Swara Vignette - No Hope for Redemption? - Page 2

Created

Last reply

Replies

86

Views

6.2k

Users

17

Likes

216

Frequent Posters

elsanna thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 90 Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 8 years ago
#11
Well... everyone said everything... nothing more to it...šŸ˜† bang on analysis di...šŸ‘

Tani
lucky.m thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 8 years ago
#12
Nynu
I love you bangaram for this . Your words are like soothing balm over the fury I feel for Swara Reading your take made me as better as venting out .. I gave up on her and Cv's on their quest to make Swara an idol of righteousness of being a Adarsh Bahu , Adarsh Beti, Not to forget Adarsh Behna ..they sacrificed one of her most important role of being a good wife.

Her stand , her attitude of living in la la land of I am right at any cost,I cant go wrong irks me core and to an extent I cant name.😔 Its sad to see one half of OTP to fall down to an unrecognizable extent .This is not the Swara I know .. She is beyond redemption.

Please pack my sunny off to an island ..He deserves to live in peace not in midst of Paagal Mental waasi's,

Absolutely Bang on post šŸ‘šŸ‘

Love
Lucky

PS; Do you mind If post this in twitter marking RS and Sharad and Colours and Helly . They need a wakening call.


Edited by lucky.m - 8 years ago
Nynaeve thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#13
Dear Lucky,
Please feel free to tag whomever you think should be done. I am tired of feeling tired of Swara.

love

Nyna

PS: Bogged down with work, will reply at night.
Rumadiv thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 30 Thumbnail Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#14
Surely after finding lakshya as dead swara would blame sanskar and obviously ap will also blame... n it will shatter sanskar a lot n even our fans as they can't see sanskar in pain...

I seriously have a doubt now according to swaragini laksh s dead... n ragini to help her her sis swara tells tat she s ready to move on wit nikil n obviously swara will not believe as she know how ragini s obsessed wit laksh... OK now ragini after mourning for laksh for few months everyone will surely ask her to move n at one she will surely move even though not for herself for swaea she will move.. but my question is will swara go back to sanskar again..??? Or she will move on wit someone else... I know this will not happen as abimanyu aka laksh will return n more drama will be there.. I want to know..


If CVS want trp to increase they should at least show swara having some feeling towards sanskar n start to realise her mistake she did by hurting sanskars feeling...n star giving first priority to her husband then to her sis...

It won't happen as it is SWARAGINI obviously she all support her sis but same should be done wit ragini also giving importance to swara first n then to laksh which will never happen. Swara repent should be wroth but I guess CVS will make swara did s right as according to Indian television all female leading ladies are always true...!!!


Nynaeve thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: StarySKY

Nynu .. šŸ¤—

I totally agree with you .. you said it all
Amazing post of yours .. šŸ‘

Swara .. I tried really hard to understand her , to know how she is thinking and why ?
But I failed .. I just can't get her ..

Swara has always been the difficult one to understand, despite not being a layered character, mostly because she tries to fit everything into the shades of black and white, into the boxes of right and wrong. And her decisions are based on her classifying anything which is not right is definitely wrong, but never the other way around. So because Sanskaar does now do what her idea of right is he is wrong. Life does not work that way, as I wrote in Litost, usually there are different levels of right

I am not saying Sanskar is right but Swara is more wrong .. And I can't feel sympathy for her because whatever he is doing - as it seems to me somehow - she desarve it , all of it ..Sanskar just started it but Swara is the who finished it ..

True that, I agree Sanskaar was not right when he said he would break up with her, but he apologised and begged for another chance, but Swara is...and if she continues, she would really finish them off.

Swara as always is the perfect daughter , perfect sister , perfect daughter-in-law , perfect sister-in-law .. but never ever been the perfect wife or perfect lover .. ( I can't say she didn't love Sanskar or not loving him now , but ... )

I kind of feel that Swara still didn't forget what Sanskar did to her in the past ( i.e his revenge ) even if it is not intentionally but like by her subconscious .. There is always a trust issue from her side ..
Ragini kidnapping , Kavita .. this are before their marriage , the real one .. But after that though as they are husband and wife they should never be hiding things from each other but she always do that and land in a big trouble .. Rajat truth , when she came to know about her brother , when she come to know about the blackmailer , the truth about Adrash and the last but not the least her deal with Ragini .. She do this every time hiding things from him and he always there for her saving her every time ..
It felt like she doesn't trust him enough to share everything with him ..

I agree with you when you say she is the perfect everything, but not the daughter in law - she cannot be one if she is not a wife, it is ironic, right when DP says she is the daughter of their house?
I think Swara has not forgotten about Sanskaar, too. She is so quick to doubt him and does not waste any time pronouncing him guilty. And for one who would never like Sanskaar not telling her things upfront, she always hides facts and her plans from him. Always, and gets upset when he treats that as a lack of trust in him. She certainly is one confused soul.

What did Sanskar do to desarve all this from her ? How she turned to this cold hearted ? Why all this anger ? Why all this blame ?

