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Posted: 6 years ago
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Mishti just needs a father. When a child's father /mother is dead, it doesn't matter. We accept. But when a child tells the society /school/class mates that her father doesn't live with them...they all ask "why did he/she left? Don't they love you? Why ? Do you have any problem? What was your problem? So you are guilty that your mom/dad go separated...at the end she/he starts to think that it must be her/his fault." Divorced parent's child goes through lots of mental pressure that a normal parent's child will never understand. Just as you saw Mahek's reaction, "Mauli didn't teach her child properly" or Mauli is responsible for child's behavior. We all know how sweet was Mishti before Kunal's introduction. But Mahek made it in such a way as if Mauli is a "Murderer" "Pari" my best friend's last nishani". I just felt ke do thappad de doon . Mahek is an example of why a divorced woman can't move on or why Mishti is behaving this way. Mishti is 6years old. Poor thing. In this age she is suffering so much and she is fighting alone with the world. Mauli toh Bhagwan ke beti. She has the tolerance like koi "Mahatma". But she is a mature lady. Mishti is just 6year old. Whatever she accused Mauli is her anger that her mom never utter a word. If she saw her mom scolding Kunal or giving a reaction her life would look much better. She could think that she is in right hand. Whatever happens my mom is a sherni. Mauli's khamoshi is the reason why Mishti is getting restless. As now she thinks if Ishan leaves she will not have her shelter...who gave her this idea? Mauli herself. A guy whom you not going to marry why did you give him so much responsibility of your daughter? Now Mishti is possessed by Ishan. In this point I don't blame Mishti. Mauli is a mother , learn to act like "Maa Durga". When you are the only parent be the "Boss of your child. Mishti must know "Moma is the Boss".



Regarding why Mauli didn't tell Kunal, why she hid, he would stay with her if she told about her pregnancy...I completely agree with you. Thank God someone wrote something. I am also getting irritated with this concept. That guy came back from his ...house with a face of an owl. 🤢Accha kiya jo nehi boli. A man who doesn't give his attention to his wife...is not a man for that woman. It is better that he leaves. Uski manhoos shakal nehi chahiye. When Mauli replied all these I felt the first time respect for her. But after that I am not enjoying her. She is giving all her rights to other people. Even Mishti who is her daughter...she should not give her to Kunal or Ishan. No matter what she does in future...choose Ishan or choose Kunal. Mishti is Mauli's daughter. It was always her decision to give birth to Mishti. This is a high time for Mauli to tell this to Mishti. "Your father doesn't matter...because I myself is the mom-dad for you. As I took the decision to give birth to you."
But alas this is an Indian serial. I wonder can they show a "Mother India"? As everyday Mauli is turning in to a messed up chicken.


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Posted: 6 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: FruitToasty


Didn't they show that Kunal would have accepted Mauli for the baby? So the baby is more important than the woman herself, what does it mean?
The only reason Kunal could ever consider living with Mauli was her child and people here supported this saying he would have lived with her but she lied


😕 So you are trying to say just because they showed Kunal staying for the baby the show and the audience believe women are baby making machine? I don't think I am understanding you right. Please feel free to explain. Just because they show something, for example, Rajdeep beating Nandini, doesn't mean the show is saying we approve of this decision. They also showed us Mauli standing up and saying she doesn't want to use her baby to hold on to Kunal and audience did love that.

As for Kunal Mauli and pregnancy situation I think most fans here have the hardest time understanding most things are a matter of perspective. Just because Mauli was right in her place doesn't mean she was right from all angles. As a woman I totally totally support Mauli for not telling scum Kunal she was pregnant. She deserved better and he didn't deserve to know. But if you switch the angles, let's switch it to Mishti's angle. From Mishti's side what Mauli did was wrong. It was Mauli who let Mishti live a fatherless life because whether Kunal wanted to be with her or not he would've loved Mishti and been there for her.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rhimjhimsawan


😕 So you are trying to say just because they showed Kunal staying for the baby the show and the audience believe women are baby making machine? I don't think I am understanding you right. Please feel free to explain. Just because they show something, for example, Rajdeep beating Nandini, doesn't mean the show is saying we approve of this decision. They also showed us Mauli standing up and saying she doesn't want to use her baby to hold on to Kunal and audience did love that.

