SKR-Of loops and symbolisms#5: Hard way and Smart Way : P.88 - Page 76

@Shirley happy to see you. Yes Janak's anger will be subdued after seeing Ram for sure

exams over. Since I am using phone am posting doubt In the end while the post consists of bits and pieces from ur analysis which inspired me.
Doubts in the end Di

Sanskriti hypocrisy is exposed because in all other cases it was poor men the victims who extracted heavy price from their women. Sita refuses to be a victim, forcing Ram to make her a victim.

For Vachanpalan Harischandra
sells Taramati and his son Rohit. Shanta and other daughter's are sacrificied
because a male heir is needed.

Now who is Ram. He is a man born to a father who for his
sake decided to dispense of his daughter or also other daughters of Ayodhya. His journey from boy to man started when a woman
demanded her rights to the king. Kaikeyi. A vachan was given to her and she
asked it. But the world blamed her. His father sacrificed her. But for Ayodhya
it didn't matter. Because after all it was Kaikeyi's fault alone. The
vachanpalan of Raghuvansh Dasrath would have broken it, if Kaikeyi had yielded
to him or Ram would have yielded to him. It is Kaikeyi's obstinate stand that
finally gave justice to Kausalya.

Now where is the mess for Raghuvansh coming. They treat Sita
also dispensable irrespective of her carrying the heir to the throne. Well we don't
boy or girl yet, but still the fact Sita is pregnant gives a hope that she is
carrying heir to the throne. Note the point a kingdom that has gone to great
extend to get a heir to the throne abusing Prakriti, that kingdom is going to
get a heir the natural way due to the love shared by the king and the queen. But
well the kingdom or the ancestors don't want it. Why . If Sita goes Ram can
remarry. From that he will have heir, so what is the big deal with Sita. Let
her go. Let him sacrifice her. Afterall Raghuvansh has survived this long doing
this sacrifices only. It will again sustain. So Raghuvansh wants Ram not Sita
Raghuvansh forgets that they claim to do vachanpalan. They
will lose life, but will hold on to the vachan. What none of them know is the
fact that Ram has given a vachan to Sita. Yes Ram can go back on that vachan only Sita knows it. But
he doesn't. He sticks to it. The ancestors, Ayodhya everyone shivers as there
is no heir for the throne. King will not remarry and no one could go near him
because he is only doing the famed vachan palan of Raghuvansh. Raghuvansh needs
Sita. Ayodhya needs Sita. When a man
decides to follow the maryada in right sense. Sita is pure or impure becomes secondary. They hypocrisy of
Ayodhya comes in the open. It wants heir to the throne which only Sita can
give. And what Mahalakshmi does. She gives the heirs, but in front of the world
proves her chastity discarding the society who questioned her, but at the same
time vindicating her husband's decision of taking her back. Ram takes the blame. He allows his wife to take a stand for
herself. He shows if he abandons her, she also has the right to abandon him and
the society that he represents. Name, fame, wealth, power and children. The heirs were not
Sita's gift to the society, it was her gift to Ram for the love he showered on
her. For the trust he placed on her. Ram shows the world Ram is nothing without
Sita. He is Siyaram. In short unless a man coexists with woman, unless he
respects Prakriti the end of his so called vansh will happen sooner than expected.
Yes Ram saves Raghuvansh, he creates new maryada in Raghuvansh. Alas only Sita
banishment is looked at. Not the intent of both Ram and Sita.
Let us see the journey of parityaag
of Kaikeyi by Dasrath. Kaikeyi loved Dasrath and she believed Dasrath also
loved her. Dasrath if you see had fallen for Kaikeyi's beauty and more than
love he had lust or moh for her. Also he was in need of another queen who can
give him a heir to the throne. So to satisfy his lust he promises Kaikeyi's
father the child born to Kaikeyi will be the king. Kaikeyi doesn't know about
this deal. She goes on servicing her husband as a good wife. She goes to battle
unlike other queens. A very tough woman. And in a battle she saves the king's
life for which she gets 2 boons. Now Kaikeyi never asks these boons as she is
very much satisfied as a wife. Now she comes to know about the deal. She
questions Dasrath. What does she get. Insult. Ego of a man who questions her
feminity and who berates her contribution of carrying a baby nine months in her
womb. Truth of
what has happened between his parents is unknown to young Bharath when he is
packed away to Kekaya. And when the coronation of Ram is announced, Kaikeyi turns
Kali demands her boons which sends Ram to exile and Dasrath to death. And she
herself is sacrificed by both Dasrath and Bharath. Reason is Bharath doesn't know
why his mother did what she did. Kaikeyi's problem was her Mahatwakamsha which
wanted the throne. But even after the sacrifice Kaikeyi lives in the palace as
other queens accommodate her. So Kaikeyi lives in the palace as a condemned
woman and she remains a condemned woman though the mistake was both Dasrath and
Kaikeyi's in the coronation mess. Now let us go to Ram-Siya. They have feelings for one
another before the Swayamavar. He feels for her and she feels for him hearing
about each other. But what differentiates Ram from Dasrath is the fact that he doesn't
take any shortcut to get his love. He goes the proper way. He satisfies the
condition set by Siya's father for her Swayamvar and marries her as his love
and Dharmapatni in front of the society. Now like Kaikeyi, Siya too follows her
husband for his vanvass where she is abducted. Now why
Lakshman. Because when Ram sends away Sita as he rightly says he is sending
away his life, his identity and his happiness with her. So in that decision Ram
is emotionally dead. Rajaram is only a machine, not a man. Now since Ram is
emotionally dead, Sita will emotionally die hearing the news Lakshman cannot
escape. He also has to be emotionally dead. What better way to kill him than
asking him to tell his loving Bhabi that his bhaiyya has sacrificed her .

