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Posted: 9 years ago
@ DD, at this moment I can't make a longer post with broader analysis but just one thing I wanted to tell. Sita didn't come in front of the bird to test its identity but to distract the bird from attacking Lakshman and to give Lakshman the necessary time to pick up his bow and aim at the bird.
And Jatayu was more convinced that the 3 are mayavi's as Lakshman imprisoned him with his astra. Had Lakshman wanted, he could have killed the bird but he just bind that in a web of net. despite the vulture was trying to harm them, Lakshman was not not ready to kill it but the moment he realized that it was a mayavi bird, he was furious and tried to use his knife.
Sita understood that Jatayu is a vulture and eats only meat and the look on brothers was worth watching. lets see what Sita will offer as food to Jatayu.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


Geena saashtaang sweekar karein aap mera 😃

@red.. Both ways the girl is defamed. Chahe aise chahe waise.
But is surpankha's stance good in the long run? Is ayodhya's stand good in the long run?


The answer to both questions is a big NO.

And who has to prove this? The person who understands prakriti and the ideal balance of prakriti sanskriti. That is sita.

Surpankha's nose chopped off. Sita is abducted.

Dhobi's girl denied justice. Sita is banished.


I had written this yday but it didn't get posted 😡

Geena we are forgetting smthn very crucial. That's the principle of "ek" "anek" which ayodhya thrives on. For the betterment of anek, ek is punished. And very ironically the ones who suffer are women.

Am here reminded of Ram's dialogue. "Hum purush sadaiva ek aawaran mein jeete hai" he acknowledges the fact that women are stronger than men. They have that much patience, strength and capability to prove themselves. That might be kaushalya, Shanta, sita, urmila, Dhobi's girl or anybody else.

And this is where "agnipariksha" dialogue of janaka fits.

This whole scenario is a stark contrast to Lanka.

This stems from their ideologies or rather the kind of civilization.

Was Lanka ever based on "ek" "anek" concept? Even if it was it would have been exact ulta.

The opinion of that person on surpankha might also have been other's opinion.. Might be everyone thot the same about her. The man was symbolic of majority. But what happened? The man was punished.

Actually its very interesting, am loving the way SKR is showing it. Things are not black and white. But somehow they have made Lanka black and ayodhya/mithila white. And together they depict human psychology. Forgetting for a minute that these are stories, if we keenly observe them they give a glimpse of human mind. As there was ram and ravan at the same time in the history of mankind, ram and ravan coexist in a human being always. At times, one scores more, the other less. And this gives the greyness to human beings.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: deejagi

@ DD, at this moment I can't make a longer post with broader analysis but just one thing I wanted to tell. Sita didn't come in front of the bird to test its identity but to distract the bird from attacking Lakshman and to give Lakshman the necessary time to pick up his bow and aim at the bird.

And Jatayu was more convinced that the 3 are mayavi's as Lakshman imprisoned him with his astra. Had Lakshman wanted, he could have killed the bird but he just bind that in a web of net. despite the vulture was trying to harm them, Lakshman was not not ready to kill it but the moment he realized that it was a mayavi bird, he was furious and tried to use his knife.
Sita understood that Jatayu is a vulture and eats only meat and the look on brothers was worth watching. lets see what Sita will offer as food to Jatayu.


Okay jaya..

But what took my analysis was that one dialogue by sita. She said smthn when jatayu is trapped.. Like see he didn't attack me. To which jatayu replies that he doesnt kill women.

I guess I need to rewatch 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


Okay jaya..

But what took my analysis was that one dialogue by sita. She said smthn when jatayu is trapped.. Like see he didn't attack me. To which jatayu replies that he doesnt kill women.

