Why Is Toshu Wrong Here? - Page 4

Originally posted by: QNefertiti

Anupamaa can open a dance academy in her father in law'a property, live on her father in law's property when father in law has many kids to look after why can't Toshu take help from his mother in law when his wife is an heiress. At the end of the day everything owned by Rakhi will be inherited by Kinjal and Toshu. Anupamaa is a hypocrite 🙄

THIS! 👏

And not to mention Anu is living in her FIL's house and using his property for her dance classes after divorcing his son...

Toshu is still happily married to Kinjal at least!

Originally posted by: Anjalika01

THIS! 👏

And not to mention Anu is living in her FIL's house and using his property for her dance classes after divorcing his son...

Toshu is still happily married to Kinjal at least!

Anupama has earned it so she is getting respect. On the other hand toshu is being served on platter. Secondly there is something called self respect. The person who insults his family members at every given opportunity she can insult toshu also in future. On the other hand Anupama is daughter of vanraj s father she has earned it with devotion and service to family.

Lastly about ur main topic that how is toshu wrong ? Toshu is wrong because he is being influenced by using his greedy nature. He never had problems before. All he wants to live in penthouse.😆 

Originally posted by: Anjalika01

THIS! 👏

And not to mention Anu is living in her FIL's house and using his property for her dance classes after divorcing his son...

Toshu is still happily married to Kinjal at least!

Rakhi is offering penthouse is not an issue . Kinjal is only daughter and it’s crystal clear she is heiress so penthouse, offices anything rakhi can give to her daughter and son in law and there should not be any gender biased actions. If women can take favours from in laws then men can also take the same. 

Issue is rakhi wants her daughter to shift to penthouse but her daughter is rejecting her wish . In this mother-daughter wish war , what is the logic in creating havoc in shah household?? 

Either rakhi accepts her daughter’s wish or kinjal accepts her mother’s wish. Here neither rakhi is ready to accept her daughter’s wish nor kinjal is ready to accept her mother’s wish . 

What is the logic in dragging entire household if your daughter is not full filling your and her husband’s wish? 
 
Either kinjal apni mummy ko thik kare or shift Ho jaye. Kab tak kinjal -toshu same page par nahi ayege?! Kabhi same page par aane ki capability nahi hai toh divorce le lo. 

Jab  tak kinjal shift nahi hogi , rakhi aise he daily kinjal ke sasural ja kar apna gussa nikalegi so it’s better for kinjal ki woh apni mom ki wish ko pura kare and separate Ho jaye. Agar kinjal uski mom ki wish ko pura nahi karna chahti hai toh ek bar mai rakhi/toshu ko ultimatum de kar matter close kare.

Ajib baat hai ghar mai inte log rehte hai but koi kinjal ko strictly bol nahi raha hai ki behen kinjal tum apni mom ki wish Puri karo and separate Ho jao otherwise daily tumhari mom tumhara gussa yaha aa kar utaregi🤢

Originally posted by: Rein123

Thank you so much for posting this, and I agree with every word you've written down here. I am saying the same thing, there is nothing wrong if Paritosh wants to move out of that chaotic household which close to becoming a hell as rightly described by Rakhi Dave. I don't why Kinjal wants to stick around in a place like that when it's clearly not healthy for her marriage unless ofcourse she doesn't really care but I am being told that Paritosh and Rakhi are just plain evil and selfish for wanting this, like how exactly? And is Kinjal freaking blind? She knows her mother is right in every sense about the environment she lives in, there is nothing healthy or good about living under a roof like and to top it all she is literally forcing Paritosh to do the same and subjecting him to that sort of mental torture. It's not like she is being asked to cutt off ties with her in laws, just being asked to move out of the house, tomorrow she will have kids is that the kind of environment she wants to raise them in?? 

Feels so good to see I'm not alone in seeing things this way!

So far Kinjal has been shown as smart/sensible, and I can't see why anyone like that would want to stay in a house like this long term.

