into the larger narrative & structural makeup that woman should just forgive and move on with their partner.

The fact she wants to catfight Jasmine to reveal her true face makes no sense to me - that also plays into the age old trope of women knocking each other down, instead of having strength to just let it go.

Tejo has on multiple occasions says "tumne mujhe isliye choda," what does that imply - still internal competition between two FL. Why not turn around and say "yo if he can betray his wife, he will leave you too."

And do no apologize, it is a constructive back and forth :)

I would consider Fateh and his redemption when it happens, it hasn't happened yet and I really hope this goes silsila way and there is no redemption. Cheating, heartbreak, lies, manipulations, they leave a far deeper wound that people associate with it when they read or see stories, and those wounds don't always completely heal. All you can do is find ways of owning up to your scars and making peace with them. And that is what I see Tejo doing. Her way of making peace is ruining them to the level they did to her, and that is actually healthier than what Jasmine is doing since she is still manipulating and lying while Tejo is just retorting. She never wanted this fight, in fact she happily walked away and she was broken with no clue what next. Jasmine started the fight, she kept insulting Tejo instead of now shutting up since she was getting everything she wanted, and Tejo found her what next. A fight to ruin the ones who think they can continue insulting her, now more openly since hiding isn't needed.

I understand your restrictive choice theory, but for me, it is still choice. We are all prisoners of our birth, it defines us somewhere whether we like it or not. I have also been bought up with the thought process that family is most important and at times you need to sacrifice for the ones you love, and I have sacrificed my dreams and career for mine multiple times, and I can say this today that I have no regrets. When I see my family happy, I know I made the right choices for the collective even if they set me back in life. It is sort of like marriage, some sacrifices will always come, it just depends till where you conscience permits you without ruining you. Tejo isn't ruined , she is just broken and this is giving her something to do right now. She needs to burn this hatred out because she has been broken in the worst manner. Her sister! I don't think there is anyone who wishes to be Tejo right now. Husband, best friend, in-laws, they all come later in life and came with a marriage, love, arranged, sacrifice doesn't matter here, her sister was the one she had since her birth and that has to be the deepest wound, which is why she is lashing out the most on her. Also, when it comes to sacrifices, Tejo earlier also sacrificed her self respect multiple times for Jasmine and even Fateh, she needs to learn that while some sacrifices are needed, not everyone in her life is worth sacrificing for.

Yes, she is comparing Jasmine and herself, because right now, that is the pain she has. Her husband left her for her sister, the sister who constantly used to say earlier also how she is the more pretty one, more popular one, has more friends while Tejo only has Jasmine. Any wife, even Mouli did in silsila, will compare herself to the mistress and wonder where it all went wrong, we all do that when we even find out our ex is dating someone, here he wasn't even the ex. Tejo is just being vocal about it because she is so disgusted at her sister and husband. Had this been a stranger, she doesn't seem like someone who will do it this openly, but here her disgust is very valid and very visible.

Originally posted by: A4Anjie

I wonder NO ONE pointed that out / advised ...to trashmean even once. none of the sandhus... or even tejo... or mami

... that stay away from that fattu for your good.... what do you think of him????

- He married your sister in hours after you asked for time & left altar (did not think of love at the time)....

- he cheated his wife with her own sister....

would he be faithful to you all life???

are you sure... he would not run behind someone else once you marry him??

It doesn't really look like any of them care anymore about her. She has created so much disgust for herself that nobody wants to think of her well being or future, so they don't care what happens to her.

Again, like I said, Jasmine is being considered the worse of the two because she is Tejo's real sister. That betrayal does cut deeper because Fateh came some months ago while Jasmine and Tejo have been sisters since birth. Fateh's character can be called out as horrible in public but Jasmine? How does anyone come to terms with a sister doing to this to another? And how can anyone care about Jasmine post it? Even Jasfa fans want Jasmine to be positive because they know that this is disgusting, they just have a hard time admitting it because like Jasmine, end justifies the means and Tejo is the betrayer for putting her father's life and death before her sister's immaturity.