I guess I need to rewatch 😆

No that dialogue was a repeat from what Jatayu's brother Sampathi told him earlier when he was set to hunt the 3 demons in disguise of human. His brother knew his nature that jatayu don't kill women, so he advises him to forget his principles fro once and get him some food otherwise he may loose his breath.😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
Janhavi ,this SKR has indeed been an excellent visual bonanza for us .The writing has most often been at par or even enhancing the scenes. I have tried to describe the colors and their significance of the three major places in the serial. I also realized that it would be incomplete if I don't correlate it to three gunas, so here goes:
MITHILA
The colors of Mithila reflects the nature of its king and his subjects. The drought ridden earth forces a king to make a golden plough {here gold represents both purity of thoughts and sanctity of actions}that is needed to pacify both the Earth and the unrelenting power of the sun. First the earth shows her appreciation by giving the king her child wrapped in Red symbolizing an auspicious beginning as well a blessing; then the sky reinforces this by letting the much needed rain to engulf the whole of Mithila. The King and Queen are in tones of Ivory and beige that again stand for calmness and simplicity.
The palace is completely enveloped in various forms of the tones of the earth and nature. It has brown as its main component and brown stands for simplicity, comfort, Stability, endurance. The other colors that are often repeated in the dcor are sandle wood yellow and maroon; the yellow symbolizing learning and the maroon ,is all about confidence and strength. The golden color used in the dcor and ornaments are muted in tone{except the pre marriage and post marriage scenes in Mithila} completely in tune with the muted tones of the inhabitants' attire. The green fields represents harmony, peace and prosperity. And Janhavi, how can we forget the mountain summit scene between Ram and Sita with the pink{acceptance and tenderness}, orange{balance and warmth} and yellow{idealism and hope} sky. Really a visual treat wasn't it?
Now looking at the colors and the general demeanor of its people, we can easily correlate it with the Sattvika Guna for its balance and moderation.
Ayodhya
The fluidity of Mithila gives way to the rigidity of Ayodhya, both in its structure and demeanor. The palace made of stone seems to embody the qualities of endurance and strength. The colors both in dcor and attires are bolder, vivid and bright. The muted gold tone {representing enlightenment}of Mithila changes to the stronger gold{representing energy prosperity, wealth, prestige} in Ayodhya.The queens' wear more vivid colors. The colors like dark Blue{represents vastness, sincerity, reserved} and even darker purple{ representing a mix of the energy of red and the spirituality of blue}are used often.
All these tones and hues correlate to the Rajas guna for its energy and vibrance.
LANKA
The palace seems to made of dark grey stone representing isolation and strength. The ocean surrounding Lanka is a turbulent, violent and unrelenting amalgamation of blue and grey with no discerning color. All its main inhabitants are attired in black or colors with darker hues. Black in its extremity often stands for unapproachability as well as intimidation. Even the brighter attire of its queen and some other ladies is overshadowed by the dark minds and even darker actions of Ravan and his cohorts. The gold unlike in Mithila and Ayodhya takes on a hard excessive glitter highlighting its egoistic and evil aspect.
These tones correlate to the 'tamas guna'.
One more thing I noticed was the Raj sabha in all these three places. The raj sabha of Mithila has skylights with the sun beaming in softly and the seats are closer to the earth symbolizing a perfect communion of knowledge ,power and spirituality.
In Ayodhya it is well lit and the sun shines with more intensity and energy. The seats are higher than in Mithila, but the feet still touches the ground symbolizing the balance between power and righteousness.
In lanka it was quite dark and gloomy with the seats on a very high plane symbolizing that power exists without righteousness or even knowledge.
I hope I have given you a lucid post on the significance of colors, Janhavi.
Savita


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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: deejagi

No that dialogue was a repeat from what Jatayu's brother Sampathi told him earlier when he was set to hunt the 3 demons in disguise of human. His brother knew his nature that jatayu don't kill women, so he advises him to forget his principles fro once and get him some food otherwise he may loose his breath.😆


I missed the 10 mins jaya..

It wasn't jatayu's dialogue.. It was sita's dialogue just prior to his words that he doesnt kill women..

Sita had smthn on the lines that she knew he won't kill her or smthn...

I concluded that she wanted to c if he's genuine or not. And that dialogue confirms it. But again I need to rewatch it 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


I missed the 10 mins jaya..

It wasn't jatayu's dialogue.. It was sita's dialogue just prior to his words that he doesnt kill women..

Sita had smthn on the lines that she knew he won't kill her or smthn...

I concluded that she wanted to c if he's genuine or not. And that dialogue confirms it. But again I need to rewatch it 😆

Yes she said even though he could have killed her when she offered herself to distract the bird from Lakshman. She came to its direct view & path, he didn't attack her. that's why she felt the bird might not be that evil.
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Posted: 9 years ago
hi all..
something just occurred to me.. donno if it makes sense or not..
Sita set herself as a bait to jatayu.. enabling laxman to attack him..
tomorrow she will bait herself (assuming she is Laxmi n is performing a leela) so that Ram can kill Ravan
does this make sense?
Savita.. take a bow lady.. marvelous explanation on colors.. r u not well? please tc n get well soon
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sshirley

hi all..

something just occurred to me.. donno if it makes sense or not..
Sita set herself as a bait to jatayu.. enabling laxman to attack him..
tomorrow she will bait herself (assuming she is Laxmi n is performing a leela) so that Ram can kill Ravan
does this make sense?
Savita.. take a bow lady.. marvelous explanation on colors.. r u not well? please tc n get well soon


@bold perfect mujhe yahi kehna tha... I did it gol gol u attacked on the face 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


@bold perfect mujhe yahi kehna tha... I did it gol gol u attacked on the face 😆

No she was not even aware that the sanyasi who asked for alms was a Demon or to be precise Ravan. Since it is custom to give the alms by coming out of the threshold, she fell for Ravan's those words that he can't accept the alms while she is in the threshold limit (Lakshman Rekha as he could not cross that rekha). The only thing she did boldly was that she believed too much in Sanyasi & her stri dharma which says no sanyasi to go empty handed after asking for alms. She knew she may fall prey to something if she cross the line but she took the calculative risk by underestimating the demon power.

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