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Posted: 13 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: venture

Your frankness might come across as being harsh and strongly based on your opinion which you are declaring as a fact , I think one is entitled to there opinion. Yes by playing as a game mean , use your strong points, be sensible , don't try things which requires skills which you might not have, SYR is a game a comeptition as far as I know, so yes play it as a game, Mansi is playing very sensibly , she is choosing the songs which suits her voice, what Ragini is doing wrong here as she herself said, " I am going to try everything , experiment, I will test my self and not just sing a song which I find easy " check IF interview. She is choosing songs which are either item numbers or modulating the voice in order to give it a different look which is not liked by everybody. I think you guys are making her sound bad that I listened to her just to see may be I am BLIND ! but thank God I may be BLIND as Ragini,s fan but not DEAF. I would again say in order to say that Ragini is best I can not say so and so is horrible. Mediocre , don't know how to song, not able to sing. Your comments did not hurt me at all unlike other fans who simply get hurt by any ABC comments, but I must say I can feel the bitterness OUCH!



Manasi is singing a variety of songs...she's singing rock songs, she's singing softer, soulful numbers and not just that...in every song, she adds variations which show the POWER and range in her voice...basically the very fact that she HAS so much range allows her to experiment...I haven't liked some of her song choices but I can never fault her singing...it's spot on every time. So it's not really about sensibility as much as it is about the fact that she HAS that talent, that ABILITY to basically sing almost any kind of song.

Sadly, in Ragini's case song choice is killing her...most of the time she is not able to nibhaao the song she picks...I'm not sure what risks she thinks she's taking but her song choices are not doing much for her...If Mungda was her "modulating" her voice, then I really don't know what to say...that "modulation" was sounding very rigid...she doesn't sing khul ke.

Actual modulation and the ability to change her voice is what Manasi showcases each time.

*Edit: My opinion is not harsh as far as I can see...but if you choose to view it as so, I can't help you😊
Edited by nureat01 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#32
Respect your opinion 100% . I can't comment on Mansi,s singing or choice of songs much as I heard her as a contestant but I listen and watch Ragini as her fan so sometimes it makes me happy and sometimes it makes me uncomfortable when I see her not using her full potentials , now you can counter attack by saying that she does not have one, but she can sing and she is singing, she is in the competition and the game is still on, let's wait and hear until the last song.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: venture

Respect your opinion 100% . I can't comment on Mansi,s singing or choice of songs much as I heard her as a contestant but I listen and watch Ragini as her fan so sometimes it makes me happy and sometimes it makes me uncomfortable when I see her not using her full potentials , now you can counter attack by saying that she does not have one, but she can sing and she is singing, she is in the competition and the game is still on, let's wait and hear until the last song.



I'm not saying that Ragini doesn't have potential or that she can't sing...she can sing...but she doesn't have a lot of RANGE in her singing at this point...she needs to train a LOT more to be able to get that much range in her voice and do more with her voice.

If I really had to give an example, I'd give the example of Chhavi who's come a LONG way from her first week in this show...now there's someone who could hardly sing much when this show started and she's improved SO much such that I would seriously count her as a dark horse at this point.

Anyways, Ragini has the support of her fans who will vote for her regardless...so that's just a different aspect of the game.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#34
When the judges Anu ji and Alisha ji came up with 10 and 10...I was not exactly shocked...but definitely very surprised. Although I like Ragini and also her singing...but I definitely thought her singing did not deserve a 10 and 10. This is just my opinion and am not trying to offend anyone here especially Ragini fans.
She was very good last week. I hope to see better performances from Ragini today and in the coming weeks.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Aray nahi! Ragini,s fans are not offended that easily!! I agree that this song might not be her best but they liked the over all performance, I liked Nanak ishq ka better then Mungda, she got 17 then. And yes I agree that she needs a lot more training, if she decides to take up singing , but right now she is not, and that's the whole point of the format of the programme, stars who can sing a bit give them opportunity to sing more to be a rock star ( I don't agree with this Rock Star business as well) I think its just matter of opinion, and at the end we would all be shocked by the result as there could be some body else who would win! I promise I won't call it RIGGED , as after giving it a thought I said to myself " hey , who cares , I am enjoying seeing Ragini sing, seeing her perform well, seeing her smile laugh, what more do I want!!, if she wins then bravo I would be in top of the world celebrating with every body , if not then it's okey too she did her best, she gave me so much to look forward to" so yes I will be fine. And us Ragnians are like Ragini, bindaas, just do your best and don't worry about the result, we will support her in every way wether it would be celebrating or otherwise , Ragini all the way!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#36
evri one have their own opinion and we kant force our views on ani one..i'hve neva heard of the song ragini sang on satdae before..so i wont comment on that..but one thing is for sure that ragini kan sing..she has had 15 years of trainin in this department..well i think ragini is playin the game strategicalli ..she will show her real potential as it nears to the finals..and as the judges had said that ragini is improving by the week..so might be she's just warmin up right now ..its just my opinion..😃..naw hard feelings to ani one..😃
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Okay I followed the debate/discussion - whatever this has become up to Page 3 and then just figured the rest was in accord.

