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Posted: 9 years ago

The spiritual meaning of number eleven is quite diverse. The number eleven is thought of as a "master" number in numerology because it is a double digit of the same number. When this occurs - the vibration frequency of the prime number doubles in power. Meaning, the attributes of the Number One are doubled.

Therefore, the very basic and primary understanding of the Number One is that of new beginnings and purity. When we see this digit doubled as with the eleven - then these attributes double in strength.


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11 also stands for equality of male and female. That is both su n energy and moon energy exists.


11 basically deals directly with our involvement into the progression of life...


As I had earlier said 11 is a higher version of 2 also.


,number 2 stands for balance, harmony, mediation.


"Ek se bhale do" is my interpretation.


Two eyes, two ears, two hands, two legs, two kidneys..


In a relationship 2 ppl..


Two wheels of a chariot..


2 indeed is peace, harmony, emotions and balance..


What makes 11 different is the use of '1' twice. '1'stands for independence, originality, power, creativity.


And when '1' is used twice the vibration or frequency is amplified. "Manifestations"


That's also a reason that the month "November" has special significance.. The ppl having this no. specially in their charts anyhow tend to manifest what they think.. "November" is a month (acco. to scientific research) relates to 'depression' very easily.. It is said that the ppl born during this month, the hormones that govern the 'happiness' aren't released and that's the reason u may find November born folks to be over-thinkers, deep, gloomy, aloof and introspective. "Unpredictability" is smthn u can very well associate with this month.

Why I brought in "november" because its the 11th month.. As I said 11 is manifestation.. Plus ppl born in November are mostly inclined towards "depression" the effects get amplified.. '11' is a master no. ( first of the series 11,22,33).


11 also relates to "enlightenment". This is possible because of the high vibration quality associated to it... " enlightenment " of masses is psbl only when the thoughts, emotions, knowledge is amplified and manifested into the greater good. And "11" has this quality already imbibed in it..

In a nutshell do whatever with it, positive or negative '11' is going to multiply and present it.. So "every action has equal and opp reaction" 😉 might not be true with 11... "What u think u get it back 1000 times" is more apt for 11..


August has many birthdays

February has few

Serial killers are born in November 😉 😆

Edited by daydreamers - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: sshirley

Today's epi was nice.. Why no one commenting on it


i have to cover numbers...😆 u continue shirley..

the episode was wow...😃
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


i have to cover numbers...😆 u continue shirley..

the episode was wow...😃

Precisely!! It was wow!! That's exactly why I don't wanna touch it since I won't be able to bring out the essence. Don't have your kinda patience
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Posted: 9 years ago
Now we have started having episodes with the power of three😉-Panchvati, Kishkinda and Lanka. Panchvati has three main people - Ram, Sita and Lakshman:Kishkinda has Sugreev, Tara and Roma{since Vali is stuck in the cave} and Lanka seems to be having Ravan, Meghnadh and Sumali.Ram represents our soul, Sita is our mind and Lakshman is the spiritual energy in all of us. Each one of them is strong individually but together they are unbeatable.Sugreev represents the lack of self-confidence in some situations,Tara{like Shruthi said }a lack of trust in her own instinct and Roma is the question' what next'...the way she deduces the next step and asks her father to help Sugreev is commendable}.Vali stands for arrogance which will be his downfall in the future.Ravan represents ego, Meghnadh -a blind trust in his father and Sumali is ambition at its extreme. If we are being truthful,all of us would have glimpsed these traits in ourselves at some point of our lives. Writers -thank you for putting us in a contemplative mood...but could you fast forward a little to get to the main story😆.
It is rare to see a glimpse of divinity in humans, but it is rarer to see the divinity exhibit the some quirks of us humans...😊Sita wants to know why her husband is late, on getting his answer that He was saving the life of a woman:the first question that comes to her mind is whether the woman was beautiful.The whole convo. between them was humorous in a good way.
Ram gets into the water to reach the lotus which represents our souls realizing themselves by God's touch. He takes them into his care ,but some of them fall out of his basket and when touched by Shoorpanaka who stands for bad thoughts and actions, lose their enlightenment.
This reminds me of Krishna stealing the butter and breaking the pots. Both actions have the same symbolism.
Today Sita does meet with Shoorpanaka,but we have to wait till tomm to see their reactions to each other. Ravan wants his son to be his able minister than an submissive son...the Irony is when Meghnadh becomes one and counsels his father to return Sita to her husband,Ravan wants a submissive son...
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


The spiritual meaning of number eleven is quite diverse. The number eleven is thought of as a "master" number in numerology because it is a double digit of the same number. When this occurs - the vibration frequency of the prime number doubles in power. Meaning, the attributes of the Number One are doubled.

