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Posted: 9 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..


All the Pushp Vatika and Swayamvar stories are from Tulsidas' Ramcharitmanas, which is as revered and respected as Valmiki Ramayan by people. So no, those stories are not fiction.

As for Devdutt Patnaik, he's no scholar. His "Sita" is a fictional account merely inspired by his imagination that has no basis in the actual story. So if Nikhil Sinha is going to follow his book as he appears to be doing, then this show is nothing but fiction (like we knew all along).

The recent two episodes of SKR have been nothing but fiction. They are only using the names of the characters and completely weaving their own story.

It's not even worth my time commenting on what's true and what's not, because the entire episodes have been false for a long time. In fact, this serial is not Ramayan. It's just a fictional work meant for mere entertainment, definitely not knowledge.


@Janaki,

Agree, the author of this book, may not be as great as Tulsidas and other revered ones., but I would like to mention that, his book has not come out of his mere imagination.

Do not know, if you have gone through this book or no., but it is a compilation of various re tellings of the epic., by authors, poets renowned.

For every sequence that is mentioned different in this book, the author gives the original reference text., at the end of the chapter.

For ex : Sita along with sisters and Kushadwaja attending Viswamitra yagna, is part of rendition of Bhavabhuti's Sanskrit play - Mahavira Charitra, which is mentioned in the foot note.

Now, we need not have any doubt that Bhavabhuti is not a scholar., because he is of course, one, in his times.

It is not that I'am being defensive of what CV's are showing, but what I feel is as long as the soul is intact in their rendition ( following, which ever version, or how many ever versions ), and Rama and Sita, and other positive characters of the epic are portrayed in a just manner, I am open to appreciate same.

The one positive thing , I would like to confess., after beginning to watch the show, I've started to read Valmiki Ramayana - translation by Griffith, Ramayana retold by C.Raja Gopalachari, and " Sita ".

I'am at least thankful to the CV's , that I could get myself motivated to try to go through this epic in detail, which I have not even imagined doing till date.


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Posted: 9 years ago
#62
Ok folks, with some raving reviews of SKR I was wondering if I should give it a shot. Though Iust admit I was very skeptical - as even history distortion is unbearable, that being the case showing Gods whom we revere as Standard soap heroes and heroines - like the Rsm Sita Milan from promo, is something I would like to avoid.

Judiciously I landed on this thread first and its now clear whether I should watch or not!!!!

I remember a comment on a historical show - it is not what they show but how they show that matters - maybe to win Awards. But history, in other wirds, taking great personalities for granted and depicting their life as per one's whims and fancy is no way acceptable, atleast to me.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@adi2512,
There is a difference between following a book written by a modern author who compiled stories from different versions, and following those different versions directly. Because no matter how much Devdutt Patnaik may have researched into various versions of Ramayan, his interpretation of those stories will still be there in every word he's written, so if one follows his book, they'll get a very different picture of those stories than if they'd read those stories directly by the original authors.

For example, if I wrote a book based on Tulsidas Ramayan, I might still follow the stories written there, but they'd be colored by my own feelings and beliefs. So if a person read my book, they'd have a very different view on Tulsidas than if they'd read Tulsidas directly.

Although the CVs have made great claims about doing extensive research, personally I feel they have taken the easy (and risky) route by following authors like Devdutt Patnaik and Anand Neelkanthan instead of researching the epic themselves.

I am not against using stories from different versions. Different adaptations of Ramayan have done it as well and they've done it beautifully, but there's always a line that shouldn't be crossed. Like, SKR is totally unrecognizable now! No one would know it's Ramayan based on what they're showing. It has no resemblance at all to the original work of Valmiki even a little bit! I'm not saying they have to follow it word for word. But the general storyline has been deviated to such an extent that the CVs have created a whole new story.

Like, Vishvamitra is supposed to come to Ayodhya and take Ram and Lakshman to his ashram before they even meet Mareech and Subahu. Rakshasas were not supposed to attack Ayodhya or create unrest among the citizens, because Dashrath was such a ruler that even rakshasas and asuras were scared of him. They never dared attack his kingdom, so by showing such stories they're demeaning the greatness of Dashrath (like they've been doing from the start).

The CVs should be smart enough to show different stories that go well with the rest of the epic. Like, the general storyline shouldn't be changed. The different stories they use from various versions should be incorporated into the general storyline.

As a viewer, I cannot connect with this show at all, and neither can I revere this Ram and Sita as ideals, because they are being portrayed as typical soap hero/heroine, not two divine beings who came to Earth as an ideal for all.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: iDea-yeS-viruS

was Ram really Yuvaraj? may be I'm wrong. but I heard somewhere Yuvaraj means successor of present King. up to my knowledge, I never read like Dhasarath announced Ram as Yuvaraj. please some one clear my doubt.

Dashrath had not officially announced Ram as Yuvraj, though as a practice, since he was the first son, he was addressed by all as Yuvraj. When Dashrath decided to announce him as Yuvraj, that is when Kaikeyi demanded the post fro her son Bharath. And since Dashrath died even before Bharath reached Ayodhya, he was directly announced as Raja and he took care of the state in the name of Ram till his return after 14 years.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@adi I am happy to know that there is a reference of Ram meeting Sita and sisters during viswamitra yajna. Actually I have been searching for that, in which book it mentions. And as you rightly said as long as the soul is intact I am fine watching it.
Because I am a person who have read MT Vasudevan Nair's Randamoozham, Ashwin Sanghi's Krishna Key and Amish Tripathi's Shiva Trilogy. I have enjoyed all these books. I have my share of praises and criticisms for these. But nothing takes away the fact that, these books were amazing learning experiences.
And I remember some of my Christian friends telling about Da Vinci code. They were many who read it and told. This book is fine, interesting. I enjoyed it. And it has nothing to do with my going to church.
And there were another set who refused to read the book, fearing that is not correct, that it might affect their fundamental belief.
With regard to religious books I have always been open. My bhakti is at one side. That never changes. Because my bhakti is for the quality of the lord. The all encompassing love and trust he generates.
And no book can take away that fundamental from me. But what the books can help me is in rationalizing my thoughts. Eliminating the unnecessary fears that religious dogmas create. And they also help me in telling my thoughts better way to a larger audience so they can also connect to it.
Once again thank you for shedding info on Devdutt Patnaik's Sita. I guess I should be reading it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@ Shruthi, If you enjoyed reading Shiv Trilogy by Amish Tripathi, then I suggest you to read his book Scion of Ikshvaku, the 1st boom on Ram, you will have a completely different perspective of Ram & Sita.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#67
^thanks. yesterday episode Ram called as Yuvaraj. I never read in Ramayana like Ram mentioned as Yuvaraj at anywhere.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@jaya that book I have already marked for reading. 😃
Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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and guys, i have read "scion of ikshvaku", it not only gives new perceptions of ram and sita, other charecters too.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I had placed advance Order for "scion of ikshvaku", release copy and had read it in one go. But as we know, we shall not compare that with the original epic and start drawing lines. 😊

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