She has the right to be angry on Sanskar for what he said about breaking their relationship .. For a week Ok acceptable , but For 6 months .. really ?!! Why this blame for Laksh disappearance ?!
Laksh is a grown man and can made his own choices .. ( well hello Sanskar is elder just by 6 months ) No one was blaming him till she said it .. Ragini didn't and so did Annapurna ( I think she blamed Sanskar after what Swara said .. well Swara do and say what is right .. )


Even if we agree that Laksh disappeared because of Sanskaar and Swara is right to be upset for Sanskaar is the reason for Ragini's pain, she should be feeling sad for being away from him, seeing him deteriorate to a guy who needs alcohol to make it though the night.
And yes, surprisingly Ragini has not blamed Sanskaar even once, she would know that Laksh left for his own impulsive reasons rather than because he was scared off by Sanskaar. But when has Madam actually ever paid attention to the perspective behind the facts?

And why this cold hearted .. she didn't feel anything in this whole 6 months ?!! Sanskar said that he can't live without her , she is the light of his life .. did she forget all this or what happened to him when everyone thought she is dead ( sorry I forgot she wasn't there when this happend ) If the man her husband who loved her so much , always smiling turned 180 degree and start drinking .. start to hate her as he says .. how can she not to feel scared or even concerned .. ?! He said once that he hate drinking .. How can this all be his ego problem .. ?! She can't see how much pain he feel ?!

And this is my major grouse, fine, let us for a minute agree that Swara was justified in walking out of the MM, I am making a very very huge concession here, I still do not accept it, so it is more for argument's sake. But then, how come she is not affected by Sanskaar, not even a bit? There is no sadness, no love, no sympathy not even pity. God, that man is the one you loved, gave of yourself and today you treat him with contempt? Even if a beggar on the roadside, falls down drunk, she would have rushed to his aid. And her husband whom she still loves, supposedly, does not evoke even a twinge of regret in her - if not for what she had done (I forgot, she is always right) at least for what he now is?

About Nikhil thing ..
I don't think that Sanskar mistrusting her or anything .. he is just hurt and jealous .. Come to see what he says and do , he just seeking attention from her .. to see her reaction .. ( like a child when he want his parents attention he would make a disaster for that ) ..

Absolutely agree with you, Sanskaar is definitely not the jealous type. It think it is the hurt and the pain - one that she can blindly trust Nikhil and secondly that she can actually find it in herself to laugh as though nothing has happened in her life, that not having him with her does not affect her at all. After all, actions do speak louder than words, and here there are no words that could give Sanskaar any hope of reconciliation.

I think Sawa is ( sorry for the words ) Stupid, dumb and delusional if she really think that she will come back as Laksh come back ..Sanskar is her personal toy or something ?! Sanskar once he is hurt , he will never forgive easily .. she did it before when she suspected him for Ragini kidnapping .. and it took her a lot of time to gain his trust again to make him believe in her love for him .. ( she literally begged him to trust her and he did nothing and walked away ) Now what she will do ?
It had been 6 months and more , how she will get Sanskar back to her ? She doesn't even show any sings of regret for what she did .. she is always right and it just Sanskar ego what break their realtionship .. seriously ?! ( from which planet she did come from ?!!! )

No the words are very appropriate, she is over confident and completely delusional. For all the goodness she possess, she had never understood what it needs for a relationship, especially one like a marriage, which needs a continuous emotional inputs. You do not build a relationship by threatening the other person to bend to your will and think that you can simply waltz in and out of their lives at your wish. She also needs to understand how wrong she is.

And why she is taking Sanskar's words as an absolute thing.. truly as he is saying ?! She said something about look at the eyes the words can mean a different thing .. then why she didn't try this with him ?! If she didn't take his words seriously about to consider him dead if she mend her relation with her sister .. then why she took the rest as an absolute truth .. ?! And she keep saying that Sanskar hates her .. really she does believe that ?!!!

Swara needs a gigantic reality check, maybe Sanskaar should simply tell her that he is moving on and should do that. She knows that she is his weakness and is taking absolute advantage of that. Her idea of being able to read his eyes, it is only when it is convenient to her, currently she is busy reading Ragini, Shomi, Shekar, Uttara, and Nikhil's eyes to have any time or inclination to look at Sanskaar. And he should know, once Laksh is found, she would anyway go back to him. 😔😔

And if Swara blamed Sanskar for Ragini condition after Laksh death news .. this is will be the last nail in the coffin ..Sanskar must not accept anything from Swara or anyone else .. ( I do really hate breaking up , but what remain in their relationship to be mend for ?!! ) But I can't judge before watching the scene .. so let see what will happen .. ( though I have no hope )

Exactly what will happen, and as per the spoilers, even Sanskaar will blame himself and Swara will console him (Really...) thus proving her right and now that Sanskaar will apologise, Swara will be back in her Mission ..." whatever it is going to be🤢🤢

I lost hope on Swara from a long time and I learnt not to expect anything from her ..

Same here...I wish there were more stories, where Sanskaar gives up on her and moves on with someone else.

P.S
That was so long .. sorry I got carried away .. and still I have more to say .. but I think this is enough .. šŸ˜†

Absolutely fine with me, go on if you like.