Therefore, the very basic and primary understanding of the Number One is that of new beginnings and purity. When we see this digit doubled as with the eleven - then these attributes double in strength.


EDITED:


11 also stands for equality of male and female. That is both su n energy and moon energy exists.


11 basically deals directly with our involvement into the progression of life...


As I had earlier said 11 is a higher version of 2 also.


,number 2 stands for balance, harmony, mediation.


"Ek se bhale do" is my interpretation.


Two eyes, two ears, two hands, two legs, two kidneys..


In a relationship 2 ppl..


Two wheels of a chariot..


2 indeed is peace, harmony, emotions and balance..


What makes 11 different is the use of '1' twice. '1'stands for independence, originality, power, creativity.


And when '1' is used twice the vibration or frequency is amplified. "Manifestations"


That's also a reason that the month "November" has special significance.. The ppl having this no. specially in their charts anyhow tend to manifest what they think.. "November" is a month (acco. to scientific research) relates to 'depression' very easily.. It is said that the ppl born during this month, the hormones that govern the 'happiness' aren't released and that's the reason u may find November born folks to be over-thinkers, deep, gloomy, aloof and introspective. "Unpredictability" is smthn u can very well associate with this month.

Why I brought in "november" because its the 11th month.. As I said 11 is manifestation.. Plus ppl born in November are mostly inclined towards "depression" the effects get amplified.. '11' is a master no. ( first of the series 11,22,33).


11 also relates to "enlightenment". This is possible because of the high vibration quality associated to it... " enlightenment " of masses is psbl only when the thoughts, emotions, knowledge is amplified and manifested into the greater good. And "11" has this quality already imbibed in it..

In a nutshell do whatever with it, positive or negative '11' is going to multiply and present it.. So "every action has equal and opp reaction" 😉 might not be true with 11... "What u think u get it back 1000 times" is more apt for 11..