Now where does Sita wins. She doesn't ask her rights. But
her sons question Ayodhya after learning Ramayan. Just like Bharath, Luv-Kush
also doesn't know what happened between their parents. But unlike Bharath who
stood with his father and brother, Luv-Kush stands with their mother.
Now where does Shanta fits in the whole mess. When she went,
it was a private pain of Kausalya. She was not supposed to show it. What changes here. It becomes the
pain of palace slowly becoming the pain of Ayodhya. Why. By eating the food
that he ate for Vanvass which Sita has taught the palace cooks and by keeping
the golden statue of Sita in public Ram wears his heart on the sleeve.
Slowly but steadily that trust he gains from her by remaining true to the
vachan he gave her. Sita doesn't go, she had to be sent away, she doesn't ask
her rights, her sons ask on her behalf. Without doing anything, she does
everything. Establishes her identity, her purity and the trust her husband had
kept on her before surrendering herself to mother earth. Another interesting thing I saw wrong. Prakriti and Sanskriti needs each other and they should co-exist. Ramayana was always about co-existence with Vishnu and Mahalakshmi coming to earth as humans, behaving like humans, committing certain mistakes just like humans do, paying the price of those mistakes. Only thing is that they didn't run away or hide from those mistakes. But faced the world head on and proved their love to be eternal irrespective of multiple difficulties and societal norms And the great thing I like about epics is the fact that no one is perfect.
Hari. He will make you eat your words. You will not have anything to say. That
was what happened to Guru Vashisth and the queens when they questioned Ram. He
tells each of them what they told when he asked them his problems. They gave
him theory. Because they didn't know it involved the kulvadhu of Ayodhya, it
involved the royal family, it involved Sita. The eyes of one dispensing justice
is closed. It doesn't see who is at the receiving end. It only looks at the
laws and the balance it needs to attain to pass the verdict. That's what someone in power has to do. No personal
interest, only seva. Dasrath did injustice to his praja as well as his daughter
treating them dispensable for the sake of the son. And that son publicly
brought out the hypocrisy of Ayodhya by sacrificing his wife for the reeti,
neeti and the theoretical maryada of Raghukul taking the blame on himself. All
men of Raghukul had escaped doing injustice. But actually without doing any
injustice Ram takes the blame as he creates the perception of injustice done to
Sita. Actually Sita sacrifice is the result of the Karma done by the Raghukul
by selling of woman and child in the case of Harishchandra. Sending woman to
woo rishi, marrying multiple times for the sake of child etc. All this is
injustice done to Prakriti which is pushed under the carpet which Ram brings
out. Kausalya says she cannot tolerate an injustice done to a mother. Where was
she, when the daughters of Ayodhya were send to woo Rishisringa. Wasn't that
injustice to the mother's of Ayodhya. Why only it becomes injustice when at the
receiving end is the kulvadhu of palace. That vachanpalan shows
Prakriti Ram's love for Sita and the intend of his action. So Prakriti
preserves Raghukul taking away only its ego.
Ram remains in the
bandhan of Sanskriti which asks him to maintain the maryada of Sanskriti. And
well the outer world is happy. They have won. Ram have sacrificed his wife.
Their regressive thoughts can continue. What they don't see, what they don't understand
is that in front of them he is Rajaram, but behind the curtains he is Siyaram. Yes
to everyone in the palace it looks Sita is left alone in forest.
but as king that was the best diplomatic move. Using the person who has
followed all his orders the king creates the beautiful perception of Sita
sacrifice for the society. Lakshman represents Ram's sevak from the perspective
of Sanskriti. He is the incarnation of Adisesha who has to suck the poison from
the minds of people. So the process of sucking the poison out starts from him. As
poison wont affect him how much ever he takes it out as he is Adisesha who has
the capacity to hold only the deadly poison within him and do the seva of
Vishnu in preserving the world. Now behind the curtains Ram calls his sevak Hanuman who is
the representative of Prakriti. He entrusts Siya to the cradle of Prakriti. And
who is Hanuman, Rudra himself. By supporting Sita, by bringing Valmiki and
ensuring Sita is taken to Valmiki Ashram Hanuman gives the right nurture to
Sita to begin the process of destruction of Ayodhya's hypocrisy. I loved the way
Valmiki spoke to Sita. He recognizes Mahalakshmi which people of Ayodhya didn't
. We have to know even when Sita comes to Lanka the people of Lanka realizes
she is something special including Kaikasi, Mandodari and Sulochana. That shows
where Ayodhya is even below the so called adharmi Lanka.