As for Kunal Mauli and pregnancy situation I think most fans here have the hardest time understanding most things are a matter of perspective. Just because Mauli was right in her place doesn't mean she was right from all angles. As a woman I totally totally support Mauli for not telling scum Kunal she was pregnant. She deserved better and he didn't deserve to know. But if you switch the angles, let's switch it to Mishti's angle. From Mishti's side what Mauli did was wrong. It was Mauli who let Mishti live a fatherless life because whether Kunal wanted to be with her or not he would've loved Mishti and been there for her.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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The title is "More than a baby making machine"
In this show they've shown that kunal would never leave his child, he would have stayed with Mauli for his child and Mauli was wrong in not telling him about it... Mauli herself said a few days ago that if she had told Kunal he would have stayed with her...


My point is very clear - Mauli was amazing wife
She was beautiful
She was hardworking
She fulfilled Kunal's sexual needs
She worked day and night to build his clinic
She is a very good hearted person
A thorough professional
One of the best in her career
All that was nothing, the woman Mauli is nothing, but a pregnant Mauli is everything
Ultimately Mauli's womb means more than herself, in this show they made her accept it to some extent that Kunal would have accepted her with a baby

Isn't that insulting to women?

As opposed to that Mauli accepted Kunal with his cheating, his insults, token of KuNan love ie Pari

I hope you understand what I am trying to say
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Love your meaningful posts dear. I am of the opinion that since the child is responsibility of both the mother and the father , that's the reason why womb is given importance ..Kunal may not have come back for mauli alone but he was ready to compromise for his unborn child because it was their collective responsibility and the child should not get affected like how she did. Whether or not they fulfill it properly is another issue .
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_

Love your meaningful posts dear. I am of the opinion that since the child is responsibility of both the mother and the father , that's the reason why womb is given importance ..Kunal may not have come back for mauli alone but he was ready to compromise for his unborn child because it was their collective responsibility and the child should not get affected like how she did. Whether or not they fulfill it properly is another issue .


Lol. ..😆 Kunal didn't want to come and he gave a proposal to Nandini that without going back to Nandu he would still prove that he is a good father. He was more like holding Nandu's leg like a beggar. ..."mujhe nehi jana hai..." It was Nandu who kicked and kicked Kunal to go back to Mauli. "Tujge jaaanaa hi parega...tu jah Kunal ...jaaah" 😆

After coming back he made his face like a "dead body" even after knowing that Mauli is pregnant. I think you missed it or forgot. It was karwachaut. Mauli who was pregnant was starving for his "lambeee umar." She came to room and there was Kunal standing in front of wardrobe with a manhoos shakal. Didn't notice Mauli is there and trying to fix her hair...after a long time noticed her for a long time. Then after a long time he fixed her hair without looking at her face. If I was Mauli , forget about pregnancy, EMA etc. I was fasting for him...and he is with that face , ...I would kick him out only for making that face. 😆 I am starving here for you, and you are showing me attitude? 😡😡 .
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: jhalak7


Lol. ..😆 Kunal didn't want to come and he gave a proposal to Nandini that without going back to Nandu he would still prove that he is a good father. He was more like holding Nandu's leg like a beggar. ..."mujhe nehi jana hai..." It was Nandu who kicked and kicked Kunal to go back to Mauli. "Tujge jaaanaa hi parega...tu jah Kunal ...jaaah" 😆

After coming back he made his face like a "dead body" even after knowing that Mauli is pregnant. I think you missed it or forgot. It was karwachaut. Mauli who was pregnant was starving for his "lambeee umar." She came to room and there was Kunal standing in front of wardrobe with a manhoos shakal. Didn't notice Mauli is there and trying to fix her hair...after a long time noticed her for a long time. Then after a long time he fixed her hair without looking at her face. If I was Mauli , forget about pregnancy, EMA etc. I was fasting for him...and he is with that face , ...I would kick him out only for making that face. 😆 I am starving here for you, and you are showing me attitude? 😡😡 .


i remember everything. but i replied to the topic in a general way . "the woman has no worth without a child" . for a child the father and mother both are important whether or not they stay together. it doesnt matter who is good or bad or worthy of the status or not..