August has many birthdays

February has few

Serial killers are born in November 😉 😆


Edited to add... 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
Thanks a lot DD for the numbers. I want to write more on numbers. But will come to that. When Sita says the lotus flowers are withered I knew that they will be the ones touched by Surpi. And today they showed the flowers withering in surpi's hand. Not withering, but burning. And Surpi takes the anger at the flowers.
And Sita she takes flowers and the flowers flourish in her hand. What is the difference between 2 woman. Why flower flourishes in one hand and while it burns in another's hand. As I said yesterday lotus is the symbol of prosperity the flower in which sits Mahalakshmi.
Burning of Lotus signifies the place where a woman like surpi exists that place will be devoid of wealth and power. Or rather she will burn the wealth and power there.
But is it surpi's fault alone that it happens or her ecosystem is also responsible. This is where Aginpareeksha of Sita gains significance. Because that lotus burning has lot to do with surpi's ecosystem and the way surpi dealt with it and Sita's greatness can come only when she is send in such an ecosystem.
Look at Sita. She is a woman who has been loved and respected lot at her home. She is Janak's pride and sunaina's dulari. Cut to her sasural once again she is Ram's pride, love of Kausalya, Kaikeyi and Sumitra, And in vanvass Ram and Lakshman does everything in their power to keep her happy. She is respected and loved. Sita has grown in an environment of love, moved to a environment of love and infact she has never experienced an ecosystem devoid of love. What Kaikeyi did didn't affect her much as she is with Ram and also Bharath removed all the problems that came with her. Once again the power of love was proved to her. So Sita believes in true love and her ecosystem has made her always believe in true love. A path of duty.
Look at Surpi. She has grown up in an environment with restrictions. If Sita was given knowledge and knew her maryada, surpi had no access to knowledge but only restrictions. And she broke the bandhan once and married a man. But the truth that the man never loved her and had used her made her lose faith in true love. For her everything is material, something to be used for attaining some personal gratification. Even the lotus flowers she is not coming to them to enjoy their beauty or use them in any appropriate way, she just need lotus flowers as a means to satisfy her lust. The fire of desires is burning inside surpi, her need to satisfy the desires, use all the means that is available to her for that purpose as that is what she has seen in lanka. And the fire of desire in a woman, burns her and her kul one way or the other. It is the fire of Mahatwakamsha a need to get power which is denied to her in Lanka that makes surpi do what she is doing.
It happens with Kaikeyi. The need of power. The need to feel in control. But she is shown her place by Bharath. But surpi, surpi will make use of the vachan Ravan gave her to get her enticing toy. And result vinash.
Now let us come to Sita. Sita is taken to surpi's ecosystem. She is kept as a captive in Lanka. She is in a very hostile environment. Instead of love, she sees all type of desires around. She will see adharma in all forms. She will be emotionally tortured using many methods. When Sita gives the AP it is the proof that the fire of the ecosystem in Lanka has not been absorbed by Sita. Even that fire raged outside, her heart was always surrendered to Ram. His love. Her faith in love. She reflects the ecosystem. Surpi absorbed the ecosystem and her actions became black. Sita reflects the ecosystem and her actions became white.
It clearly shows a woman with the right knowledge whichever ecosystem you put her in, she will not succumb to the ecosystem as she knows what is right and what is wrong. Such a woman will always take the pride of her family to a new height. When she comes out of AP it is not only Ram's love that is vindicated, but also Janaka's pride. She calls herself Janaknandini and wife of Ram when she is in Lanka.
As I said lotus blooms in mud, but it stands above mud. Even in the hostile terrain of Lanka, Sita blooms like a lotus, and even in the beautiful loving terrain of Panchavati Surpi burns with desire.
Keeping women away from right knowledge, denying their rights to them will one day make a Kaikeyi or a surpi take the extreme step bringing down the fall of a family, its culture. Ramayan shows it very clearly.
SKR once again highlights the importance of education of a girl child. Because in her education lies the benefit of 2 families.
Now cut to Ravan-Bali fiasco. Ravan says in direct battle the opponent's adisakthi comes to bali. So he knew the only way to defeat Bali is by doing indirect attack. Bali's lack of knowledge is that people can do indirect battle with him as that is the only way to defeat him. Because Ram does the same. Mistake of Meghanad as I said is he put the strategy in motion when both brother's were together. He separates the brothers. But the benefit of that separation is going for Ram as Ram attacks Bali when he had one brother solidly by his side.
Now Meghnad. I loved his line. I wanted to be a good son to you. He wanted to meet all of his father's expectation. And what does Ravan say. I want a good minister. Once again we see Meghnad valuing relation, while Ravan he is just checking the usefulness of the material for him. For Meghand Ravan is his father, but for Ravan Meghnad is something which he will have till he has the use of it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Though not related to this. I wanted to put one thing more. I watched the movie Neerja yesterday. The last scene where Neerja takes the bullets from the terrorists covering the three kids was really heart breaking. But what I liked about the movie was the girl's presence of mind. First when she succeeds to send the pilots out, then asking that radio engineer not to show up, not taking American passports and finally in the mayhem opening the emergency door.
And she had a past. Neerja was a domestically abused wife in her marriage. A marriage from which she escaped. A girl whose MIL told she is of no use because she doesn't do household chores properly.
And I felt that marriage, her sufferings in her marriage and her running away from gave the girl the learning to do what she did on that flight.
Getting shouted at, beaten and asked to obey commands would never have been new to her. She would have known that in her marriage. And the girl in the marriage would have tried every way to escape it, every opportunity, on a constant look out to escape her captive life. That looking for opportunity she maintained in the flight also.
And at the cost of her life her knowledge saved 359 lives. The girl whom a unknown mother in law told not good for anything became immortal by the bitter experience her husband's family gave her. In her suffering she gave fresh lease of life to 359 people.
Receipent of Ashoka Chakra and Padmashri and an award for bravery constituted in her name the girl inspires you. Making you believe don't succumb to sufferings. Fight it, learn from it. You never know when your learning will be put to use. Don't listen to anyone who call you useless. Have self belief.
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Posted: 9 years ago
I have my own interpretations on numbers but no tym so simply copied 😆
I have a doubt was it 11 day war or 15 days? Cz I read smwer 15 days.. @shivam pls confirm this..

I also want to write on lotus..

Maybe next thread 😆

11 and 7 are very close to me.. And also 8..

Cz my life path is 7. Destiny is 8 and birth month is 11 😆

And a blue lotus has 8 petals if am not wrong...

The petals close for water circulation... Bloom in the sunshine..

