Did Ragini deserve 20 today ?????? - Page 3

Originally posted by: incandescence

Oh and here I thought I was the only one who thought that. She so didn't deserve the 20. She's quite an immature singer...there's no spontaneity in hr singing...a lack of flow. She sings very rigidly...holds back herself...and I understand why she does that. She's not very confident about her singing...she knows that if she doesn't hold back, if she let go...the sur would slip. She has a longgg way to go. NAILED IT! This is exactly my issue with Ragini's singing too...that RIGIDITY in her singing especially really puts me off...ironic considering she's pretty good with jumping around for the rest of the performance but her actual SINGING portion is always so rigid.😕

And what's a big deal about Ragini being a bad singer. Toh kiya hua agar nahin gaati acha...she's not a professional singer...she's an actor and she's good at that. Who cares if she wins or not...in fact I think it'll be embarrassing for her (and her fans) if she win this...because I think only a veryyy stupid fan or someone with no sense of music would believe that she deserves to win this with the likes of Sachin Manasi and even Sumeet in the show.



@bold...You know, I agree with you on this...though that's because I believe Manasi is on a whole another level only. Ragini is very mediocre...her singing is very BASIC...Ragini needs a lottt of training to reach that level. LMAO Mash ji no one has a way of cutting through to the bone like you do *bows in awe*😆😆....Now see if I compare Ragini with Chhavi or Manish or Neha toh comparison banta bhi hai.

Honestly if there are some objective Ragini fans out there, they would acknowledge that on the basis of singing, she really has a long way to go...she's a fab actress and a really fun person in real life...but I'm talking strictly about SINGING ability...and she IS lacking there...she needs to stop singing so artificially and stiffly.

Hi there nureat01 !! I didn't realise it's you, you use to be quite regular at SGP forum and I loved your VM s in the begining then you stopped. Good to see you here.
Regarding me saying in EVERY post that if gbe competition is fair! Now that's harsh on me! I don't think I said that. The topic maker questioned about Ragini,s 20 , I gave my opinion and sowed my support.
I agree with Tani here that everybody is here to compete, you can not dismiss any one.
Ragini being a mediocre singer? Well all of them are as none of them are actually A singer, they sing but one can not call them a singer. No one should be arrogant about there singing here as almost a of them hand major flaws which is understandable.
We will see the results in due time , I agree that Ragini is not singing khul Kay , what ever may be the reason she is giving her 100% sometimes it works sometimes it does not, she is still in the competition just as Mansi. There are others in the competition too , who are equally committed and deserve to be heard!
I would say it again to say somebody is great you can not and should not say others are bad or do not deserve to win, whoever participate in a competition deserve to win and there to win. I don't enjoy the idea of being a blind fan, yes I will support Ragini all the way, if I like the performance I would be escastic and if I do not like the performance I will say why I didn't like it and how can she should improve and hope and pray that she does because she should try everything to win as to win you have to play.

@Tani: I'm sorry if I came across as rude or extra defensive too...no offence meant from my end either...I guess we'll just agree to disagree peacefully then😊...



@Venture: LOL I'm amazed ppl still remember me from the SGP forum...I was banished quite a long time ago again for being frank in my opinion about the show😆

Well if you didn't say that then my bad...maybe it was some other post that confused me.

Yes, everyone will support their favorites in their own way...we were just having a discussion about objective singing evaluation here...but yeah best to agree to disagree as we are all viewing it in different ways.

Most of Ragini,s fan are objective and critical ( Ragz said that too about IF fans :) ) read our comments in other topics almost all of us said stop being ambitious, experimenting, choose songs sensibly, play it as a game.
The other thing which I want to ask , what is a Rock star? As in all honestly most of the Rock Stars are quite baysura!! They scream and jump up and down with the guitar! You get headaches after the gigs, I live near Glastonbery in UK , world,s famous music festival happens there every year thousands attend that and believe me very few sing most of them scream!

