TVs big cause & effect

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TV's big cause & effect

Siya Ke Ram

Small screen shows are now investing in VFX that could rival that of Bollywood films in terms of visual quality

Taking a cue from Bollywood, which has progressed much in recent years in terms of VFX quality, the Indian TV industry too is now pumping a lot more money and energy into VFX. With genres such as supernatural and mythology being received fairly well, the industry appears to be determined to feed the audience with a superior quality of special effects. Supernatural and mythological shows have long since reigned the small screen but their quality of special effects were nothing to write home about.

But things seem to have changed in the past few months. Some of the recent shows have taken many by surprise with their VFX quality " cases in point are Siya Ke Raam, Naagin, Yeh Hai Mohabbatein and the upcoming show Janbaz Sindbad.

According to Sandiip Sikcand, creative director of YHM, this is another expression of the growing power of the small screen. He says, "Television has become a larger medium of telling stories and as creative directors, we are always looking at ways to enhance the quality of storytelling." His show YHM recently took a Khoon Bhari Maang kind of turn, where a crocodile needed to be brought into the picture. "We used VFX to create the crocodile and the entire sequence has come out brilliantly. If a certain kind of technology has been invented, it should be used in all possible mediums to enhance the quality of entertainment," Sandiip says.

For daily entertainment programmes, tight deadlines are the greatest challenge. Hardik Gajjar from Vertexvolt that works on the VFX for shows like Mahadev, Hatim and Siya Ke Ram, says, "TV has tight deadlines and we don't have the luxury of time that we usually get while working on movies. For SKR my team started working eight months before the show went on air. We have teams of 130 people each, who work two shifts, so that the VFX is ready in time for telecast." Speaking of the effects they work with mostly for SKR, Hardik adds, "We have used live action mixed with photorealism. We shoot in natural light and replace it with 3D. We have created an entire city (Ayodhya) in 3D. So we shoot in real locations, retain the lighting pattern and replace it with computer graphics."

Sometimes the roadblocks in the process may be unforeseen. Hardik shares, "For the younger Ram's introduction scene we had to scrap our work of four months and start all over again. Finding the perfect location was proving to be a problem. The plan was to shoot in Kerala but that didn't work out. We did a chroma shoot outdoor and the elephants were replaced by 3D ones and so was the statue of Shiva for the final scene. Another scene that proved to be tough to execute was the first episode that showed the exterior of Ayodha. We had to revise the entire city through VFX."

For Naagin, the makers need to ensure that someone from the VFX team is present during the shoot. Director Santram Verma says, "I am very particular about the small details. Television is very cut-to-cut, so we try and keep the quality best possible within the limited time. And there have been occasions when I have asked the team to rework a scene if I am not satisfied."

Television director Rohit Raj Goel attributes the trend to the availability and prevalence of VFX in general. "Earlier VFX was very expensive and expertise was hard to come. But these days there are a lot of people doing it. Just the last three-four years have seen Bollywood films make major use of VFX. Films like Baahubali have made VFX a big thing now, in the mainstream medium. And because TV has a trend of copying the film industry, so this is a natural progression for the small screen. In television, VFX adds a lot of new dimensions. For example, it can be used to beautify a scene or it can be used in action sequences, like they do in films. Using VFX certainly adds more quality to the scenes as compared to using ropes or camera techniques."

While the big screen is always an inspiration, the VFX used for television programmes is different from those used for films, points out Dimple Dugar, founder, The Pixellence Studio that has worked on the VFX of Naagin. "Since television works with less time, we can spare 8-10 hours for a single scene. We therefore choose lower rendering settings and HD resolution. Film VFX on the other hand requires heavy rendering settings and detailed planning," she says. Dimple goes on to add that the technologies used in Naagin are no less compared to what Hollywood uses. "We have used high-end technology to create the 3D cobra, showcasing the transformation, the fireflies, skin textures, other effects such as eyes changing, set extensions etc." The biggest challenge was to create the producer's vision for Naagin, Dimple adds. "We have worked on rotation shots and continuous moment shots which are the most difficult to match in post-production, as usually VFX shows are shot in static frames."


