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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Indrajeet Bahndyopadyay's article said that it almost looks like Vyasa picked Panchali as his HERO and composed JAYA (whichj means victory but also used as a term for WIFE) around HER.

Isn't he the same guy who told Draupadi dropped tomato sauce on her white saree & ran to DS saying "drag me not, idiot, can't you see I am menstruating????". AFAIR, Idrajeet also said Drau & Yudhi planned DS & Drau fell all DDSK using the trap of her sexuality like Devi Shachi did...hmmm, ineresting.
DISCLAIMER - I don't agree with a word IB wrote on Draupadi, except the one article on her birth. I simply disagree with him there.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Brahmaputra

Anu, till this day, or till the last discussion we had, you were the one who kept saying (with evidences, of course) Draupadi was the one who wanted war, NOT Krishna!!! When did you join my side???😲


That writing project had me going line by line through KMG and CE

BOTH wanted war. Panchali was more direct and upfront about it. And as she clearly says here, it was a matter of allowing 'sin' to go on. Not personal vengeance
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Riti, for the time being I will be unable to give exact references. Can you tell me what you want to be clarified?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnuMP



That writing project had me going line by line through KMG and CE

BOTH wanted war. Panchali was more direct and upfront about it. And as she clearly says here, it was a matter of allowing 'sin' to go on. Not personal vengeance

So I guessed right!!! Okay. Can you tell me what was the "sin" which she did not want to go on?😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: riti4u

Well it is better here to agree to disagree. She can be small child but she initiated out of curiousity( you can call it mantra or you can call it mutual sex or attraction ) ofcourse i do agree bigger fault lies with father.. of course it is,... but being a child gives you excuse of doing anything.. then how would you describe juvinile crimes. I got what you were trying to say.. but even then 5 yr old or 10 yr old are found to be rapist too.do they know actually what they are doing... would you question them on being child...to me this looks more like a teenage attraction going to extent where she didnt know what result would be... if you considered this having sex in young age as equal to rape .. then I do differ.. I don't see any occurence for that interpretations.
Doing a mistake out of ignorance is one thing... but completely neglecting that mistake is other thing... I consider her mistake out of ignorance more... and indeed thousand times.. I would say father was responsible too.. but our scriptures says he was immortal and bounded by mantra( if that is to be believed) ,mantra that was invoked by kunti
If you want to compare this with modern situations... then my dear friend there can be many cases... I think you have believed this more to be child molestation.. while I have interpreted it as curiousity of young mind in trying something with someone she is attracted too not realising what outcome could be. we can have different examples for both but age doesnt justify a mistake.. it can differentiate between a mistake and a crime...but surely cant neglect that it was a mistake..
You dont consider her floating a young child into river as fault..? I do differ here too.. This is more like a murder .. if considered this too in modern era... would you even leave a small puppy in river like this to put his life in danger and this was her own son... though unwanted... still was her own..
on Karna.. I would not reply here since i might write long post which i already have written.. n since i have less time.. i wont go there...but dont worry I will write on karna when time comes for sure..😊



I am afraid the laws of India and most other countries in the world disagree with you.


Crime is not the same as being curious about sex.Kunti did not commit a crime. The crirme was Surya's.


Indian laws too, consider it statutory rape. In fact Indian laws consider it statutory rape if a cop and prisoner (both adults) have sex, given the power differential.


WHether or not, the laws are implemneted in Idnia is a different issu.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Brahmaputra

So I guessed right!!! Okay. Can you tell me what was the "sin" which she did not want to go on?😊


She doesn't say what 'sin'. Just that if sinners go on sinning and they are not punished / killed then that inaction itself is a sin. So act that sin may not touch you. (Citation on previous page)
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Brahmaputra

Isn't he the same guy who told Draupadi dropped tomato sauce on her white saree & ran to DS saying "drag me not, idiot, can't you see I am menstruating????". AFAIR, Idrajeet also said Drau & Yudhi planned DS & Drau fell all DDSK using the trap of her sexuality like Devi Shachi did...hmmm, ineresting.
DISCLAIMER - I don't agree with a word IB wrote on Draupadi, except the one article on her birth. I simply disagree with him there.


I dont agree with IB either on any of the things. But the fact is that if Panchali did any wrong, Vyasa didn't record it.

Re: war mongering. It amazes me that she gets blamed while G-man gets away for far worse!

This eternal course of morality is ever followed by the virtuous--viz., that the husband, however weak, protecteth his wedded wife! By protecting the wife one protecteth his offspring and by protecting the offspring one protecteth his own self! One's own self is begotten on one's wife, and therefore it is that the wife is called Jaya. A wife also should protect her lord, remembering that he is to take his birth in her womb! The Pandavas never forsake the person that soliciteth their protection, and yet they abandoned me who solicited it!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnuMP


She doesn't say what 'sin'. Just that if sinners go on sinning and they are not punished / killed then that inaction itself is a sin. So act that sin may not touch you. (Citation on previous page)

Okay. I checked.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Roti
You are asking JAMY to support Krishna?😆

Dude, he was an active participant in that genocide called KP.

Trust me, I am still a big fan of his and I searched every text I could find to prove it didn't happen that way. Unfortunately, had to conclude it did.😭
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Posted: 10 years ago
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We need one person here...right now...that is Sabhayata...
Where is our citation queen? I really need some crucial citations here to prove my point...n I am too lazy to search for them in KMG amongst bulls n lions... 😆

Just read some posts here n but will reply after going back home...


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