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Arijit

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Posted: 9 years ago

#481

us maha abhimaani ke paap ka ghade aur bhi paap hain, vedvati kaa abhishap, nalkuber kaa abhishaap aur nandi kaa abhishaap, aur uske khud ke karma, yeh sabhi banenge uski mrityu.

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#482

Originally posted by: kanak123
I feel ravan's jellwery should be reduced ...his body looks like stuck with those heavy things...he doesnt even needs them becoz the person playing the character is very effective...

By the way wat a bad ass he was...i never knew his paap ka ghada had all these things

I like Ravan's jewelry. He is the King of Lanka, which is supposed to be a golden and prosperous kingdom. For him to look simple would be totally against his nature.

And yes, everything SKR showed in regards to Ravan is true.

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#483

Today, I liked Sunaina's explanation about why a woman should have her hair up. I'm glad SKR touched on this ritual, it's much needed for today's generation, who question and rebel against everything without trying to understand the importance behind each ritual and belief.

Star Plus' Mahabharat also explained why it's inauspicious for a woman to have loose hair, but SKR clarified it further and it's one message I really liked. One thing I would like to clarify is, even unmarried women shouldn't go around in loose hair, like how SKR's Sita and sisters do. Just as Sunaina said that tied up hair is a sign of love and understanding from the husband, tied up hair for unmarried woman symbolizes that they will get a husband who will love and take care of them, so it's very important for any woman, married or unmarried, to tie up their hair. The only women who should have loose hair are widows, as it's a sign of mourning for them.

The only thing I did not like about this scene was Sita calling tied up hair a "bandhan", which is a totally modernized concept. I do not like her increasingly rebellious attitude. Women back in those days did not question everything their parents told them to do. SKR CVs are making it seem like women in the treta yuga were as rebellious as kids today, when in fact children were a lot wiser and more understanding in those days. Sita is supposed to be an educated woman, so she should have known about this ritual before her mother told her. Had Sita received true education of those days, she would have followed all these rituals before her mother told her anything. Sita was such a woman that she did not have to be told to do something. She did it beforehand, that's what made her so ideal.

This Sita is definitely a 21st century woman! I am liking SKR's Ram more and more as far as characterization goes, Sita is becoming too rebellious for my taste. Ram's character too is flawed, but there are no blatant mistakes in what he says and does. Sita's every dialogues is nearly rebellious in nature. I am surprised she even agreed to the swayamvar.

Edited by ..RamKiJanaki.. - 9 years ago

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#484

Originally posted by: kanak123
@ram ki jhanki...read this article about women status during vedic times...http://www.hinduismtoday.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=5566
Women had equal status as men...it was only after india was invaded by mughals and britishers they were forced to change their status. They had to stay covered and learn the art of taking care of family .

India had a very rich culture...and education system too. And i believe it becoz i have heard about it from my grandparents.

I am not talking about status but typical everyday behavior. Yes, the status of man and woman was equal in vedic times, but the behavior of both genders was also restrained. Men and women were both educated (though in different subjects), but at the same time, they did not have the same level of independence people have today.

Men and women were not allowed to talk or meet before marriage. The only woman a man was allowed to talk to was his wife or sister, and the only man a woman was allowed to talk to was her father or brother. Marriages were often arranged without the consent of the bride or groom, as they were more like business transactions between families and kingdoms than the "loving relationships" which they are seen as today. Of course, there were exceptions and we do have plenty of love stories from vedic times, but if we look closely at scriptures, even those love stories happened within the confines of propriety.

Ram and Sita had a very loving marriage, but they never met up secretly or talked be fore marriage. The pushp vatika meeting was very brief and accidental, and they did not exchange one word the entire time. They merely saw each other before returning to their respective duties. Even after Ram won the swayamvar, he never met with or talked to Sita until the marriage was completed and he was her lawfully wedded husband.

In order to abduct Rukmini, Krishna had to ask Balram to distract the warriors of Bhishmaka's kingdom before he was able to make his way to the Gauri mandir, because Rukmini and her attendants were very separated in a highly protected area within the women's quarters. Krishna could not merely stroll up to her and ask for a personal chat.

I am not saying the status of men and women was different, but they both did have restrictions placed on them. Neither men nor women could interact with each other as easily as we do today. So for Ram and Sita to meet freely in Mithila is such an oddity to see onscreen, and also very historically inaccurate. Such scenes are shown only to please the hearts of modern day youth, because they like seeing such scenes onscreen. But to call such scenes "meaningful" or "accurate" is very odd and disturbing indeed, lol.

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Arijit

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Posted: 9 years ago

#485

@janaki, may be she knows that ram will be able to lift the bow.

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#486

One other thing I would like to point out - Sita never asked coerced Ram into promising her not to remarry. This promise was made by Ram after their marriage, out of love for her. Ram was not coerced into it, and neither did Sita demand it. It was a symbol of his love for her, and by showing Ram promise her that only after she asks him, it diminishes Ram's greatness. Now SKR has made it seem like Sita dragged the promise out of Ram, and people may question whether Ram truly wanted to make that promise or not.

Sita taking Ram's test has made her love very conditional and demanding. I am not getting the feeling of "true love in its purest form" from them. True love does not demand, and neither does it expect anything. True love is giving without expectation, and that's what Ram and Sita did. They both served each other, respected each other, and loved each other without any expectation of their love being returned. Such was their love story!

Not the conditional and demanding love of the modern world.

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Janaki

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Posted: 9 years ago

#487

Originally posted by: Arijit007
@janaki, may be she knows that ram will be able to lift the bow.

Still, at this point he is neither her betrothed nor her husband, so it is inappropriate for them to speak or interact beyond simple eyelocks.

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Arijit

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Posted: 9 years ago

#488

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

Still, at this point he is neither her betrothed nor her husband, so it is inappropriate for them to speak or interact beyond simple eyelocks.

i agree and that would've been better.

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Justlikethat1

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Posted: 9 years ago

#489

@RKJ - totally agree. The tying up of hair, the explanation and your view on Ram and Sita as being portrayed now is apt.

That scene placement was so wrong under the context.. it felt like sita was checking off from her list of qualities of her prospective groom which was not what their love was about.

Ram and Sita did not need words to understand each other and Sita did not certainly need questions to assuage her love for Ram.

Coming to yesterday though... I do like Ravan's screen presence but the actor needs to work on his dialogue delivery. . He is surrounded by actors who have amazing diction. Malyavan is great and the actor playing the part brings out his contempt and arrogance to the T while speaking perfectly. So Ravana s lack of delivery looks obvious. Though I understand that he is not a native Hindi speaker, I just wish he catches on quick.. his presence and dialogue delivery when it matches can create an epic Ravan.