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks for sharing.
Such hard work and dedication the team are putting in, we should really applaud them for this.👏👏
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tfs the article partu 🤗

they started to work 8 months before the show went on air nd few were saying they copied bahubali 🤣🤣 still now dont get how they copied 😆

anyway what a big team 13o people ... how hard they all working yeah ... they deserve all the appreciation they getting 😊😊
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Partu,it is so easy to comment in a line
and put down someone's hard work
I know how tough it is
Being in the same line of work
Though not very much into it presently

that's why I was really shocked to see few ridiculing it
In 20 mins ep more that 10 mins has graphics involved

How tough it must be
How many VFX artists must have had sleepless nights

Like they say
It's not a movie
when u get all the time in the world
Here telecast timing can't be compromised
Each scene in diff locations
Indoors,outdoors
Kudos to the team👏
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Originally posted by: -Mano-

Partu,it is so easy to comment in a line

and put down someone's hard work
I know how tough it is
Being in the same line of work
Though not very much into it presently

that's why I was really shocked to see few ridiculing it
In 20 mins ep more that 10 mins has graphics involved

How tough it must be
How many VFX artists must have had sleepless nights

Like they say
It's not a movie
when u get all the time in the world
Here telecast timing can't be compromised
Each scene in diff locations
Indoors,outdoors
Kudos to the team👏


i too was lyk how easily they putting down someone work if u cant appreciate at lease ignore it

how hard must be for the team they not only shooting in set but in diff location spl out door shoot is not easy .. recently only we saw hw they were shooting in such cold weather

such hardworking team not only VFX but the entire team

anywayy luv in with the show.. nd the team nd sp ji now how to make us restless ... 😆😆 i cant even say how many tyms i watch each epis 😆 cant wait for action wala new year nd first meet of Ram nd Siya
Edited by Thushi - 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Thushi

tfs the article partu 🤗

they started to work 8 months before the show went on air nd few were saying they copied bahubali 🤣🤣 still now dont get how they copied 😆

anyway what a big team 13o people ... how hard they all working yeah ... they deserve all the appreciation they getting 😊😊


Not the whole show, but that waterfall scene where young Ram saved his brothers was straight out of bahubali. Anyway, it's easy to be inspired because SKR is being shot in Ramoji Film City where Bahubali was also shot, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had used the same waterfall set that Bahubali had used. And besides, if SKR shot for 8 mths before airing, Bahubali shot for three years before the movie released.
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No one is putting down the hard work of the graphic designers or the crew working on the VFX. I know it's hard work, and yes the graphics of this show are indeed beautiful. The only thing we're saying is that we wished CVs spent less time on the WOW effect and more time writing an accurate storyline. For a good portion of the audience, including me, it seems as if CVs are spending far more time trying to make their show look nice, than showing it properly.

History has proven that technology and graphics are not what make a show popular, but the strength and accuracy of the storyline. No matter how beautiful a show may look in terms of graphics, people will still criticize it if the storyline is found to be lacking. Look at Bajirao Mastani for example. That show's VFX is superior to anything shown on television so far, even SKR. But still it's being criticized and condemned by many people for playing with history and showing an inaccurate storyline. So how can you expect people not to criticize SKR's inaccurate storyline just because the graphics are nice?

When it comes to history and mythology, storyline is far more important than graphics or technology. So no one is putting down the cast and crew's hard work. Everyone knows and acknowledges that they're working hard. In fact, the CVs themselves know their graphics are good, as they've been making many comments about how their graphics are better than former mythological shows, but what they don't seem to understand is that 20 years down the line, people won't care which show has the best technology. They'll only care about which show has the strongest storyline and when it comes to mytho, which show portrayed Ramayan most accurately.
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


Not the whole show, but that waterfall scene where young Ram saved his brothers was straight out of bahubali. Anyway, it's easy to be inspired because SKR is being shot in Ramoji Film City where Bahubali was also shot, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had used the same waterfall set that Bahubali had used. And besides, if SKR shot for 8 mths before airing, Bahubali shot for three years before the movie released.


Waterfalls is not sets first of all but CG and real footage
Scene can't be matched with different CG done for different work
And people don't share CG's even btw movies
It's a different company that worked for Bahubali
This VFX company is of Nikil's


Just bcos film city is same
Sets doesn't get shared either
that too when Bahubali2 is still in making
Why would they share

Movie might have started 3 years before
But audience along with Nikil would have seen it only after release
And there was barely 3 to 4 months difference between movie and show
Bahubali team only released selected footage online
They maintained secrecy

Seeing it and then planning the making, 3D finally VFX is not simple
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This article was only about VFX
and we r talking about VFX part only
where does story discussion come here
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Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


Not the whole show, but that waterfall scene where young Ram saved his brothers was straight out of bahubali. Anyway, it's easy to be inspired because SKR is being shot in Ramoji Film City where Bahubali was also shot, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had used the same waterfall set that Bahubali had used. And besides, if SKR shot for 8 mths before airing, Bahubali shot for three years before the movie released.


they clearly said how they shoot the waterfall scene how much tym it took if they had to use the same why would take so long lol

btw waterfall was done with graphics lol 😆

then how come they used same set 😆

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