"Keechad se kamal bankar khilne ka karma sikhaayegi" I love this line from star MB first epi. ( it won't be word to word but I remember Krishna had mentioned keechad and Kamal.. Another pt that he had said was..

"Ye katha nahi hai iccha aur mahatvakanksha ke sangarsh ki. Katha nahi hai iss sangarsh se utpann hone wale bhayavah raktapaat ki. Ye katha hai uss hriday ki peeda se utpann hone wale gyaan ki"

Again I need to really watch that again.. The opening lines of star MB were phenomenal..

And this is where 7,8,11 and lotus fit..

Lotus struggles from the mud to bloom in the sunshine.. Sun: knowledge.

Number 7 also stands for introspection, struggle and spiritual essence...

The scene where sita says "ye keval 7 Kamal pushpa hai" recall what she did before.. She was removing the dead flowers.. And she introspected, a doubt surfaced.. Is this a signal towards the impeding catastrophe? And 7 deals with doubts, curiosity and most importantly seeking TRUTH... Mark the word 'truth' Cz for 7s the Truth is the ultimate truth. Not his version or her version.. Its the universal and eternal truth.. And the "dead" lotus is smthn that makes sita question the "prakriti" which is eternal. Unlike others she's seeking 'ultimate' truth..

Number 8 is associated with Jupiter.. 8 is complex.. It does has a lot of struggle associated with it but it also has "Command".

Juz as the size of Jupiter 8 gives u larger than life... If u also c the shape u may tend to go in circles repeating things... 8 is extravagance and ABUNDANT..

I really want to c how these 8 petals change shurpi and siya..

We were on 7.. We went on 8... What sita got from ram is love and respect in abundance... " vo stree mujhse adheek sundar thi?"

As sita introspected with the 7 flowers.. She went to bring the other 4 as she needed 11. But what happens is she comes across shurpi who is busy burning flowers 😆 now c the fb.. Sita recalls her doubts.. "11" is manifestation and her doubts are getting amplified.. She wants to seek the ultimate truth thru 7 and wants to enlighten the mankind with "11" as I said 11 is also enlightenment.. But fir that she needs 4 flowers..

4 is a no. which gives u a solid figure always.. 4 corners, 4 pillars, 4 sides.. But '4' is also the no. of earth... The ppl who have 4 are down to earth, hard working and humble.. They have to face a lot of struggle in their initial yrs to reach where they are. Classic examples are Oprah Winfrey and tabu ( am not very sure of tabu, but her dob is 4 I ges).
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Posted: 9 years ago
I did watch neerja yesterday shruthi .. And ditto.. I actually loved the parallels they drew between those scenes... It made relatable.. One at home other on flight... The movie was "wow" all the way.. I felt sonam cud have done better or Atleast some one else was taken..
Neerja's life is inspiring... Her presence of mind... And especially her mother... My gawd!!! 😭
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And yea shruthi meghnad ravan scene was a treat.
I don't know but am here reminded of ashwathama and drona. Especially of the fact that ashwathama wanted to take the benefit of drona's posn. Drona drupad dynamics.. And drona did everything for his son... Am not sure of what was in original. But I saw smthn like this in Star MB. There was love. Undoubtedly. But it took the face of "moh".

I c a similar scene with ravan megh now. Especially ravan's
"mahatvakanksha" which will prove fatal for meghnad. The way ashwathama's desires made drona more or less like a villain..

Megh could have been good.. But his desire to ve a good son and dedication to the person who was drowned in the sea of ego and pride.. Again am reminded of "karna". His dedication to " adharma" made him the culprit..

Am reminded of "pot" and "mud" here. Ravan said am glad u r learning various ways now.. Juz like lakshman who was anaadi in terms of prakriti was moulded by sita.. The pot making by sita and ram also signified this for me.. Both have moulded lakshman in the right way. Now cut to meghnad. Who's still in the learning phase.. He's getting trained and moulded in a pot by nanashree and ravan.. But they mould him with adharma..

Am reminded here of janaka's dialogue.. " humare parivar ki jadey prem se poshit hai" smthn like this when sunaina is missing the girls.. Episode on "ripples".

Now cut to ravan.. There's no prem. No moh.. There's no son. There's only a puppet which can take him to the destination of the most powerful person.. I now want to c what will happen when megh is killed...

I don't know why but the latest promo gave me some vibes on equations changing.. What do u think shruthi?

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