Stefan is still insecure?

Stefan had no right to make Elena feel guilty and neither had he the right to punch Damon...
He made Elena feel like she owed him an explanation... Why? I thought they were over. Why suddenly does the insecure ex-boyfriend pop up from the ripper douche? Because Damon and Elena kissed? Because she doesn't regret it? Or because he feels stupid for not sucking up to her before he turned on the vengeance mode?

Stefan took Elena's love for granted. He thought that when all this is over she would hop and skip right back into his arms. "You're better than him"?- I don't expect Stefan to encourage anything between DE... but cut your brother some slack. I seriously don't get Stefan's love for Damon.
Coming to the insecurity- Stefan has always been insecure of the fact that Damon rose in Elena's eyes from maniacal killer to someone she considers her friend(who she needs). How'd that happen? Yeah... how did Damon manage to stand his ground against the "perfect boyfriend(x)" and end up stealing a kiss from Elena?
We all know that Damon is capable of selfless love beyond Stefan's reach and Stefan's well aware that Damon's love is very similar to that of Elena's. If she goes too far down that road... Is there a turning back?
Way to defend your brother, Stefan!!!
And all this when "humanity" falls into Stefan's list of choices.

Every episode reminds me why I love Damon. It's because he balances his relationships. Last week on the porch he defended Stefan, knowing how terrified and angry Elena was. Knowing it wasn't what Elena wanted to hear at the time. While he makes room for himself in Elena's heart, he doesn't make desperate attempts to throw out Stefan . As complicated as Damon's life and character is, it's his simplicity of thought that makes him tower above the rest. ❤️

Coming to Elena- As of now I have little sympathy for her. Telling Stefan about the kiss was alright. But explaining herself? uh okay' she clearly needs to rewind a little. Wait. What was it that happened on wickery bridge the other night? Is it already a blur? The last scene between them was perhaps her first step towards forgiving him... or so it looked like. she was already softening up to him. feeling bad for him already, Elena? All I can do is nod my head disapprovingly for a woman who I thought grew stronger not only physically, but mentally and emotionally as well. Clearly her lingering love for Stefan pulls her back, keeps her from being that woman. sad.
Coming to what I liked... I saw a streak of Damon in Elena when she looked for a loop hole in the compulsion and slammed that rifle into Jamie's head. classic.

Hey! Nice post!😊

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hey! Nice post!😊

I agree with you here - maybe not completely but I do. Stefan is insecure and right now he cant blame Damon nor Elena for it. He had a choice and he chose destroying Klaus over Elena -- not wrong in one sense -- but not wrong in other as well. But now that he has chosen Klaus over Elena -- he should not care two hoots about what Elena does or what Damon and Elena do! I mean what is the point!? Wasnt he the one telling Elena in the last episode that she lost him when he left the city with Klaus!? So now he does not want Elena to move on -- which she is really trying hard to not to - he wants her to still remain faithful to him -- now that they are practically over!? (P.S : I dont mean they are not in love now -- but the relationship is over i.e what I am saying)

As for Stefan punching Damon or whatever -- I understand his pain but that was not the right move. Damon and Elena have moved more closer than ever. They understand each other - Damon is there for Elena every time -- and obviously Stefan knew it long before Klaus showed up that Damon was practically in love with Elena -- and Elena too has a soft spot for him. Now what did he think -- that he is leaving with Klaus (totally to save Damon AGREED!) -- wont the two come more close together than they have!? He dint realize that even without trying -- this scenario puts Delena together and as each other's only support (because Stefan is common)!? I mean yeah I get the whole thing -- Brother's girlfriend crap -- but never did Damon force Elena to kiss him -- she could have resisted or slapped him -- but she dint -- so no way is Stefan justified here.

And well -- Stefan -- if he really needs Elena back he needs to realize that Damon was the one desperately trying to bring him back to her -- he was doing everything he could to bring Stefan back -- Stefan chose destroying Klaus over coming back to Elena and starting over -- so practically what right does he have to question Elena or punch Damon!?

And in the end -- the only thing I would like to say -- I dont care who Elena ends up with -- I seriously dont -- She can end up with Stefan or Damon -- I know she loves both -- and love cannot be measured. If you love you just love -- HOWEVER -- the only thing I want is Damon to be happy!! I dont care who will make him happy -- be it Elena or Bonnie or Katherine -- anyone -- but I just want Damon Salvatore to be Happy because if there is anyone in the show who deserves love and happiness it is Damon Salvatore and no one else.

As much as i agree with all of you, i disagree at some points. Despite being a DE fan, i don't quite understand why Stefan is wrong to have reacted the way he did.