In the ashram he says from today she is going to be the annapoorneshwari of the
ashram. That shows how much Valmiki revers Mahalakshmi. Why Valmiki is able to
rever Sita. Why Sanskriti's kalank thought doesn't affect him. Because he is a
man who had lot of bad deeds behind him. But with his tapasya he gained
knowledge and wrote Ramayan. So he knows it is your deeds that make you good or
bad. Even people who have done bad deeds can become good if they sincerely
repent and surrender to Lord. So Sita who has not done any wrong action can
never be impure. Can u explain the poor men became victims wasn't it only ram?Other daughters ayodha sacrificed what does that mean Di?. Kaikeyi brings justice for kaushilya u mean when Dasharath repents in death bed right?Kul ki raksha ke liye Sita ka parityaag. If Sita destroys herself with that ends the prestigious raghukul.
Di this is bugging me but won't raghukul continue as urmila mandavi srutakirti also had children?
Oof with phone I am able to do only this posted doubts will try to post views when I get the laptop but it seems the wifi connection is not going to improve in the near furtue. Let's see 😆

@sanju who is a victim. Society perceives the victim as it pleases. And men know to play to this perception while woman don't. Even we woman at times side with men. When Shanta goes if you read my analysis I talk of Dasrath as a man caught between wanting to let go of daughter and then a heir to the throne and he chooses the later. So when Shanta goes it is poor Dasrath. Look at the choice he had, the daughter understood the father and went. Note shanta went on her volition, Dasrath didn't ask her to go.

Heir good point Di and in mb too we see that so I think u are right. And after ashwamedh yag if am not mistaken ram gives different provinces to his brother while he is king of ayodha so I guess the heirs of raghukul had to be his sons.
Dasharath too was in dilemma so was harishchandra but in such a case what did they did or the woman did was totally different from what ram does.
Thks for explaining

The flower scene was so beautiful Savitha I loved it. As you said maybe it meant, even if he doesn't open the door to her call, her surrender to him, her love to him will always be there. And that comes to fore when she requests mother earth not to end raghukul and she can come to her mother only after doing her duty of a mother.

Urmila dialogue was also beautiful
For us sisters u are like Lord shiva but u have done injustice to Sita. But it's not always what meets the eye.
The woman who let her husband go for 14 yrs for this brother from her PoV without knowing this leela. It would have required lot of courage to control herself.