SKR:Of loops and symbolisms: 25/03- P.142-TRUTH - Page 9

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@DD beautiful updates especially that of life and fate. I really loved your take. Now coming to fear and intuition of Kaikasi. You cannot call it fear, it is still intuition only. You can call it negative intuition. Positive intuition is the one which Sita had. The anubhooti. The negative intuition is the knowledge of an adverse fate which both the women Kaikasi and Mandodari were feeling. If you see two powerful forces are trying to protect Ravan. One by his mother and the other wife.

Mandodari and Sita are at par as far as chastity goes. They both are Panch Kanyas. So is Urmila and Sulochana wife of Meghanadh. So it is not just the battle of men, it is also the battle of these women's loyalty towards their husband. It will be interesting to see how the balance gets tilted in favour of Lakshman and Ram.

One thing you need to see is Gargi's blessing and then Sita's scene with Bhoomi. Gargi says all her wishes come true. If you remember as a child Sita had the wish of staying in forest. And yes that wish of hers come true. And then she talks about returning to Bhoomi . At that moment Sita choose her fate, because she wished Mother Earth to come to her, when she feels tired. So even before something happens she puts her wish and that wish had to come true. It also shows how much careful we have to be when we speak something, especially negative affirmation. It is said that Maa Saraswati can say Tadasthu. So allow yourself to think and speak positive affirmation. Here Gargi's ashirvaad became a curse by Sita's own words of choosing her wish of Mother Earth to come.

Now coming to the fact that every woman is degraded for the end of adharma, actually the problem there is patriarchy not the epic themselves. In the name of Ram and Shyam men with half knowledge have twisted the epics to have their superiority, not to take accountability and subjudicate women. In the mess real Ram and Shyam have been lost somewhere.

And men who are empathetic like them are degraded. It's time to bring to light the suffering of men also who had the right values, give them the centre stage and push the pseudo Ram and Psuedo Shyam from the stage.

For that the epics have to be seen from the eyes of a woman with empathy. Because Sita was empathetic, even Panchali . Even after suffering so much she gave her husband's a second chance and her husband's knew the pain she had undergone and fought for her.

Patriarchy wants to give upper hand to men like Ravan and Dusshahan. Hence they are reducing Ram and Arjun to the 3rd grade men in the current society. It needs to be pushed back.

Originally posted by: avalonhigh1234

Great analysis DD.I have also always been more empathetic towards Sita than Ram. Somehow the 'agni pareeksha' prasang and the 'Uttar kand' needed me to grow up a little more and expand my mind to fully comprehend their essence and accept Ram's stand .Vishnu had accepted a sage's curse ,when he had to kill the sage's wife for protecting the asuras,that on his taking the human avatar he would also be separated from his wife. Seen from this perspective maybe both Ram and Sita knew their fate and accepted it. Sita speaks to her birth mother perhaps for the first time ,at least consciously. She expresses her gratefulness to mother Earth for nurturing her and thus blessing her with so much good fortune. Then she entreats her to come to her help when she is tired and defeated from the trials and tribulations in her life. She is married to a man of her choice and she is embarking on a journey with him, what is that {intuition or subconscious mind} forces her to make such a plea at such a happy time? What does the tears in Ram's eyes indicate? Could it be because of the fact that they were aware of the difficult path they had chosen and that it would lead this perfect couple to live away from each other in the future? Two big loops were open today both culminating only near the end of their journey. For once I would like to see these loops closed with detailed answers.

Savita

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Yes DD. Sita's wish to go to forest was shown in SKR. It is the childhood epi of Sita, I guess the epi where she comes to take Gargi to Yajgyavalka's ashram.

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@DD talking about pivot, shaft and operator another symbolism came to my mind. Actually that scene was ignored, not given a second thought apart from Ram's showing of emphathy. But when your symbolism post, that scene has stuck out and it is in a very different way. Let me explain.

Janak says Sita has choosen them as parents. How did Janak get the baby. By tilling the land. And if you remember in the first epi a sanyasi asks Raja Janak yes you are taking care of your subjects, but what have you done for Prakriti. Do it and Prakriti will come in front of you.

It's then Raja Janak takes all the ornaments and makes a golden tilling instrument and tills the land. If you see he draws the line perfect and the baby comes.

So Sita choose a man who is connected with nature, who knows how to deal with land and prakriti in a perfect manner as her father. She learnt from him and became his reflection Janaki

Now the scene I am talking about. There is a scene where Ram tries to help a old lady to till the land. And that lady keeps on giving him instructions. This is not right, this is not right, do it this way, do it that way. And without completing the task Ram has to go as Lakshman comes and tells him Vishwamitra is calling him. Ram says to the lady he has not succeeded in tilling the land, but he will try again.

Not the point not succeeded in tilling the land, but willing to try, willing to put effort. So Ram is a man who has not yet understood Prakriti, but is willing to put effort to understand Prakriti. So Sita is actually choosing a man who is willing to put effort to understand Prakriti as her husband.

Then it is their journey. A journey where at every turn he is tested by Prakriti's unpredictability. Every turn Prakriti trusting him to correct the mistake and move forward. And every time she suffers for his mistakes, and he suffers not able to understand her better. Each time he tries harder. Each time new challenge is thrown at him.

And when Prakriti feels yes it is enough to challenge and when she feels he can draw the line, her role is over and she returns to the womb, leaving with him her foot prints, their children