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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Mano maybe the perception related to crimes and the whole nexus associated with a criminal brings him out. As if he goes a whole lot of others will also go into jail. But it is time we seriously looked into such cases where justice is denied. One good thing now is that unlike earlier times some verdict does stir discussion in the public forum. People are demanding justice now as the crime can happen to anyone and lack of punishment makes the criminals bolder. Look today another woman stabbed in Delhi


Seems so
Also in such cases often politicians gets involved😡

After Swati's case
Similar incidents occurred across TN in such a short span
Ramkumar brought many hidden Ramkumar's out🤢
Now after his death, atleast there will be some fear
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Posted: 9 years ago

20/09/2016

I have always told be careful with the words you use with Hari. He will make you eat your words. You will not have anything to say. That was what happened to Guru Vashisth and the queens when they questioned Ram. He tells each of them what they told when he asked them his problems. They gave him theory. Because they didn't know it involved the kulvadhu of Ayodhya, it involved the royal family, it involved Sita. The eyes of one dispensing justice is closed. It doesn't see who is at the receiving end. It only looks at the laws and the balance it needs to attain to pass the verdict. We have to see the balance of justice is in a lady's hand. Why. Because Prakriti she is the ultimate leveler who dispenses justice by observing one's karma and karma alone. Not gender, position or race.

Now the queens say listening to one dhobi you sacrificed your wife. For the desire of one king how many daughters of Ayodhya sacrificed including that of the royal palace. Did anybody raise fingers at Dasrath. No. When it is the king's desire Praja and everyone the king wishes has to abide. For Dasrath's personal need the families send their daughter's to death unwillingly. Now the justice has to be reversed. For one praja's question the Queen is send to exile where the king sacrificies his personal desire that of having a wife and child. He becomes a yogi and a sevak of Praja with no personal life of his own. That's what someone in power has to do. No personal interest, only seva. Dasrath did injustice to his praja as well as his daughter treating them dispensable for the sake of the son. And that son publicly brought out the hypocrisy of Ayodhya by sacrificing his wife for the reeti, neeti and the theoretical maryada of Raghukul taking the blame on himself. All men of Raghukul had escaped doing injustice. But actually without doing any injustice Ram takes the blame as he creates the perception of injustice done to Sita. Actually Sita sacrifice is the result of the Karma done by the Raghukul by selling of woman and child in the case of Harishchandra. Sending woman to woo rishi, marrying multiple times for the sake of child etc. All this is injustice done to Prakriti which is pushed under the carpet which Ram brings out. Kausalya says she cannot tolerate an injustice done to a mother. Where was she, when the daughters of Ayodhya were send to woo Rishisringa. Wasn't that injustice to the mother's of Ayodhya. Why only it becomes injustice when at the receiving end is the kulvadhu of palace.

Now Sita. She decides to kill herself as she feels being regarded impure there is no point in living. Lakshman remindes her the need to live. The life in her womb and Sita steps back. The symbol of her love with Ram cannot allow her to go. She has duty towards the child. She has to do both Patni dharma and the dharma of a queen in raising them properly. That's why she refuses Mother Earth when the mother calls her. And it is again her trust in Lakshman's words that Ram still loves her that makes her tell Mother Earth not to destroy Raghukul. Understand the importance of Vachan given to Sita. Raghukul is there only till the vachan to Sita is maintained by Ram in action. If he had broken it, then Prakriti would have taken action. That vachanpalan shows Prakriti Ram's love for Sita and the intend of his action. So Prakriti preserves Raghukul taking away only its ego.

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Posted: 9 years ago
Updated Chapter 88 Seven Vows. Read and comment
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Posted: 9 years ago
Another beautiful episode which brought out tears in the eyes of every family memeber in Ayodhya and Kulguru Vasishta ! It was with such a moving moment when Ram after giving each their answer,chocked with his emotion excuses himself with the word "Kshama"! And moves out of the scene. Ashish was too good !
Each of them stand shocked realising their unintentional words spoken that had lead him to this deep misery!
Vachan palan of the king of Ayodhya towards his praja results in inflicting a deep pain to their beloved king and the Vachan Palan of Raghunanadan towards his beloved Siya saves the Raghukul !!
Prakriti proves to be as benovalent as ever and the Sanskriti - praja had been selfish !
Being a King was that difficult when it was to be practiced with utmost perfection such as in RamRajya!
Seva bhav , samparpan which seemed to be a very essential part of Rajdharma when was practiced had been put to absolute test towards Ram which he did pass out whereas these seemed to have foresaken by their predecessors like Dasharsth and Harischandra who had done Vachan palan forsaking the Praja in the process!

Sad that the karma of his predecessors had to be paid off by Ram who had always tried to keep up and follow the path selflessly. Strange are the ways of karma indeed !