Also, like you correctly pointed out, it's not like they're cutting off totally- Toshu said clearly that they'll keep visiting every other weekend, so what exactly is the problem here?

Are CVs trying to say that a "good girl" always wants to stay in joint family no matter how messy/unhealthy things get?

Maybe that's the reason why Anu is shown to still be hanging around here even after divorce and second marriage of her ex-husband/"best friend" .

What a sick mix of modern and traditional thought overall!

Originally posted by: janecastle

Every time writers run out of ideas, they make Rakhi, Toshu and Pakhi negative. This has been going on forever. Character arc, consistency and all doesn't matter to these people. I have given up hope that they will show anything sensible in this show anymore.

This is true tbh.

All three of these characters (Rakhi, Toshu, Pankhi) were previously shown to have improved a lot (which was refreshing to see, and made more sense considering the circumstances and positions of said characters), but now they have decided to make all of them ultra negative, and make Vanraj and Baa almost totally positive instead, which frankly doesn't even make any sense.

If Vanraj is so good, and easy to be "friends" with why did Anu have to divorce him and make him marry Kavya in the first place?

Why couldn't these two confused individuals could have just learned to get on with each other whilst being married like normal people?

Originally posted by: Shiner

Anupama has earned it so she is getting respect. On the other hand toshu is being served on platter. Secondly there is something called self respect. The person who insults his family members at every given opportunity she can insult toshu also in future. On the other hand Anupama is daughter of vanraj s father she has earned it with devotion and service to family.

Lastly about ur main topic that how is toshu wrong ? Toshu is wrong because he is being influenced by using his greedy nature. He never had problems before. All he wants to live in penthouse.😆 

I don't think Anu is any great example of self respect herself tbh.

Baa and Vanraj used to insult her at every given opportunity till recently (and jibes about her family's economic status were actually often a part of this come to think of it). And now Vanraj has even gotten divorced from her and married another woman, who never misses an opportunity to insult Anu herself either.

Why is Anu tolerating all insults, mistreatment (from not only her then husband and MIL, but also now ex-husband's new wife ffs) and then taking property after that glorified as an ideal, but Toshu doing the same to a much lesser extent, and without the issue of divorce plus second marriage is seen as wrong/shameful?

Just because Anu is a woman, and Toshu is a man?

Also I do accept that Toshu has his flaws (and greed is one of them) but to me it's looking like he's certainly a  much more sensible and normal person than both his parents by far.

Originally posted by: sweet_tania

Rakhi is offering penthouse is not an issue . Kinjal is only daughter and it’s crystal clear she is heiress so penthouse, offices anything rakhi can give to her daughter and son in law and there should not be any gender biased actions. If women can take favours from in laws then men can also take the same. 

Issue is rakhi wants her daughter to shift to penthouse but her daughter is rejecting her wish . In this mother-daughter wish war , what is the logic in creating havoc in shah household?? 

Either rakhi accepts her daughter’s wish or kinjal accepts her mother’s wish. Here neither rakhi is ready to accept her daughter’s wish nor kinjal is ready to accept her mother’s wish . 

What is the logic in dragging entire household if your daughter is not full filling your and her husband’s wish? 
 
Either kinjal apni mummy ko thik kare or shift Ho jaye. Kab tak kinjal -toshu same page par nahi ayege?! Kabhi same page par aane ki capability nahi hai toh divorce le lo. 

Jab  tak kinjal shift nahi hogi , rakhi aise he daily kinjal ke sasural ja kar apna gussa nikalegi so it’s better for kinjal ki woh apni mom ki wish ko pura kare and separate Ho jaye. Agar kinjal uski mom ki wish ko pura nahi karna chahti hai toh ek bar mai rakhi/toshu ko ultimatum de kar matter close kare.

Ajib baat hai ghar mai inte log rehte hai but koi kinjal ko strictly bol nahi raha hai ki behen kinjal tum apni mom ki wish Puri karo and separate Ho jao otherwise daily tumhari mom tumhara gussa yaha aa kar utaregi🤢

Like I said before, why Kinjal still wants to stay in this circus is beyond me!