Originally posted by: Bluekohl

Ok but was this show supposed to be feminist ever? Is tejo a feminist? Lol no. There's the fact that in both households every character plays the expected gender norms. Why is it that at both houses women are the one who always cook? Or clean? Just doing a job doesn't make you feminist. There are several incidents in virk household where she has to face typical nautanki which DIL face, but she stays silent. Even in her job issue, fateh advocated for her, she didn't. I like her a lot, but she's not a feminist.

Also if you're looking for feminism in itv, my guess from my limited experience, you're gonna irritate yourself.

Tejo is no more a feminist than Jasmine is a Rhodes Scholar . 🤣
ITV will never have a feminist FL because the industry still propagates the narrative that a woman is nothing without a man.

I like Tejo because she has convictions and a strength you don’t see often in ITV. We might not agree with her approach but at least she’s doing something.

Originally posted by: Lipstickqueen

Tejo is no more a feminist than Jasmine is a Rhodes Scholar . 🤣
ITV will never have a feminist FL because the industry still propagates the narrative that a woman is nothing without a man.

I like Tejo because she has convictions and a strength you don’t see often in ITV. We might not agree with her approach but at least she’s doing something.

A feminist in itv, please do tell when did this happen 🤣🤣

Balaji University course101 thought me there's no such thing since she started airing all

her K shows. There might be a strong bahu, after many years of torture but feminist if you hold

your breath you may start thinking like Jaso, believing you're smart 🤣

Originally posted by: pyar-ishk

A feminist in itv, please do tell when did this happen 🤣🤣

Balaji University course101 thought me there's no such thing since she started airing all

her K shows. There might be a strong bahu, after many years of torture but feminist if you hold

your breath you may start thinking like Jaso, believing you're smart 🤣

Baki I have never come across anyother fl who is feminist.

Originally posted by: pyar-ishk

A feminist in itv, please do tell when did this happen 🤣🤣

Balaji University course101 thought me there's no such thing since she started airing all

her K shows. There might be a strong bahu, after many years of torture but feminist if you hold

your breath you may start thinking like Jaso, believing you're smart 🤣

Actually I saw a show called Tamanna on Star Plus. Fairly short by ITV standards 100-200 epis but the FL was good and the ending was also good. It may have had some weird patches but the overall narrative was great.

Originally posted by: shirin04

the only person who comes to my mind is bondita from barrister babu. Post leap hasn't disappointed me yet. Plus ml is a feminist too. ❤

Baki I have never come across anyother fl who is feminist.

I haven't watched since the leap, but yeah I have to say Anirudh, do fight for human rights

and women rights

Originally posted by: pyar-ishk

I haven't watched since the leap, but yeah I have to say Anirudh, do fight for human rights

and women rights

Originally posted by: CAD_NG

I am growing progressively more upset with this show. One, the same old trope - family member gets sick and FL is forced to stay in the house. But what message is really being propagated here?

The age old message: women are culture bearers and therefore are responsible of keeping families together and acting at all time in a pious manner. Even when their husbands are adulterous, and having an affair with their own family members.

This show is so beyond gross, and I was aghast to see a recent poll in which people want to see a Fateh redemption, but silly me, thinking this show would be anything but different. Redeeming Fateh still propagates that women should forgive adulterous men, live with the trauma and shame of being cheated on [but this is a hindi show so of course why explore the psychological implications that come after a spouse has been adulterous].

Even this so called loving Sandhu family - they say they will not let their divorce happen, taking away agency from the couple, but especially a woman (Tejo) to make decisions about her own life. Forcing them to do pooja together, all the in the name of Dadiji wanting her wish fulfilled but ignoring the fact that Tejo must be in immense pain.

They only want Tejo to forgive him for their izzat, but want her to stand by him despite all his wrongdoings - once again, remain a pious wife but not a happy one.

Furthermore, why does Tejo want to expose Jasmine's true face to the family? So what...you want that man back who literally could care less about you? Use the mouse incident as an excuse to leave the house.

I am truly done with this show. Rant over.

Well they are showing three generations in show. Showing rightly even though we are in 21 st century women still not able to get over bad relationship easily. Here Tejo wanted to take decision like today's girl but still can't rid of her roots. Still pushing herself to break her shackles. She denies to give divorce because she wanted to make a point to jesmine you can't ruin my life the way you want that's why she wants to show feteh her real face. So he will reget he lost tejo for fake girl like jesmine. She wanted to take revenge.