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Originally posted by: daydreamers
SIYA KE RAM - 16/02/16: ROLES,ROADS, REASSURANCES
You open a thread to analyze scenes, to decipher symbolisms and enrich our minds. One wishes to delve deeper into a scene, dialogue and a setup and elaborate it lucidly. As you begin doing this cv's throw a major challenge towards you. And that challenge for me is today's episode. You all heard it right. Today's episode was replete with messages, symbolisms and most importantly a foretelling of the future.I am so lost in today's episode that i find it pretty difficult to pen down things.To make things easier, i will proceed scene wise.The episode begins with Ram. I so much loved this whole thing. He was lost into deep thoughts of how sita pacified her father. Sita comes and tells him about food being served. Note here, of what she calls him, not swami, not prabhu, not dashrath nandan, not ayodhyapati. She calls him "raghunandan". Did it a ring a bell? NO? Connect the flashback that ram has and this particular word. You may get the answer. Lets go reverse. Ram recalls sita saying that she is in a dilemma as there is mithila on one side and ayodhya at other side. She cares about the reputation of both the kingdoms. She doesn't want people to talk ill about mithila or ayodhya. She here spoke as a daughter and as a kulvadhu. Now bring in "raghunandan", she addressed ram as the son or the heir of raghu dynasty. She didn't address him as her husband. Had a husband been addressed, it would have made him weaker emotionally seeing his better-half's separation from her family, her land. Instead she points out the thought of the heir who also has to care for the reputation of the respective kingdom. She assures that he doesn't lose his knowledge in the face of emotions.what comes next is worth asking for. Many loops that had opened culminated here and hence new ones have opened. A time was there when ram had questioned sita that she wants to ask something but is unable to do so ( the bahuvivah question on the cliff in mithila ). Again ram asked her in the temple if she was happy or not. Sita beautifully pointed out of how lucky and happy she was.Today a similar thing happened but with a twist. Sita posed curiosity for his thoughts and he opened his heart. He told how lucky was he to have her in his life. He appreciated her for her straightforwardness, honesty, empathy, love and a sense of duty. He in a nutshell pointed out her ROLES. The role of a daughter and a pillar in the time of need." aj se sansaar aap ka naam mujhse purva lega. Aj se ram ki siya nahi siya ke ram kaha jayega"The dialogue is beautifully analysed by shruthi below.The next scene comes is that of the sisters. As Ram had truly addressed her roles, sita fulfills the same with her sisters. She imparts her sense of dharma to them.The third scene is chandrabhaga, sunaina with their daughters. Long back there was a kitchen scene, when these were kids. Sita had also answered then about the types of foods. Today sunaina asked sita about 'sasural'. Her subsequent questions revolved around the different roles. So ram's address continues here also. A frequently occurring word through and through was 'kulvadhu'. Note the way the girls sat.SITA-URMILA IN A LINE WITH MANDVI-SHRUTHKIRTI BEHIND.A crucial pointer. ( i guess this has to do with the 4 pillars of life) But again as sita explained her stance of following the duties of sasural, she would always be the light-bearer for her sisters. She would always do her sister's margdarshan. A point to be noted, as sita explained, first focus was given on urmila.Time and again chandrabhaga and sunaina pointed out that all the four sisters would stay together. This was ironically foretelling of the future. The way sita time and again pointed herself as the torch bearer was an icing on the cake. Very deep. She indeed was the margdarshak as her exile made her sisters' take up their responsibilities in the future. Sita interestingly focussed on how she would teach them to respect their in-laws. And a minute focus was on mandavi then. It would be really interesting to watch how the sisters will manage this aspect once sita accompanies ram on exile given by kaikeyi. A loop has opened here.The scene that drew my attention was sita's mention of Gargi. Sunaina once again is tensed. I loved how the cv's have maintained their equation as same right from the beginning. The way sunaina and gargi greeted after the wedding was over, was phenomenal. I wont comment much on the scene. Let the details play out tomorrow.Once again janaka-dashratha scene was awesome. I didnt loved it coz janaka was ready for bidaai, i loved it bwecause he said "janaki aur anya teen putriyan". I loved the mention of janaki here. See the role reversal, there was time when ram had addressed sita not by her name (on the cliff) and today is the day when ram calls her 'sitae' and janaka mentions her as 'janaki'.A clever portrayal of roles it was.Ram explains shatrughna the importance of daughter to a family and vice versa. well i don't know why he chose shatrughna for this. I guess shruthi might have an explanation for this.Cherry on the cake was kept by rishi yagyavalva. The way he put forth the importance of janaki. Till now from yday's episode, everything revolved around janaka's daughter janaki. Yagyavalva cleverly gives the twist by bringing in mithila.Now if you connect my starting point till the end, you will notice one thing common, Ram admired sita's role as a daughter, as a guide, and found himself lucky as she would be his better-half, his kul ki maryada. Recall the way he had addressed her saying "aj aapka alag roop dekha"To reach sita, Ram has to understand janaki (which he did today, as janaki also is the REFLECTION of JANAKA), maithili, vaidehi, bhumija. Once