Originally posted by: surabhi01

I Dont know from where it is conclusion draw that bahu ko property milni chahiye aur damad ko nahin 

Yahan pur kisi ne gender ki baat nahin ki 

Yahan pur yeh baat ho rahi hai ki mother in law se property milne pur  toshu jaise arrogant behave kar raha hai woh galat hai 

Yeh toshu jitna rudely baat karta hai aur yeh samjhata hai ki yeh shah family to khuch aata nahin hai 

Then i want to ask toshu if  shah family Dont anything to tumne kausa apne hard work se paise kamane se ghar khareda hai 

Yeh toshu to mother in law se gift milne kis baat ka ghamand dikha raha hai shah family ko 

Bapuji ne apne paise se 2 kamre ka  makaan liya tha but yeh toshu kis baat ka ghamand dikha raha hai 

Yeh toshu apne aapko itna kaabil samhjhata hai  to khud hard work karne ek ek paise jod ke ghar khareeden 

But yahan to toshu to jabardasti ki akad dikha raha hai 

Toshu khoob jaata kur rahe apni mother in law ke diye hue ghar mein v. But bekaar ki akad na dikhaye aur na  blame kare kyonki toshu  bhi khud bhi jhagda karta aaya, hai  . He cannot put all blame  on shah family  . Toshu ne bhi galtiyaan ki hai but ghar mein problem hoti hai toh toshu ne saara blame shah family daal diya aur aapne aap ko victim prroove kiya which is totally wrong 

Toshu remember only negative thing. But toshu yeh bhool gaya ki jub toshu ki shaadi  ki kinjal se nahin ho paa rahi thi aur jub toshu depress mein chala jaa raha tha aur ajeeb ajeeb harkat kar raha tha  anupama aur samar ne kaise morally support kiya tha. Toshu ko positive baat kyon nahin yaad hai 

Btw we also Dont wanted anupama toh accept property of bapuji. We sincerly want anupama note live in shah house and shoulder go to her mayka aur live in rent house but cvs didi note listen us

Another thing if anybody support anupama  shoulder get property from ex in law not because she was daughter in law of shah but anupama deserve property from shah because she really deserve it because anupama gave her whole life to shah and sacrifice her own  . Yahan pur damad bahu ko se lena dena hai hi nahin 

Now kavya is daughter in law of shah but no body is saying kavya deserve to get property from shah kyonki kavya ne aisa khuch kiya hai hi nahin hai jo woh property deserve kare 

But since it was self acquired property of bapuji ki choice woh kisi ko bhi property dein

The gender issue has unfortunately become a part of the discussion for no reason other than the glaring double standards shown in this serial (which simultaneously claims to be all about women empowerment, weirdly enough).

Here, Anupama (who, btw is practically deified by the makers, and the idea that she could ever be wrong about anything- however small- in any way is a territory they refuse to explore) is living in her father in law's (or should I say ex-father in law's?) house, and using his property for her dance academy even after she divorced his son, and the son remarried and brought his new wife to the same house with him. 

On the other hand, Toshu wants to leave this toxic, dysfunctional household to go and live in the apartment gifted to him by his CURRENT mother in law, and continue visiting every other weekend (so it's not like he is completely cutting off his extended family/ignoring his responsibilities towards them), and he is portrayed as doing something wrong for the same?

Also I know none of us wanted Anu to stay back there, that's why I'm trying to challenge the CVs' logic here, not any individual members here on the forum if that makes sense.

did nit Rakhi always wanted to break that marriage between kinjal and toshu ?so she is not going to leave shahs live in peace until she wins or from God she gets her deeds paid .

Originally posted by: kooki07

did nit Rakhi always wanted to break that marriage between kinjal and toshu ?so she is not going to leave shahs live in peace until she wins or from God she gets her deeds paid .

Rakhi is not interested in breaking marriage of her daughter with toshu, all she wants is kinjal shift somewhere else but kinjal is not listening her mother’s wish so her mother daily come to her home to vent out anger.