Originally posted by: bobbiswas
Medha you are too good ... enjoyed your analysis and your way of writing.
You are indeed right that theres loads of ambiguity throughout the epic but still I was not able to understand why they actually showed Krishna Arjuna weak in the war. The same Arjuna during Virat war defeated alone the wholearmy of Bheeshma, Drona, Karna, Duryodhan etc. And also killed Karnas brother. When everyone attacked him together he used Sammohini vana and all wenr senseless except Bheeshma, whom he defeated again. Remember the same Karna was with intact kavach kundal then and all knew this Arjuna with Gandib and the special maya horses. All these without Krishna and an un knowledgeable sarathi Uttar.
During Jayadratha search also, he defeated Karna by breaking his charriot and dhanush etc. Ashwathama saved him by leaving the field with Karna. So why during 1 to 1 fight it was shown Karna fighting better. Day 1 ended with Karna defeating Arjuna and didn't killed him due to Suryasta so that ppl later does not tell Karna killed him by unfair means as Arjuna was better ... 2nd day Karna used Nagashtra. Then again placed a van inside arjuns arm before jumping out to take out charriots wheel. Shalya was there anyway and they all used to keep spared charriots anyway to switch. Even they used to fight without any charriot. Comeon what's more important then? Fight standing in battlefield while Shalya takes out the wheel or use a replacement or you yourself dive to take out the wheel!! Looks like an attempt to show him mahan and Arjuna using unfair means. For the same reason they didn't showed Arjuna using his divine weapons except the vayu vaan for Jayadratha and Brambhashir to counter Ashwathamas.
Except Bhram dand, Arjuna had all divine weapons which no one else had. Why was he fighting with Karna unnecessarily long like he is a hourly paid labor and didn't used Pashupat at the first place to clear off his vow of killing Karna like Bheem did for Dushshana ... Very confusing loose ended epic
Pranipaat.
Prashansa ke liye abhaar ...
@blue sorry. did you not mean day 11? You know sometimes i wonder why people completely forget to mention the fact that Arjuna fought the war since the 1st day till the 18th.
Arjuna had been fighting repeatedly for ten days, and then Karna makes his fresh entry on the 11th day ... and defeats Arjuna. Great.
Yeah right. I wonder why???🥱
I also have doubts about Karna defeating Arjuna? if he did good for him but some people claim that it was Nakula. please clear this doubt of mine. no sarcasm intended.
Karna could defeat Arjuna once in the life time with the use of nagastra? is that right? But Krishna saved Arjuna.
In the same way, Arjuna would have killed Karna had it not been for the Kind and generous Ashwatthama.
Arjuna obtained many godly weapons, he did. But their descriptions do not sound like something beautiful to behold ... as i said, it was a nuclear, those weapons are truly what will destroy this world again if world war three takes place. It is always mentioned that whenever there was even a chance for these weapons to be used, gods came to request themselves not to use them ... for they will leave the ground barren, people infertile, fetuses mutated and what not, destroy the nature and pollute the water and air ...
Those weapons were given to only those people who will not use it for their own personal agendas but for the good of the whole world (aisa krishna ji ke gurudev ne unse kaha tha ... )... not to fulfill bheemas wish or take the revenge for Draupadi being verbally abused ...
is it right that drona refused to give the weapons e.g. brahmastra to Karna because he was envious of arjuna and was too competitive ... so he wnt to Parshuram, lied to him, obtained the weapon, got curesed and was back to the square of one.
Well Arjuna defeated Karna in Draupadis Swaymavar ... he did not have his Gandiva at that time but Karna had his kawach.
The difference between Matsya war and Kurukshetra war.
Absence of Krishna.
Now without the cool dude absent from the war ... you finally get to see the REAL strength and weaknesses of these people.
Kurukshetra war was Krishna playing chess with poor mortals, manipulation at its best ... haye mai mar jawaa ... Krishna being so ruthless and vicious is a sight to behold ...
About how people keep saying that Arjuna could never have killed Bheeshma .. (because he defeated bheeshma already, thank you) ... well Arjuna himself admitted that he cannot kill bhishma without unfair means .. Is that a weakness of Arjuna?
Well Obviously not, you cant exactly kill a man who can only die if he wishes so himself ...
So in the end, Neither Arjuna, Shikhandi or Krishna killed him ... Bheeshma killed himself.
As far as the notion that Arjuna defeated Bheesma only because Bheeshma loved Arjuna too much, is concerned ...
Well Arjuna loved Bheeshma dearly too and would not have used his full strength against him either during the war.
Also about Karna being killed unfairly ...
The morale you get from this incident is " You get what you give"
Abhimanyu was killed unfairly, is the understatement of the ages.
He destryoed the 3/4th of the army while simultaneously fending off all these learned maharathis who were leading wars when he was in his Mommys womb.
Karna was defeated by Abhimanyu once or twice.
Karna attacked him from behind, broke his bow, and also his shield ... drona broke his sword, i think.
Lets Talk about the Irony and the Sadistic but truly beautiful humor of this :-
Abhimanyu died because of a "wheel" formation.
This son of Arjuna's, the weapon that was used by him to fend off the attackers was ..a "wheel"of a broken chariot.
And Karna died while holding on to the "wheel" of his own chariot.
A truly great warrior Karna was, who died because of a wheel.
Some call it unfairness while I call it Karma.It all started from a wheel and ended on a wheel too.
When i had turned thirteen and my father told me about the story of KARNA .
i asked him that why did this man had to be killed like that ...
My Father asked, " go do your own research, you are old enough to do that and tell me ... Did Karna deserved to die fairly? Was his unfair killing really that unfair? What had he done that he deserved to die in a respectful or disrespectful manner?"
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