Wonderful analysis as always Shuti . Loved the way you connect the dots of Shantha, sita , Kaikeyi and Kausalya !
Edited by vipraja26 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Yes Vipraja. Ram does Vachan palan towards both his praja and his wife. That is why it is difficult to understand him. As we say strange are God's ways or a man who does actions that make him God.
Whereas people can relate easily to harishchandra and dasrath as they are the actions of humans driven by ego.
Ram asking Kshama was a classic scene and Ashish was too good
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Posted: 9 years ago
Wind I love wind. As I always say wind is element, and I feel suffocated in a place where wind is not there. Once again Pavanputra Hanuman comes. The son of wind god understand the feelings of Siya-Ram which cannot be seen by the society. He was the medium that connected them and once again he becomes the medium of their connection. Posting analysis soon.
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Posted: 9 years ago

21/09/2016

Today was another beautiful episode. Ram remains in the bandhan of Sanskriti which asks him to maintain the maryada of Sanskriti. And well the outer world is happy. They have won. Ram have sacrificed his wife. Their regressive thoughts can continue. What they don't see, what they don't understand is that in front of them he is Rajaram, but behind the curtains he is Siyaram. Yes to everyone in the palace it looks Sita is left alone in forest. Yesterday I put sending Lakshman with Sita was making him to feel the guilt as Lord Hari, but as king that was the best diplomatic move. Using the person who has followed all his orders the king creates the beautiful perception of Sita sacrifice for the society. Lakshman represents Ram's sevak from the perspective of Sanskriti. He is the incarnation of Adisesha who has to suck the poison from the minds of people. So the process of sucking the poison out starts from him. As poison wont affect him how much ever he takes it out as he is Adisesha who has the capacity to hold only the deadly poison within him and do the seva of Vishnu in preserving the world.

Now behind the curtains Ram calls his sevak Hanuman who is the representative of Prakriti. He entrusts Siya to the cradle of Prakriti. And who is Hanuman, Rudra himself. By supporting Sita, by bringing Valmiki and ensuring Sita is taken to Valmiki Ashram Hanuman gives the right nurture to Sita to begin the process of destruction of Ayodhya's hypocrisy. The child in Sita's womb gets the best care. She is in the most peaceful atmosphere. Ayodhya doesn't know where Sita is. But Ram he gets the information of how his wife is doing periodically from his sevak Hanuman. He knows where she is.

And look at what he tells Hanuman. Never make Sita aware of his pain. Why. Sita is pregnant. Any negative feelings she has can affect the unborn child. She has to remain happy, content and peaceful for the sake of the life growing inside her. And Hanuman abides by it. He becomes Maruti for his Sita Mata.

Now why does Valmiki introduces Sita as Vandevi in the ashram. Ashram also has representative of Sanskriti. You never know how sanskriti will behave when they know the truth. Hence it is better to bring her as a lonely pregnant woman who needs support in the ashram. I loved the way Valmiki spoke to Sita. He recognizes Mahalakshmi which people of Ayodhya didn't . We have to know even when Sita comes to Lanka the people of Lanka realizes she is something special including Kaikasi, Mandodari and Sulochana. That shows where Ayodhya is even below the so called adharmi Lanka.

Valmiki tells the woman on whose arrival the whole of Mithila blossomed, the woman who made Dasrathnandan Ram, Maryadapurushottam Ram can never be impure. Her feet will always bring prosperity wherever she goes. In the ashram he says from today she is going to be the annapoorneshwari of the ashram. That shows how much Valmiki revers Mahalakshmi. Why Valmiki is able to rever Sita. Why Sanskriti's kalank thought doesn't affect him. Because he is a man who had lot of bad deeds behind him. But with his tapasya he gained knowledge and wrote Ramayan. So he knows it is your deeds that make you good or bad. Even people who have done bad deeds can become good if they sincerely repent and surrender to Lord. So Sita who has not done any wrong action can never be impure.

Janak coming to Ayodhya. I loved the way Kausalya, Vashisth everyone stood with their head bowed. No one could answer him. What will they answer. They stood in silent in front of a woman's father who has come to enquire about his pregnant daughter. Ayodhya needs it. The society which thinks woman is dispensable is unable to look at the face of the man who has sent his daughter to Ayodhya trusting Raghukul. Their double standards are out, their hypocrisy is out as there is no justification for Sita sacrifice.

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Posted: 9 years ago
Updated Chapter 89 Seven Vows. Read and comment
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Posted: 9 years ago
Maruti helping sita mata was a very interesting point . Showed the care that Siya ke Ram was taking in his special manner with his most trusted Sevak ! And Janak's entry was a very interesting point . Though one should but expect him as the news would have travelled far and wide !
Confrontation tomorrow would sure be an interesting scene .
Maharishi Valmiki's charecter has been very beautifully portrayed , loved the way he is able to see the (unseeable ) truth - those that are not visible to the eyes of the world ! the other day the way he sees Maharani Sita in sanyasi form , the way he identifies Maruti , the manner in which he sees the plight of sita !
Guess now the tone of Vasishta has been bought down ! Ayodhaya sure is facing the effects of losing their precious MAHALAKSHMI . No one is happy .

On the whole , a turbulent time in its own way . Praja is still unaware of the effects but soon will begin to realise though !
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Posted: 9 years ago
Hi everyone how are you all doing?
I love skr and want to contribute to this forum, especially since the current track started. But alas time has been a big constraint last few months

I just came to say something. Today Janak came to confront Ram. But when he goes to Rams room unannounced in tomorrow's episode and sees the way Ram lives, his views will change, though he will still ask (perhaps) that if there was no place for Sita in ayodhya why dint he send her to mithila?

But I do feel his sense of indignation n breaking of trust in Ram - all this will get subdued by seeing the way ram lives and his own condition without his siya

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