Swayamvar a woman's choice Ram

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I guess I don't have to talk about competition part. Already talked about it in posts yesterday. Though I didn't put yesterday Personally I was little bit disappointed with Ram. That he didn't request janaki whether he can lift the Dhanush. Because real difference to me between Ram and others was asking for Janaki's choice. I was wondering how maryada purush missed it or was I wrong. Today Ram proved me right by highlighting Sita has a right to reject. Biggest thing men need to know. A woman has a right to reject. She has a say in the marriage as much as him. She is not a trophy, but going to be his wife. Hence he requested her freewill to accept him as her husband. I have heard that Panchali rejection of karna was the reason she got insulted in public. Please at least after hearing Ram today stop such comments. It was Krishna who directed her to exercise her choice. And what she did was according to swayamvar dharma. I am happy today. Thank you Cvs for making Ram speak that important message
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I absolutely agree with you Shruthi in this.. that women also have right to accept or
reject with her free will and I just loved how beautifully makers gave this message
through non other than Ram.. & also gave true meaning of Swayamvar.. 👏
Today each and every dialogue had the message for society and I really think people
should watch today's epi. as it will enlighten you 😊
Coming to acting.. Ashish really did brilliant job today with his expressions 👍🏼
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Totally agree with u...
Today ram proved why he is being called Maryadapurushotam👏...
loved every single bit of the episode...

Sita is not an trophy...that was the milestone infact no men have right to treat women as a trophy...👏

Every women should have right to choose her life partner infact...the women choice should be considered Supreme-----👏

What to say...the episode was something which hard to define in word...pure divine and magical...

And a salute to--Ashish and Madhirakshi--------------what brilliant performer they are ...i am speechless specially ashish...bow down bow down...

He was born to play Ram-----spellbound

a strong and important message with touch of beauty SKR is breaking all the benchmark!!👏
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shruthi, I missed your post yesterday. It's like the cvs give an important message and then you always pick it up and reinforce it beautifully. The two - episode and then your post are so intertwined that your post completes the episode.
As for Rama not taking Sita's permission before lifting the dhanush - I am glad it was this way.

The most beautiful aspect of Rama's character goes beyond his strong respect for all human beings, and his deep empathy for those who are being victimised. It is actually to see beyond the rituals, the popular thought and the noise, and to see clearly the underlying real sense and then to fearlessly act upon that.

He instinctively saw that the foolish kings had got carried away with the surface meaning of swayamvar condition as the strongest will win the prize, and then since no one could win, thus the prize was defective!

He had to, first and foremost, settle that - restore the honour and dignity of swayamwar, of Sita not being a prize to be won, and of Janaks honour and intent!

He had to also bring back into focus the fact that by accepting the invitation to the swayamwar, they had merely indicated that they were willing to be considered for Sita's hand, but nothing more. They were not going to win, they were merely to show their worthiness!

You know, when Ravana was trying to lift the dhanush, I was wondering, why Sita would have to marry Ravana , if he manages to "win" , surely, seeing his arrogance and behaviour, she should have the right to say no, even after that! Meeting an essential pre-condition is one part, but to marry - you have to have the same value system and your hearts must be meet.

And yesterday I am so happy, that it is exactly what Rama did - he asked for her agreement after and not before. He took part in the swayamwar of his own free will, and he knew she would be the one he would marry,

Unlike Sita's choice - from among the many, she would be forced to marry whoever wins - so Rama being Rama, gave her the freedom to say no, gave her the choice, and that to my mind is the true essence of why Rama is so pujyaniya.


So to me, this was the Rama way, the right way, and I loved that even after "winning" she had the final right to still say no!


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Posted: 9 years ago
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When Rama knows the meaning 'gudharth' of lifting dhanush, why does he need to ask?

Also, the whole thing implies that Sita accepts this Swayamvar with all its conditions. She is sitting amongst everyone willingly.

So Rama didn't have to ask her permission to lift the bow since its given.

Also, there are lot of open ends(from today's sensibilities) in Ramayan as it is a product of time. If makers start closing all of them and paint every situation according to today's sensibilities, there is no originality left.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

I guess I don't have to talk about competition part. Already talked about it in posts yesterday. Though I didn't put yesterday Personally I was little bit disappointed with Ram. That he didn't request janaki whether he can lift the Dhanush. Because real difference to me between Ram and others was asking for Janaki's choice. I was wondering how maryada purush missed it or was I wrong. Today Ram proved me right by highlighting Sita has a right to reject. Biggest thing men need to know. A woman has a right to reject. She has a say in the marriage as much as him. She is not a trophy, but going to be his wife. Hence he requested her freewill to accept him as her husband. I have heard that Panchali rejection of karna was the reason she got insulted in public. Please at least after hearing Ram today stop such comments. It was Krishna who directed her to exercise her choice. And what she did was according to swayamvar dharma. I am happy today. Thank you Cvs for making Ram speak that important message



I totally agree with u. I liked the BG of maryada purushotham when Ram told Janak to ask Sita's concern. Beautiful directorial touch.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa



When Rama knows the meaning 'gudharth' of lifting dhanush, why does he need to ask?

Also, the whole thing implies that Sita accepts this Swayamvar with all its conditions. She is sitting amongst everyone willingly.

So Rama didn't have to ask her permission to lift the bow since its given.

Also, there are lot of open ends(from today's sensibilities) in Ramayan as it is a product of time. If makers start closing all of them and paint every situation according to today's sensibilities, there is no originality left.


Word! 👏👏👏

This is exactly what I've been trying to say. Makers are destroying the originality of Ramayan, and removing all the subtlety that makes the epic so special and mystical. None of the characters are subtle. They ask everything in each other's face, they state everything that's already evident.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..



Word!👏👏👏

This is exactly what I've been trying to say. Makers are destroying the originality of Ramayan, and removing all the subtlety that makes the epic so special and mystical. None of the characters are subtle. They ask everything in each other's face, they state everything that's already evident.



I repeated the same in Arshi's thread. we can move to that one.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@shanti sita sitting there is accepting swayamvar condition. She is not even going to say no if requested. But asking her shows a man's maryada and understanding of the term swayamvar. It is just an acknowledgment of her choice. Yes we need dialogues now because people need to understand. People knew it then not now. In a society where woman are shot point blank for saying no, acid is poured to disfigure for saying no the message is needed. Point has to be driven home.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Panchali case was really different. She humiliated Karn based on his birth. That's why Karn took revenge. in MB, the one who ordered to bring Draupadi to court was Karn not Dury.The one ordered to strip her was Karn , not Duryodhana. She could've been tell that she wanted to marry a Kshatriya but she told That She wouldn't marry a suda. Heart broken Karn left the place.

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