SKR:Of loops and symbolisms: 25/03- P.142-TRUTH

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Posted: 9 years ago

#101

Originally posted by: adi2512
@DD. Shruthi,
Thoroughly enjoying this thread, excellent posts...

Too tied up to participate., however I confess, the points and explanations you girls bring out are pretty extensive , there is hardly anything that remains to be added.

So, even if I'am unable to add anything to same, I make it a point to go thru' all the posts, daily w/o fail 😊

Thank you adi, for taking out tym from your busy schedule to read our posts... It truly means a lot 😃

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Thank you Janvi. No you were not butting in really. Both u n Shruthi are like two sides of a coin. Both of u are insightful n have no problem with imparting knowledge n wisdom. Actually now I look forward more for your posts than watching the episodes. Thank you.😊

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Originally posted by: gmgi
Thank you Janvi. No you were not butting in really. Both u n Shruthi are like two sides of a coin. Both of u are insightful n have no problem with imparting knowledge n wisdom. Actually now I look forward more for your posts than watching the episodes. Thank you.😊

May I know your name?

Its pretty tricky to answer that question u c.. I feel I can't do justice to it...

You may either take it two ways either practically or philosophically.. Wen u merge up these two it becomes confusing... And am doing that.. So I won't be able to clarify much...

Again ur reply has an answer to your question... 'Two sides of a coin'.

Relate it to your question, u'll get it.. One side is practical that lakshmi already knew and so she said it. The other is philosophical that she wished and it happened...

Am so grateful... Thank you for reading our posts daily... Actually am a bit this sort of person who gets discouraged wen no one replies...😆

I don't know about the symbolisms that I present.. But shruthi definitely has a way with it... 😛

Am more of short-tempered, impatient and over thinker 😆 These qualities superbly affect my personality.. So am making an effort to understand this show to make my life blissful...

My anger has no limit. Extreme moodiness. Ppl ask me to chant 'ram ram' always... So I make a point to watch Ramayana right from the time I was a kid...

This thread is to enrich my own knowledge and ability to analyze. Am glad this thread is being loved by all.. Eternally grateful as for a budding writer such compliments prove to be a motivation to keep hopes ( my parents call me hopeless u c 😆 as i keep jumping from one activity to other. Between writing such posts I find time for civil engg 😆 they are pretty much scared for me as am an unpredictable piece 😆. To keep the negativity at bay I try to find positivity here. And if I enjoy this journey till the end of the show, I'll take up a course in comparative mythology and turn towards writing and performing arts 😆. So u c why my parents are hopeless about me? I'll be jumping everywhere 😆.)

Now why the hell I started this, I don't know... Kind apologies... 😆

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Posted: 9 years ago

#104

SIYA KE RAM- 18/02/16- PENANCE

Typing from phone ignore typo mistakes pls...

I don't know what to start, from where to start. Am late in updating today. Still pondering over what is really noticeable today? What should I dig deep into?

In the first place, I didn't knew why vishwamitra story was brought up till I saw a pattern. Exactly a PATTERN.

If Monday was about observing, Tuesday was about understanding Wednesday was about promises today it was about actions.

As I said previously every episode has a POINT. It was there even today. Is it cruel vishwarath? Or a forgiving Vashishtha?

It was RAM. A point that is consistent from Monday's episode. He observed, understood and promised. Now he professes to act. How? He didn't do anything, right?

He did a lot. The almighty himself went to his desperate devotee to hear his agony. He quietly listened to the story. He didn't flinch, cringe or curse. Instead stood silently to seep in the pain that a soul felt.

I won't talk much about the story shown in the flashback except about 'kaamdhenu' or 'icchapurti'. I mention these words here because a parallel symbolism is drawn here. Its a cow. Yesterday we had vasudha (earth). Earth symbolically is seen as a cow who provides the mankind with everything. Isn't it interesting?

Yesterday sita's wish today we have Vashishtha's wish in flashback. Shruthi your "manoraj" was bang on re. Am loving this totally as our symbolisms seem to follow a path and everyday we get something so that we can continue from where we left.