Love
Khushi


Dear Khushi,

Replied in blue above.

love,
Nyna
Nynaeve thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: soumi93

for me she has gone long ago she killed swasan whnever she decided to lied to him nd go behind his back fr every living, non-living people material relation out there...
For swara sanskar become a source of booster nd shoulder on what she cn cry when she is sad fr others bt refused to gv that shoulder a support in shoulder holder's sadness.
her begging in kavita phase or tking his nm while falling ffom cliff wnt undo his long 6 mnths suffering which is forcedly charged on him by her...
Honestly any kinda accusation of her wl nt effect us either anymore that phrase us gone.
Once i gt she is nt mine Swara thn hw cm i expect her to b sanskar ki swara
P.S - Now nthing cn light her up in mah eyes.her love for sanskar is also a bubble like her belief on Ragini's intention of getting laksh is pure love


Dear Soumi,

Well said.

Swara keenly feels everyone's pain, expects Sanskaar to be with her in all her "dharmayudh" and yet is completely blind to him. I agree she loves him but simple love with no faith, no trust and no willingness to listen to him and stand by his side, no apparent sympathy at his present state - that love is of no use. She is indeed a great disappointment to all of us.

Regarding your last line, both the sisters seem deluded as to what true love means. šŸ˜‰

Best,
Nyna
Nynaeve thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: chibi_deea

I'm more of the silent type person but I just got to say this:

I completely - 100000% - agree with you
Your analysis is bang on šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘
I thought she would slowly realize that accusing Sanskar of Laksh's disappearance is wrong but instead she keeps on adding accusations that can in fact be held against her. Heights of hypocrisy man


Dear Andrea,

Great hearing from you. And yes, the fact that over all these months, rather than understand and realise how wrong she was to blame Sanskaar for Laksh's disappearance, she is accusing Sanskaar being egoistic and having trust issues, which is ironic, considering it was her lack of trust on Sanskaar that brought things to a standstill and it is her ego that is preventing her from seeing how bad things have deteriorated to. It will be very tough for her to work her way back to his life.

But, trust the CVs - they will turn the table on its head, and have Sanskaar asking forgiveness, which Swara will give with magnanimity.😔😔😔

Best,
Nyna
Nynaeve thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: elsanna

Well... everyone said everything... nothing more to it...šŸ˜† bang on analysis di...šŸ‘

Tani


Dear Tani,

But it does not make any difference, does it? The CVs will have Sanskaar saying sorry and Swara, with tears in her eyes (her bhula bhataka hua pati is back wala tears) will forgive him.

I am so going to hate it.

love,
Nyna
Sparkler8 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
#19
Hi Nyna
Honestly I am exhausted thinking of this track. I don't find any possible way the CVs can rescue the impending ruin of the characters (if aren't already)

Somehow when you say Abhi is indeed Lakshya and the redemption to his life saviors and all.. That makes me feel a bit better about Laksh (only a bit! I had lost all confidence on this character long ago.)

As for Swara, I think you say it all.. I have nothing else to add.

I think I am going to stop following the show in exchange again. I would much rather envision the good ol' days and spin out FF and SS than watch the show and destroy my peaceful mind.

Cheers
Sharon
Nynaeve thumbnail
9th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail Networker 1 Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: NitaReid

Me Me Me Me And Me

Hi Nyna


You know we are thinking along the same lines right..So i am sure it wont be shocking when i say i agree with everything you said 100%.. Girl, yesterday you told you want to rant and i felt the same too ..I am glad i got this thread to rant ahead😊

Ranting was nice, it felt good to get it out and surprising that so many agree to it. Swara is truly beyond hope



Seriously i dont get Swara.. And i lay on the bed last night thinking about how her realization or redemption can work out.. Because the blunders she made a sorry wont cut it in my minds..Since i know the Cvs wont give it to me , i thought let me think of an logical way..And i got none,absolutely none.. I fear we crossed the bridge of reunion long time ago.. Whatever swara do from now on, i fear i wont be able to accept it..Beg,plead,apologize,save Uttara ,save laksh none of this is going to make me like her and that were cvs destroyed her

Seriously, all doors seem to be closed for her - correct that - she has locked all of them and hammered gigantic bars across them for good measure. There is no way she can work her way to earning forgiveness, for she still continues to blame Sanskaar.😔😔



Biggest worry to compensate Swara,they might ruin Sanskar to that extent..And that my biggest worry.I got SwaSan destroyed,Swara destroyed and not Sanskar too😔😔😔

The spoilers already indicate that, Sanskaar will blame himself for Laksh's death and Swara would console him🤢 Then she spots Abhimanyu, proves him to be Laksh thus absolving Sanskaar of all guilt - dutiful wife 😔😔 that she is.



And my biggest anger is that i lost connnect with Swara.. And i am stuck in my FF..I had so lovely moment planned for SwaSan in that chapter and now i feel too sadist to make them happy even in my FF...What did this track do to all of us i wonder.. But anyway thanks dear for this post that let me rant .

It seemed to have worked quite well, your ranting - we got the update of BTM - I have read but waiting for page 100😳

Lots of love

Nita


Dear Nita,

Replied in blue above,

Love,
Nyna

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".