Whether or not Kunal would forget nandini incase mauli didnt lie to him and whether he would have become a good father or not are all guesses , made by us and by kunal also. He was sent by nandini or he himself realized is not important because its the past. the situations , emotions, keep changing with time. I would say Kunal deserved Mishtis hatred and maulis hatred also but Mauli doesnt hate him so thats that..what she decides with her life and what kunal does is what will keep the story going.


you can easily kick out your husband dear if he does that. who is stopping you?😆 but mauli wont take your suggestions na. because practically all suggestions would be different. If Mauli forgives Kunal and takes him back , and they go for a happy ending ..fine..its somebodys perspective n i am fine with it..
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@Charu
So we have established -
1 Kunal went to Mauli for the child
2 We can't say whether it would have been good for Mishti or not... That's a different thing

But my point is not from perspective of a father or a child, I am talking about that woman Mauli, even if Kunal wanted to come back for the child, isn't that insulting to Mauli as a woman?
After all the humiliation and accusations that kunal meted out to her, she should have accepted him because he would be a good father?
In a marital relationship respect of both partners is important, here Mauli is accepting Kunal with all his wrongdoings but Kunal won't ever accept Mauli with all her goodness, he is accepting her for the child she is carrying in her womb... Do you see that?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty

@Charu

So we have established -
1 Kunal went to Mauli for the child
2 We can't say whether it would have been good for Mishti or not... That's a different thing

But my point is not from perspective of a father or a child, I am talking about that woman Mauli, even if Kunal wanted to come back for the child, isn't that insulting to Mauli as a woman?
After all the humiliation and accusations that kunal meted out to her, she should have accepted him because he would be a good father?
In a marital relationship respect of both partners is important, here Mauli is accepting Kunal with all his wrongdoings but Kunal won't ever accept Mauli with all her goodness, he is accepting her for the child she is carrying in her womb... Do you see that?


Its not about children are more important or women are child making machines! ITS ABOUT LOVE...
Mauli was in love with kunal so she was ready to accept him... Women do that, everyone can't just let go their love even if it is killing them... & even she didn't want him to come back just for a child... So the show does not show a woman accepting a cheating man for child but for herself and her LOVE...women are forgiving in general they love a lottt & i don't feel its weakness or something... But they surely need to understand a bit more worth of their self and who is worthy of them

Kunal on the other hand loved the other woman in the story so he only came back for the child in her womb that too at the request of the woman he LOVED...
Kunal(man) didn't love mauli (woman) so he didn't come back for her... But he loved his child right... In this case child was not more but the only important thing to come back for..

& about your question "if the children are more important than a woman giving birth to them" I would say when a doctor needs to make a decision to save the child or mother they choose mother over the child so the life of woman is more important than the child in her womb...A loving and sane man also chooses her wife to be saved even though he loves his child too...When in broken marriages people don't love each other so they just compromise to live together for their child and itsfuture because of mutual LOVE for their child .
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: FruitToasty

@Charu

So we have established -
1 Kunal went to Mauli for the child
2 We can't say whether it would have been good for Mishti or not... That's a different thing

But my point is not from perspective of a father or a child, I am talking about that woman Mauli, even if Kunal wanted to come back for the child, isn't that insulting to Mauli as a woman?
After all the humiliation and accusations that kunal meted out to her, she should have accepted him because he would be a good father?
In a marital relationship respect of both partners is important, here Mauli is accepting Kunal with all his wrongdoings but Kunal won't ever accept Mauli with all her goodness, he is accepting her for the child she is carrying in her womb... Do you see that?


see my dear. first IMO we must not try to analyze whether the woman has an identity without her child or not. why should we prioritize? father is also important to the child, mother also , why debate on who is "more" important ? a woman is more important or a woman carrying a mans child? both deserve respect equally. Please dont misread my comments . I hate Kunal for coming back to her for his child and doing all that.


It is def insulting to MAuli and thats why she decided to lie. dont we all know? and i agree to it...It was her decision to lie and i genuinely support it !!! till the time the child is born , a mother has full rights over him because she is carrying him. the law gives the woman the right to decide if she wants to go for abortion if i am correct? NO WAY she should have accepted Kunal but WHY do we fail to see the story from HER perspective. this is OUR right and wrong and its different from what Mauli thinks. What she decided at that moment was right in my perspective and i would have liked to see Kunals redemption and Maulis indifference to Kunal also. but it never happened. so i didnt complain. i just stopped watching it. why rack our brains over something which is not our taste?


What the point in discussing what COULD have happened and what should have happened when it NEVER happened? how can we guess? may be Kunal would have left MAuli AFTER the child was born? may be they divorced and raised the child together? may be Kunal actually would have mended his ways and realized his mistakes and forget Nandini? exactly how can we figure out? because of the situation at THAT time correct? no ! even this way the analysis is meaningless.



At the end of the day we have to analyze them as humans who make mistakes. not bring them to the perfection level of our mind ,

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