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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: ritika06

In the name of freedom of expression,in daljit's FC,one member wrote,"Daljeet,u r a witch",another member wrote,"Daljit,u r a prostitute,u slept with one of the cvs and got ur role important",another member wrote,"Daljit,u should die.u don't have any right to live".

I don't think this is freedom of expression.Instead,this is MISUSE of freedom of expression.It's like u kill someone and when the police comes,u say i have freedom to do anything so u have no right to arrest me.😆
People say that IF is their home but they don't want to accept the rules and mock the mods.They want to happily bash,insult an actress but no one should say anything to them.😆Even with rules,forum ka yeh haal hai,people want an actress to die just for a tv serial,socho,if there are no rules,forum ka kya haal hoga.And u guys are protesting as if u will follow the rules.I am sure majority of the members here NEVER follow any rules and keep on bashing actors and mods so why are u guys worrying?These warning posts will keep on coming from the mods but none of the members here will even care for it and continue breaking ruless.That's what is happening here.
IPKKND is No.1 forum on IF not because of positive posts.It's No.1 only because of innumerable negative or i can say,bashing posts.
People here curse real people and wish them to die for a fictional show.This is the height of insensitivity.
I know many members will bash me for this post but i don't care because that what members love to do here.😆


So what if they wrote that who are you and who am I to point a finger at them?? Why should those people conform to YOUR and MY moral standards? They felt like saying something they did.

Tomorrow let us flip the situation -- MODS themselves start saying the kind of stuff you are mentioning -- what will happen then? Will you come agains the MODs then?

If some people use the forum for entertainment and bash posts -- so what? Are we so damn serious and stuck up that we cannot take a bunch of kids having fun? DO we need these POLICEMAN to come protect us when all that is being done is "people talking"???

Honestly I find the "need for policing" regressive as hell. That is the start of people getting their freedoms crushed.

This is a damn forum for SOAPs! If we cannot speak freely here how can we do that about important issues? There will be a lot more powerful people that will stop us from speaking our mind there because there are a lot of vested interests!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: ritika06

The mods of ipkknd forum gave a warning only because of such comments on daljeet in her fan page.They have contunuously said that constructive criticism is fine but some members croos all the limits of criticism.That is when the mods draw a line and stop them.


Again Ritika -- WHO decides what is Constructive and what is NOT. Are you comfortable in giving away YOUR right to judge things to a bunch of people that just want to go around policing?

That is a BIG mistake not just on the web but in real life as well -- NO one should decide what you can and cannot say or what the definition of what you feel is.
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Posted: 13 years ago
well discussing actors personal lives is wrong... i agree...but why can't we discuss angali jha's charachter's negativity when we can easily do tht with shyam's ? why these double standards...wht i am trying to say tht when too many ppl feel same abt some thing then there would be some point...if the whole forum is going against angali's charachter then thts an ultimate ultimatum for CVs to bring positive changes in her charachter or else ppl are gona stop watching ur show...and if we are not allowed to sxpress wht we feel then what will happen will be..tht ppl will be leaving the show and CVs will unable to figure out the true reason
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Black_Paradize

well discussing actors personal lives is wrong... i agree...but why can't we discuss angali jha's charachter's negativity when we can easily do tht with shyam's ? why these double standards...wht i am trying to say tht when too many ppl feel same abt some thing then there would be some point...if the whole forum is going against angali's charachter then thts an ultimate ultimatum for CVs to bring positive changes in her charachter or else ppl are gona stop watching ur show...and if we are not allowed to sxpress wht we feel then what will happen will be..tht ppl will be leaving the show and CVs will unable to figure out the true reason


Honestly it is again moral standards -- there are ton of magazines that discuss what a particular celebrity did on a particular day -- That is their biz. On a form that is open no topic is actually "barred" from discussion.

If that were the case, those celebs will not have their fame and their time on the media and there will be no 8 PM entertainment around this kind of stuff.

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: FairyLiquidSoap

👏 A voice of sanity sensibility and for freedom I love your post KKSR😊
In this forum members can describe in minute detail the anatomical glory of the male lead from the bulge in his frontal to the follicle in the crevice of the crack of his keister and there will be a million hosannas over that without any shutdowns

In this forum members can rip a female lead character to bits with sometimes the reel and real person being bashed and lines being crossed without any objections being raised

In this forum moral policing over an Actor's personal life is subject to who has written the post a newbie gets reported a popular one gets the praises

In this forum posts can get shut by Mods depending on who their sympathy lies with

So I find freedom of expression highly skewered selective elective and biased in this forum depending on who does the interpretation and which way their opinions sway.