For someone who was among minority very much IN LIKE for Ragini in the first week when she sang Namak Ishq - I doubt anyone can tag me 'Manasi fan' like that! Anyway - totally in agreement with Nur and Mash - even if we went by the cumulative of the weeks that have been so far, Manasi has easily outdone the rest - including Ragini, per say. She has shown such versatility - and she has shown significant body language for a stage performer too, if that's the quail Ragini fans have. Besides primarily, and foremost, we look at the voices for a singing contest. If they were to be tied at that - which they are NOT - we'd move on to who was 'expressing' better. Ragini in general hasn't stepped out of her comfort zone once yet - and that said if we compared her best with Manasi's best (so far for both) the outcome would be same as it was for yesterday's POTW title.

And whoever brought up the topic of 'enjoying' oneself on stage - seriously?! Manasi was midway singing Lambi Judaai yesterday, and I wasn't actually sitting at the screen watching but all over my room with the woofers on high, and I was thinking to myself she has that kind of emotion to her voice, which halts you in whatever it is you are doing to just stop, close your eyes, and listen, and feel every word - and then the song ended and I heard Mona and her dialogue about being into the performance, and I rushed back to the screen to rewind and check, and I was such a proud and ardent admirer of Manasi the artist all over again! She feels that intangible but SO evident an attachment to her music - its divine to feel that passion for anything in ones life, and very few people actually get close to being so in oneness with their art! For Ragini - what's exclusively lacking is in fact this, that I must sit at the screen AND watch her, to feel her song. It makes a performer, not a better singer.

Anyway - Dhole Re as a single performance set a bar much higher than any in general. I can't think of anyone there among the contestants, who could actually pull off anything like it in a single take. If they can, they need to step up and show it - because speaking for myself at least, I'd LOVE to see some actual match up competition for Manasi on that singing stage. There's no fun in a contest knowing a clear best!

ps: On the note of drift from objectivity, I think votes might be the only criteria where that factor comes up. Really. I don't suppose it will be the case, but I wish the finale were to be in judges hands alone - whatever they're like, if the show isn't rigged, they'd at least not be un-objective.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#38
I honestly think , getting '20' should be really exceptional and Ragini is geting favoured because of her stardom, popularity.
I can understand Ragini's last week's 'Dekh le ankhome ankhe daal' getting 20 but mugda totally sounded annoying.
Judges look totally confused yesterday.. I guess the marks were given just based on her 'facial expressions, her performance skills and popularity', not singing !
I find Sachin and Ragini ' proper singers' , while others 'actor turned singers' including Ragini.
I feel Chhavi is underrated, Vikas was underrated too , Chhavi even though has to work harder but her voice quality is really good and last week she sang very well.
I love Ragini as 'actress', no doubt about it but singing I feel she still ranks no 5 After Sachin, Mansi, Chhavi, Sumeet, but that's just my opinion.

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Posted: 13 years ago
#39
So I finally saw her sing the mungda song...and I personally felt she was completely out of tone😕The way she started Mungdaa was not good..and then when she continued,I felt it was not her voice😕..I am really..that's not Ragini's voice...the song personally for me sounded like the voice of a schoolgirl(no offence..I would never be offensive to Ragini😆)but for the first time,her whole performance made me switch off the video mid wayI am very disappointed because she is so good in voice modulation in her show...maybe she isn't that much comfortable with her voice modulation while singing..it turns out to be very weird to meand that's actually bad coz i was looking forward to her performance in this show.Till now I have just liked Dekh Le and I want to see her sing songs like that..without any false voice/tone like Lag Ja Gale and Mungda..She for no doubt made all the marathi mulgi harkatein and all as a part of her performance..but doing these,she is LOSING OUT ON HER TONES!..I personally expected more from her in the show,but I feel she isn't upto that level that i can wish that she would be in finals(which I wanted to from the start).But anyways,there's scope for improvement so i hope she does improve herself.In this show anything is possible,so i wish all of them the very best👍🏼

Coming to the topic title,I don't think she deserved the 20 marks for her performance.If this 20 would have been for her Dekh Le,it was justified(for me)..but I dont know what made Anu Malik and Alisha give her 20 much.
Edited by .sb. - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#40
Shounak I like the way you explained your reason for disliking, very objective and to the point, obviously your opinion which I don't have to agree but I can't disagree completely too, she could and should do better, the way she normally hums us just super amazing, I loved lag Ja Galay,I might be the only one) I wish she didnt made the mistakes she made in that sing. I personally dont like the Mungda song, but I liked her performance. For me I loved Namak Ishq ka & dhek lay, and I enjoyed all the performances. I guess some like me enjoy the performance on whole . Kaiser yeh pahailee was better then Mungda, but I think they gave full marks for over all impact of the song. She got 13, 17 & 18 too it's nit they always give her full marks.

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