he does this, the "raghunandan" will become sita's swami.After this long post, I'll make a point to explain the title. The three R's- ROLES, ROADS AND REASSURANCES.ROLES- There was a consistent mention of women and their roles. kulvadhu topping the list. daughter,sister,guide,pacifier and the reputation. The names JANAKI,MAITHILI,BHUMIJA,VAIDEHI and SITA metaphorically indicate these roles. It will be forever SITA for Ram but to reach till sita he needs to understand JANAKI,MAITHILI,BHUMIJA,VAIDEHI.ROADS- The roads, in short the 'maarg' solely belong to the sisters and to RAM. The four sisters who believe that they would be together, will have to traverse an individual path with different challenges. As sita said i would be the torch bearer for them, she indirectly refers to JANAKA and his teachings. As i mentioned yday of sita being his reflection. Sita also pointed of the knowledge that her sisters had received. In a nutshell, the torch-bearer would be JANAKA's teachings. CV's used SITA metaphorically. Sita being the guide for ram will be during her abandonment.Here a circle shall be completed of what began today in the form of kulvadhu and maryada. once again swami shall become raghunandan. Time will tell how cv's handle this.REASSURANCES- Well this is straight and complex. Sunaina- chandrabhaga reassured that their teachings were a success by taking their daughters' tests. Ram's reassurance of sita being his true soulmate as he is lost in thoughts.sunaina's reassurance of how she and janaka will spend their time. Her reassuring to sita that even when they would be away, her invested time in them in the past would be fruitful.If yesterday belonged to janaka, today it belonged to Ram.Am amazed at the depth of the scenes and dialogues. What i look into tomorrow's precap is sita and her talks with bhoomi. And this is where Ram shall be introduced to maithili and bhumija.
Originally posted by: Krishna_Sourav
Superb beautiful thread
beautiful posts , analysis loved them...
Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@DD you have analyzed everything pretty well. Especially the roles part. Detailed explanation of roles and priority fixing you can check in my individual post
I couldn't post on the sister's seating and Ram-Shatrughna dialogue because I watched epi quite late in daily motion and was tired and wanted to sleep. So here goes.You are right. Sister's position and focus did indicate to the 4 pillars of life. Note when Sita tells her duty as Kulvadhu is important focus was on Urmila. As I said earlier also Sita represents Dharma or knowledge, so she gave the knowledge that role of Kulvadhu is important over and above the duties of sister. Just like Lakshman arth or wealth took the wisdom, Urmila took it. When Sita decides to go for vanvass it is her duty as a kulvadhu of Ayodhya. How can she stay in the palace from where her swami is banished. What will Ayodhya talk about such a kulvadhu and wife. We need to note that vanvass is for Ram, Lakshman does not have the obligation. But he chooses to follow Ram for his brother's and bhabi's protection. As a soldier as a service as expected by his mother who had dedicated both her sons for service. So what is the duty of Urmila as a kulvadhu. To take up the service in the palace. Manage relations in the palace, take care of the mothers.Now coming to focus on Mandavi, I will teach them to respect elders. Mandavi is Kama or Power. When vanvass happens she is at the crucial juncture she is the one who can make or break things. Create a ruckus over Bharat's decision or stand by him. She sees one Kulvadhu gone to vanvass, other bearing separation for the sake of service, so what she needs to do. As Kulvadhu of Ayodhya, she has to standby the family in the hour of crisis, show the unity of brothers thus defeating the divisive force that is Manthara. She respects Bharat's decision.Sruthakirti last one related to Moksha. She combines duty, service and power in supporting Shatrughna to run the tasks or rather he is the one who is executing the task and is directly connected to the welfare of the people of Ayodhya. When the elder kulvadhu's do their duty the youngest take everything from it and combines it to run Ayodhya smoothly till the return of Ram and Sita.Now coming to talk between Ram-Shatrughna. Very important because as I said above if Shatrughna needs to execute orders of Bharat, to run around he has to listen to the intuition and knowledge of Sruthakirti. Her valuable inputs have to always sought in any action wherever confusion is there, so that the praja is benefitted always.
Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@DD your interpretation of Siya Ke Ram is not different from mine. You made it scientific and to understand it people have to know science for that matter optics. I only said Sita's knowledge shines through Ram, what the world sees of Rama is actually Sita and Sita is actually Janaka. How Janaki became Sita. And you brought another point, meaning of Sita. Sita means creating a line.
What does line represents mathematically. It is the connection or the rather for any geometric figure except circle you need line. It looks 1. Ekam. All the numerals are representations of this Ekam.As I said earlier also zero is the path to reach ekam. And on binary system lies everything. Ekam and path to reach ekam.And as I said for any man the ultimate aim is moksha. And the medium through which he reaches that moksha is the woman, the woman who shows the path, who is a man's karmasathi, jeevansathi. Hence he asks her to lead, to give direction so that together they reach the goal of moksha.If I have complicated things with maths guys please forgive me. But then the real learnings in our epics can only be taken using maths and physics based on which the laws of universe or nature runs.