I understand he chose to destroy Klaus over Elena but really? Of course he would. After all Klaus did, he had to do what was right. I'll bet you anything if Damon had gone through what Stefan had with Klaus, he would've done the same. But, other than that, Stefan no longer has his humanity if you guys remember? There's a bit that he shows at times but it's very rare and quite difficult if you ask me to get him to show his humanity.

The love Stefan has been hiding from Elena, caused him to feel something upon hearing Elena kissed his brother. It's a natural reaction. Stefan punched Damon probably because he was still trying to cope with the fact that Elena and Damon had kissed and then Damon went and mentioned Elena. Stefan and Damon have always been violent with each other-big deal. The punch therefore was yet again, another natural reaction.

Either way however, neither do i blame DE and neither do i blame Stefan. They were all right if you think about it. None of them were wrong.

Originally posted by: _Team_Damon

Thanks for the reply.

You should know that I'm a huge fan of Damon... I go by _Team_Damon on twitter as well.
The end game is of least importance to me... what matters is the journey that leads up to it. And uptill now the only journey I see culminating into something beautiful, real and epic is Damon and Elena's. As much I want Damon to be happy, I want his character up held.
I feel Katherine has had her opportunity with Damon and she blew it... I love the Kathmon scenes but purely because they're so trivial. They make an awesome bad ass team and even better rivals. And that's it. That's where I draw the line. They were and can never be real... Damon loved her blindly and now the blind folds off. Am glad.
As far as Bonnie goes... I can't see the witch-vampire together. Quite out of character. For both.

Damon's love for Elena is so amazing... he loves her without wanting anything in return. I firmly believe that this is what epic romances are all about. It's easy to love and sacrifice if all of it is equally reciprocated by the recipient. But Damon never got anything in return for his efforts.
Elena inspires raw humanity in Damon. He's evolved into a better person and gradually so.
There have so much in common... they both don't realize. As much as Damon's in-your-face attitude is apparent, there's a deeper side to him. A side he refrains from showing- a loving, caring and vulnerable part of his heart that Katherine smashed to bits. With Elena Damon's not afraid to let that side loose.
I believe that Damon found his true love in Elena... for him to be just happy with any other girl is out of question unless he's using it as a distraction. All for good. And you know what... Damon's happiness lies in her presence, the fact that she cares and her friendship. She has the power to melt him when he's obstinate and angry. Only something as significant as love can sway him... Elena has been able to figure that side of Damon. So I'd like Damon to love Elena only...
Damon's not a broody guilt bag so he'll find a way to cope no matter how bad things are.
😉
Love your conclusion btw...
"if there is anyone in the show who deserves love and happiness it is Damon Salvatore and no one else."

Originally posted by: *Harjot*

As much as i agree with all of you, i disagree at some points. Despite being a DE fan, i don't quite understand why Stefan is wrong to have reacted the way he did.

I understand he chose to destroy Klaus over Elena but really? Of course he would. After all Klaus did, he had to do what was right. I'll bet you anything if Damon had gone through what Stefan had with Klaus, he would've done the same. But, other than that, Stefan no longer has his humanity if you guys remember? There's a bit that he shows at times but it's very rare and quite difficult if you ask me to get him to show his humanity.

The love Stefan has been hiding from Elena, caused him to feel something upon hearing Elena kissed his brother. It's a natural reaction. Stefan punched Damon probably because he was still trying to cope with the fact that Elena and Damon had kissed and then Damon went and mentioned Elena. Stefan and Damon have always been violent with each other-big deal. The punch therefore was yet again, another natural reaction.

Either way however, neither do i blame DE and neither do i blame Stefan. They were all right if you think about it. None of them were wrong.

To feel those emotions is one thing... yes it's naturally upsetting. But to display them in the way Stefan did?... especially when you're not in that position to take such liberties is what I have a problem with. Last week he almost killed Elena in the worst way possible... I don't things it's time to play the jealous ex boyfriend at this point.
Damon knows that there is collateral damage in war... but he would never risk Elena's life justto win it.
I know that Stefan and Elena shared a strong relationship... but lets not forget that it's officially ended. He made Elena feel guilty which is why she went after him and said that she didn't plan for it to happen.
STEFAN'S HUMANITY IS HIS CHOICE... he is not under compulsion any more. We know that he tried hard to fight the compulsion for Elena in 3x05... Don't tell me Elena still can't inspire Stefan to reach back to his humane side.
Damon can be around Elena and love her all he wants if it means he'll protect her even without getting any love or respect in return? Stefan's been away for a while and he knew well that DAMON and Elena persevered to get him back... later help him get his humanity back(3x09). Why is he surprised that she would kiss him? Why does it surprise him that those affections would come out and play one day?
I feel bad for Damon... Damon defended Stefan before Elena last week even after what he did.
That he maybe he's aiming at the greater good- getting rid of Klaus (but his means are wrong).
He reminds her time and again that Stefan is salvageable... and we all know what Stefan says in comparison regarding his brother.
Rewind back to..."I don't deserve you, but my brother does"...
And compare it with ..." you're better than him Elena... you're better than both of us"
I acknowledge Stefan sacrifices for Damon... but that doesn't make Damon indebted to Stefan. He didn't ask for it.
Yes. Stefan and Damon take the liberties to beat each other up... but this time let's think what inspired that punch----> Damon words- "... Is Elena alright" What? is he suppose to be sorry for being in love with the woman who's heart Stefan broke. One time he shows those feelings and he's made to feel guilty? what about the several other times when he's suppressed those strong feelings deep within his heart?
Stefan is acting lame here. It's true. He's wrong to make a show of his humanity is such a way. Elena's love can't bring his humanity back and the one streak of humanity it we saw was inspired buy Delena's kiss? Lamme.