It was so symbolic. The cow gave what was wished. The earth shall give what will be wished. An interesting point made was "punyakarm". Meaning, ur wishes will become true if ur deeds, motives and ways are good. (@gmgi I hope you get one more angle to your query)

Vashishtha got his wish fulfilled because of his good deeds. Sita will get it because of her good deeds.

Now you may ask, why was vishwarath granted his wishes when his motto wasn't pure.

Yday and today we had a discussion " look for what you wish". It may break you or make you.

In case of vishwarath both things took place.

His wish actually opened his eyes, breaking vishwarath and making vishwamitra...

Mark the difference in the words, "rath"- to rule, egoistic, hard, cruel,enemy.( metaphorical meanings, not literal)

" mitra"- friend, compassionate, soft,understanding.

Terrific contrast it was... Two sides of a single person...

Coming to the title now. Why I chose "PENANCE"

Penance is punishment.

Vishwamitra wasn't forgiven for no reason. Though forgiven he had a lingering guilt "atmaglaani" which is the worst form of punishment.

It is said don't kill the person for his bad deeds but kill the evilness of his soul. Set his soul free of the evil. This can only be done by removing guilt. Guilt is a complex feeling. It is bad and it is good.

Vishwamitra has his share of punishment in the form of guilt. Now, why was RAM necessary here?

A chotu pointer: after a death, during the funeral period as the corpse is taken on atimyatra what is said? What is played?

"Ram naam satya hai".. You'll hear

"Ram" everywhere.

"RAM" frees the soul of the evil. He takes back the soul in its pure form. Meaning, RAM gives Moksha.

Presence of Ram was crucial here as vishwamitra's soul had to be cleansed of the guilt..

His penance was over. He suffered it for years..

As per the precap ram advises him to apologize Vashishtha. Isn't it valid? Free your soul from the guilt by apologizing.

The same happens when a person dies, isn't it? We chant the name of Ram so that the soul is cleansed of the bad deeds that the person did and in hope that he will get a better next life.

Actually I have a personal experience on this. My dadi went through a lot of pain in her last time for almost 4 months. We believe in karma theory very much. My dadi had supported a wrong deed in the name of love for her daughter. Everybody time snd again asked her to correct her mistake and tell the truth. She didn't budge. But again she also had a long list of good deeds in her name. But as it is said you have to pay for every single deed of yours. That is what happened. Shruthi, the wish theory really hit me hard for this sole reason. Not just personal wishes but also what u wish for others is important. U never know it will backfire. That's what happened with my dadi. She laid in bed with paralysis suffering from bed sores.

I lost her in January. She wouldn't speak much in her last days, but the regret was visible in her eyes. We believe she bid adieu when her soul was cleansed of all the bad deeds. She did got her penance for her deeds in the form of physical pain and suffering.

Coming back to the episode...

As today ram was present to lessen the guilt of vishwamitra, years later what will happen to ram? Will he be guilt stricken? Will he undergo penance? How shall the Lord free himself from this trap? Will he be able to apologize to sita in time? Or will drown in the sea of agony?

The episodes till now are in perfect relation to each other foretelling of what can happen.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#105

Hi Janvi I am Geena. Please never stop writing. When both u n Sruthi writes it touches somewhere deep. Both of u r exceptional writers n u write with a passion. It shows that u love writing. When we do something that we love we will be passionate.😊 Loved todays title. Waiting for the update.😃

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Posted: 9 years ago

#106

Originally posted by: gmgi
Hi Janvi I am Geena. Please never stop writing. When both u n Sruthi writes it touches somewhere deep. Both of u r exceptional writers n u write with a passion. It shows that u love writing. When we do something that we love we will be passionate.😊 Loved todays title. Waiting for the update.😃

Geena stay tuned... Updating 😳

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Posted: 9 years ago

#107

Geena as DD said it is a complex question at this point because I have only analyzed the symbolism. Currently I would not prefer to delve into that much. Hopefully CVs will give me better clarity on this aspect as the show progresses and I will be able to answer it better. So let us keep it open for now

@DD I had always suppressed emotions and unexpectedly will fly off the handle. Actually writing had helped me to clean up myself. To put across my feelings, discard the negative, take the positive. It is actually a balm for me whenever I am stressed and this show has a serenity to it that after each episode I feel a calm inside me and for me that is what Ramayan should do. Rest everything is secondary.