Adjudicators are known to have a reputation for being fair minded and neutral but alas here when they themselves start imposing an unfair Draconian code of conduct then it is time for all to introspect and ask just whose Forum is this. The popularity of a site depends on the amount of freedom over the right to express I do agree when it becomes terribly personal then lines have been crossed but when one post is allowed to flourish in similar circumstances and another shutdown means there is a certain prejudice

Maybe a time has come for truly neutral observers ala the UN



Awesome comment 👏
Thank you for the support!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: velangini

bindhu
take a hug from me for making this post🤗
and that too at this place not on where it would have been closed down by now

the forum rules remind me of reading my history lessons where dictators had their way with people by imposing laws here it is rules
it is PUBLIC forum for heaven's sake
everybody has a right to express
the rules are putting off so many people
it's a place where we all share our passion for the show
where we discuss,dissect ans analyse
we spend most of our time here
i feel someone has snatched something dear to me
we can't voice out our opinions in a public forum,are you kidding me
when a show is aired,the makers,actors should be ready to receive bouquets and bricks in the same cheerful way with the smile intact
if we don't like something,we are entitled to voice out our opinions
i don't know what is happening to the forum but it will be losing many members if the situation continues to be the same



Here is a huge hug back 🤗 Thank you for supporting the cause. These moderators and their rules makes no sense and we never signed up for it!

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: ASR4eva

I agree with you!

This is a forum meant for discussions whether negative or positive. People come here to vent their frustration or show some appreciation towards the show they watch and tha actors/characters.
Views can be negative as well. It is up to the other people how they take it and it isn't the fault of the person actually voicing his/her opinions. This is my opinion.
I have seen many threads being closed just because they have negative opinions about something related to the show. Even if they're trying to put their point across in a peaceful manner this has happened. In my opinion, not everyone can voice their thoughts in such a manner that they'll make the other person feel awesome or anything along those lines so not everything can be considered bashing. And if we're calling some character in the show by different names then other people cant take it as nick names also and anyways in the end this is a fictional show which we shouldn't forget.
No offense to anyone. Just voicing my opinion. 😊
Lovely post kksr! 😊



Thank you for the support. They need to realize this is not a fan club but a public forum.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: stafhtad

This kind of censorship is a shame and I might even go as far as saying that this kind of censorship is almost illegal.

SLB Devdas got some outlandishly good reviews and some humiliatingly disrespecting bad reviews. Still people who wanted to see the movie did and people who did not want to see the movie didnt and then some people who did not want to see the movie still saw it and panned it and some people who wanted to see the movie regretted wanting to see it.
Similary Aishwarya was given glowing reviews and few reviewers were so harsh on her saying all she has is one expression and Madhuri should have been given the role of Paro.
Reason I am saying this is, here it is not the characters of the Devdas story which were panned. But the actors, firectors, technicians who put the fictional characters come alive on screen panned.
A film like 3 Idiots also got couple of negative reviews where they said, it lacked the soul of earlier Rajkumar Hirani pictures.
Here if we say on the IPK forum, Barun Sobti lacks the soul of his earlier performances, we are lynched, reported and shut down.
The difference is, where the MODS are taking great pleaure in saying, "even 9 year olds" visit this forum and 9 year olds are trigger happy seeing the report button and get offended for every little thing.
If that is the case, the rules should clearly mention, this forum is for Disney Channel sensibilities in which case, the adults can stay away.
Maybe proof of age can be requires and if we are above 12, be banned from the forum. Because, anything which resembles, freedom in the real world, seems to be lacking here on this fourm, especially IPK fourm.



Well said 👏 What they are doing in these forums in the name of censorship is illegal!
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Posted: 13 years ago
By the way guys, Freedom of Speech is kind of ALIVE in India as well! Here is a link to what they did finally with Aseem Trivedi


But the forum seems to think otherwise -- Mandy shut down my post without REASON!

The post DOES NOT violate even their own rules!

Cheers.
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Posted: 13 years ago
bindhu ji

again an awesome post👍🏼
we are getting rules as for the mood of the mods
they change the rules if and when pleased
when rules are made,they had to be well thought and well laid out
not to modify according to your whims
we protest and they change,what in the world is that
it shows that they themselves are not sure about the rules
the pseudo-reality which is the forum has become a battle ground of wits
people bashing others because they said something negative about a fictional character or some person who doesn't even know you exist,i really bow to them

india is a democratic country and people are entitled to freedom of speech
by curbing the very basic right,what are they trying to convey
if they can't control,they should just ban the whole discussing thing and put it up as just entertainment news website
i have right to express my opinion without being threatened for doing so
and i bloody well exercise my right

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