I respect the fact that you're looking from a neutral perspective but from the view of a pure Damon fan... I can say I feel sorry for Damon. That Stefan wouldn't let the fact the he kissed Elena go... and after all that's happened. and that Elena feels she owes him an explanation... urg!!!
Damon is by far way better than these other characters... even with his violent and complicated life. His love is pure and simple. Not showy and ridiculous.

Originally posted by: msainhjaug

I believe that stefan didnt say a word to elena because he knows that elena can move on if she want...

But he punched damon because damon was the one he choose over elena and over his humanity... so he felt betrayed... And i find nothing wrong with that

All 3 were right in there place.

Yes. I acknowledge that Stefan's been doing Damon favours all along. But that was his own choice. Damon didn't ask for it. But Stefan didn't balance his relationship with Elena. He did everything for his brother... but pushed Elena far out of reach.
Why must me feel completely betrayed?... if Damon was as evil as Stefan described him to be in season 1 he would have taken the opportunity and pursued Elena since day one. But he didn't !!
While he tried hard to save his brother... he never risked Elena's life. He put himself in a life threatening situation just so that Stelena could talk for 5 minutes (3x03)... he's done everything possible to reunite them... Stefan knows that!!
Damon balanced his love for Stefan and Elena... We all know that Stefan loves her compulsion or not. But to treat her the way he did was wrong. What does he expect after that? Damon had a weak moment. He was sick of feeling guilty for loving Elena... not for ever trying to pursue her. They'd gotten close. I read an interview of Plec in which she said that Damon gave into that weak moment for which he knew he'd feel guilty but he gave in and said we can get back to life as we know it tomorrow.
rewind--- 3x10--- Damon asked Stefan to stop saving his life... if it was over Elena's happiness.
If Stefan can't do things the smart way ... save Damon, love Elena and think of destroying Klaus... then he should not feel betrayed. He should have seen it coming. Everyone can't play the saint like he used to. sorry. 😳

Originally posted by: HiphopStahKiran

Stefan was right.. he did so much for his brother, chose him over his own girlfriend and what does his brother do? he kisses his girlfriend -_-

Really? Yes.. what did his brother do in return? He never tried to reunite them did he?? He never tried save Stefan? He never tried to kill klaus?
Don't mind my sarcasm... but Damon's done everything in his power to get Stefan back for himself and for Elena. Klaus almost killed him in 3x03... he put out himself out there because he thinks he owes Stefan and Elena. He blames himself.
Despite the fact that Damon's never asked anything of Stefan... never to be saved. He'd prefer to die instead.
Now did Stefan do all that just to make his brother forever indebted to him? Even I don't think so lowly of Stefan. He did it because he loves his brother.
So Stefan can do what he wants and Damon and Elena should sit brooding over him all their lives? He's taken their love for him for granted.

As far as Damon kissing Elena goes... it was not a moment of lust. It was one of affection and support. Damon had already told Elena that Stefan is salvageable, he told her that Stefan screwed them over to save him. He confessed that she was still his brothers girl. He gave in to a weak moment and stole a kiss from the woman he's madly in love with... the woman he's been protecting all along although she was never his to begin with.
I'm mad at Stefan for saying --"You're better than him"
While Damon's out there taking every opportunity to defend his brother. Making Elena realise that Stefan's aiming at destroying Klaus for the greater good. Letting her know that he can still be saved.
And what an amazing brother Stefan is?? He point blank... bluntly told her that Damon doesn't deserve her, and not him(for what he's become now) either... "you're better than him, you're better than the both of us"
"I don't deserve you... but my brother does!!!"--- remember who spoke these selfless lines?

Stefan has always fed Elena with his narrow opinions about Damon. from the start. I can't believe that after everything that's gone down he's still the same.