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Posted: 9 years ago

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@DD a wonderful post and what an insight you have provided. About actions and impact I have made a seperate post as post of the day. I will just want to put one incident in my life with this wish theory, which I have never done after that. To wish even slightly bad for someone.

When my tenth result had come I didnt had the expected marks and believe me it was for English Second paper I had scored lowest. You know my writing style and to score low in a paper which had essays, character analysis and poetry analysis, the paper which was my strength throughout was a blow to me. Quite lot of us near my roll number scored less and if you look the pattern I had scored better. But it was really agonizing for me to see people who cant write sentence half as good as me had excellent marks and this paper made me the class topper to class 4th.

My friend was class topper and generally after every exam she used to cry telling not done well. I used to console her. And seeing her marks and combined with agony I had kept on telling you cheated me, you lied to me in mind. Gussa tha. But 2 years later when entrance results came I made it, she didnt , she didnt even clear the repeat and I felt immensely sad. Arey I never wanted this for her. But was it because of my constant chanting in mind that she cheated me, she lied to me this happened. I never knew the answer for that, but post that incident I have been very careful for what I think for others in my mind, even people who have hurt me directly.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#109

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
Geena as DD said it is a complex question at this point because I have only analyzed the symbolism. Currently I would not prefer to delve into that much. Hopefully CVs will give me better clarity on this aspect as the show progresses and I will be able to answer it better. So let us keep it open for now
@DD I had always suppressed emotions and unexpectedly will fly off the handle. Actually writing had helped me to clean up myself. To put across my feelings, discard the negative, take the positive. It is actually a balm for me whenever I am stressed and this show has a serenity to it that after each episode I feel a calm inside me and for me that is what Ramayan should do. Rest everything is secondary.

You know shruthi, I second your thoughts about writing.. It applies to me too. The problem with me is I'll suppress everything and then one fine day I'll explode where I'll talk no sense... The real thing will stay hidden... Writing has given me the escape you see. If u read my blog, u'll find a pattern either with motivational quotes or with poetries or with stories replete with poignancy, sarcasm or a tinge of sadness.. Life has been very tough. Am 22 and when I c ppl of my age around me I think I became mature pretty early. Maybe I understood what others couldn't. You won't see ppl of my age think this deep.. My colleagues and friends term me lunatic 😆. They find it difficult to understand me. I don't know why but life has taught me the tough way very tough way. I may be upfront, straight, honest and seemingly positive but it doesnt take a second for me to lose hope.

Of late am experiencing career pressures. Academics wasn't an issue for me ever. But I believe if u develop an unending passion for something take it pursue it u'll definitely get somewhere. And that is what I am trying.

I have started writing around 2.5 yrs ago. My journey has just begun. I don't know where it shall take me.. But again I believe there's nothing wrong in aspiring and dreaming. I guess its only the dream that gives me hope for something great...

Ramayana has made me believe in 'belief'. I had lost faith in myself in life in god an year ago. My motto is to regain it back so that I can become a better person on personal and professional front.

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Posted: 9 years ago

#110

Originally posted by: Krishna_Sourav

@Daydreamers thanks...loll m lazy then sometimes want to read more than write... but finally yesterday's epi make me come n write this post n after ur beautiful symbolism ..will try more
bold agree more...with ur this part
yes with Devdut pattnaik we will see another side of Ramayan n waiting for it..even me always imagine what n how will Ram dealt with their son without Sita...

Madirakhshi was fabulous awesome..
that scene make me cry ...I can still feel the goosebump..
about make up n few jwelery few characters given best n few worst ..make up artist look after it...

🤗🤗 thanks thanks..

Then I must say, krish don't be leeji pleej 😆

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