Originally posted by: Tani91

@bold WHY should it be embarrassing for her to win the competition?? she is working hard just like the rest of them, juggling her serial shooting with practice hours...she is in the competition to win like the rest of them...and to make a judgement that she will suck throughout the whole competition? that's just wrong...you're not even ready to give her a chance...time will tell who will be a claer winner...remember Susan Boyle...everyone had already pinned her to be the winner of BGT but she came second...anything can happen...but to make this judgement that she clearly doesnt deserve to win? that's just wrong Chavi, Manish and Neha are also there to win and to participate in the competition...so why be unfair to them as well? Who knows they might do a 180 and emerge as the dark horses (well except Neha since she's eliminated) Chavi too has the potential to win if she keeps on performing like last week

I find it so funny that Mansi fans are being unfair to other contestants just because they are not as superior at singing like Mansi is? Every single contestant in this competition (besides Debina) has proven that they CAN sing, so why just shove everyone to the side and keep Mansi on the pedestal and say she is the best😕 sorry but once again I don't think Mansi is as great as you people make her out to be YES she is a great singer but the best in the competition? I dont think so (again this is ALL just my subjective interpretation of her singing)

@bold...You yourself admit that she's superior at singing...if she's 'superior' at 'singing' how are we being 'unfair' to other contestant by calling her a deserving candidate in a 'singing' show? As for the rest of your post...I'm sorry I assumed Ragini and her fans would be embarrassed if she win this just because she doesn't deserve to. Clearly that's not the case. Yes, Chhavi has improved...even Ragini has improved a lot but they all need a lot more 'training'...not just 'practice'...TRAINING! And I'm not shoving EVERYONE aside but yes I don't see Chhavi, Manish, Ragini winning this when there are singers like Manasi, Sachin, Sumeet and that amazingly talented Kapil guy in this show now. That would be 'unfair' to these 'superior-ly' talented 'singers'. You may not think Manasi is the best...your opinion...you may think Ragini is good...your opinion...but I think everyone, including all Ragini fans, would accept that Mansi is a better (See superior) 'singer' than Ragini...right? I mean cmonnn...you are too smart to deny that.

That said...don't think I'm saying this as a Manasi fan...really, I watch Manasi's performance more critically than Ragini's performance. I have nothing against Ragini or her fans...in fact I really like Ragini a lot too...not her singing...but her. She's a good actress...I LOVED her as Bharti...even as a personality...she's cute...sometimes very charmingly spontaneous...but yes not really a fan of her singing...she's really bad at it IMHO.

Originally posted by: venture

Most of Ragini,s fan are objective and critical ( Ragz said that too about IF fans :) ) read our comments in other topics almost all of us said stop being ambitious, experimenting, choose songs sensibly, play it as a game.

@bold: Don't mind Venture, but I don't really consider that being objective...being objective would be acknowledging the glaring flaws in her singing...I don't think she is being ambitious at all...rather she is very much playing to her strengths like dancing and using her expressions in every performance...because her singing IS shaky in frankly every performance.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about "playing it as a game"...this is a singing competition, not Big Boss that it should be played like a game😕

Oh but I will add that song choice matters...if there is any song that Ragini can GENUINELY sing openly...not going all stiff and rigid in the song...then she should pick that song...a song that she GENUINELY finds easy to sing...it would help.

Originally posted by: nureat01

Oh but I will add that song choice matters...if there is any song that Ragini can GENUINELY sing openly...not going all stiff and rigid in the song...then she should pick that song...a song that she GENUINELY finds easy to sing...it would help.

Exactly! Like that 'Dekh le' performance...I really liked that. Did you watch it? Ab tak that was her best performance...no one can laugh like her for sure...😆

Originally posted by: incandescence

Exactly! Like that 'Dekh le' performance...I really liked that. Did you watch it? Ab tak that was her best performance...no one can laugh like her for sure...😆

LOL yeah that was a really cute one...whatever she does to her voice these days suited that song😆😆...I agree that was her best so far...but if she gets 20s for stuff like this mungda, I'm scared to think what she'll pick next😕

Your frankness might come across as being harsh and strongly based on your opinion which you are declaring as a fact , I think one is entitled to there opinion. Yes by playing as a game mean , use your strong points, be sensible , don't try things which requires skills which you might not have, SYR is a game a comeptition as far as I know, so yes play it as a game, Mansi is playing very sensibly , she is choosing the songs which suits her voice, what Ragini is doing wrong here as she herself said, " I am going to try everything , experiment, I will test my self and not just sing a song which I find easy " check IF interview. She is choosing songs which are either item numbers or modulating the voice in order to give it a different look which is not liked by everybody. I think you guys are making her sound bad that I listened to her just to see may be I am BLIND ! but thank God I may be BLIND as Ragini,s fan but not DEAF. I would again say in order to say that Ragini is best I can not say so and so is horrible. Mediocre , don't know how to song, not able to sing. Your comments did not hurt me at all unlike other fans who simply get hurt by any ABC comments, but I must say I can feel the bitterness OUCH!