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Posted: 6 years ago
#11
Nandini could have fallen for and had sex with any married man except her BFf's husband.
She made too many mistakes.
What about kunal ?
He is the one who swayed her brainless thoughts.
Plus Kunal did not have any mental issues.
He had hormonal issues.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#12
I guess its not possible to make ppl understand about Nandini coz it looks like ppl have already decided to bash her and degrade her more and more ..
here I am saying esp about language they are using on social media ..
such hate for a fictional char??

hey ..you came with such a sensible post ..thanks ..we need to understand this is story of flawed characters..
for me all three are wrong in this directly /indirectly ..knowingly /unknowingly..
and Nandini's story is not just other women in Kunal's life ..her story is related to more issues too like abusive marriage and she has been through really hard times..she also deserve happiness and what she has done ..she will pay for it but as you said ..here some are so impatient that they can't ready to give chance to Nandini..
and many times CV's failed to deliver the reasons..the justifications and they have shown divine things like I also didn't like baba giving gyan to Nandini about Kunal her soulmate..but Indian telly does shows may such things which are not with proper reasoning ..they just show and move on.. here..they didn't show the right emotional connect..and just rushed for sake of their twists ..and now Nandini is getting backlash more..and getting personal is something so unbelievable ..why to bash an actor ? and why even one go overboard while criticizing a char.

also I didn't like Mauli saying Nandini to dance and win the competition ..you know she is not feeling well yet you just keep on saying and all bossy around..but than its Cv's who do keep on changing char and don't make them consistence and having said that in Nandini's case ..just bashing her and blaming her for every thing happening is not done..

I am happy you too noticed this ..and posted.👏



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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: music_l0ver036

That's the thing that I have a problem with. Yes Rajdeep is an animal but no one goes deeper than that. And I don't think it's only because of the fact that he's shown as evil, people just trivialize what he's done labeling him as a comic relief. Where are the posts of bashing him when he assaulted Nandani again just a few days ago? It's easy to say he sucks and then never talk about how his actions have had real effect on Nandani but then turn around and completely disregarding Nandani's approach to how she is dealing with her guilt. When Nandani is with Kunal, she forget everything about what she's doing because that's how she sees her love, all encompassing. Only when she's not with him or not thinking about him is when she realizes she's not making good decisions.

Maybe it's because I'm getting clinical experience in dealing with clients who are suffering from mental illnesses, but the bolded part is a little consistent with how someone in her shoes would behave. It's not as exaggerated as Nandani all the time, but this is an Indian show and they don't know how to write a character like Nandani. Bipolar disorder could actually be what Nandani has given how binary her behaviors are when she is with Kunal compared to everyone else. And I don't agree with your perception about the dance, full blown anxiety and stage fright are two different things. You get panic attacks and anxiety attacks when you can't deal with them properly. Remember how she was behaving when the elevator shut down and when there was no light in her apartment when she and Kunal were stuck? It's a topic that's not explored well in this show. And her guilt are consistent with the illnesses than she does have so it's hard to pinpoint the times that she's shown to be guilty.



People aren't going to make posts on Rajdeep because he is the villain of the show complete dark and makers aren't glorying Rajdeep's acts isn't that simple to understand.

And I said I found her bipolar but canonically she hasn't presented having any such things. And if we are talking about clinal experiences I will tell you persons who suffered such abuse will have strong PTSD issues and takes a long time to trust a person especially if it's a man here she easily fell for Kunal's words and how is she so sure about his love? Person who was happily with your friend 1 day back just came to you and said he had found true love in you and you jumped onto him like seriously? It just needs a common sense to at least ask a question then what's that you had with Mauli? Nandini for god sake hasn't seen anything wrong in MauNal's relationship so how can she forget about it. And please this question don't have anything to do with her past abuse it's a minimum common sense and she is no 5 years kid not to think this much.

And she should be more guilty when she is with Kunal because Kunal is Mauli's husband, every time when she sees him reality should hit she is being with other woman's husband

And sorry I could have find her guilty if after making session with Kunal she had a break down or at least a guilt on face than a creepy blush. Because that's when the affair became official
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Lol mouli is criticised for forcing nandini to dance. We all know nandini needs a push to do anything since she is not confident about herself but she does it when given a push. Nandini even sang a song for kunal infront of everyone. She wasn't comfortable but she did it. All she needs a push. Nandini is not a even a kid who can be forced. If she cannot do due to anxiety she wouldn't do it. But deep down nandini is talented she herself knows it. That was not even an issue going on in her mind it was mouli s eyes her guilt she realised mouli began to look at her differently and of course blouse opening but the first thing affected her was mouli s eyes.

If u can criticize mouli for that then how can u expect nandini to be spared for what she did? At least mouli s intention was to make her confident. What was nandini s intention behind having an affair with mouli s husband? To destroy her life.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhiya_12



People aren't going to make posts on Rajdeep because he is the villain of the show complete dark and makers aren't glorying Rajdeep's acts isn't that simple to understand.

And I said I found her bipolar but canonically she hasn't presented having any such things. And if we are talking about clinal experiences I will tell you persons who suffered such abuse will have strong PTSD issues and takes a long time to trust a person especially if it's a man here she easily fell for Kunal's words and how is she so sure about his love? Person who was happily with your friend 1 day back just came to you and said he had found true love in you and you jumped onto him like seriously? It just needs a common sense to at least ask a question then what's that you had with Mauli? Nandini for god sake hasn't seen anything wrong in MauNal's relationship so how can she forget about it. And please this question don't have anything to do with her past abuse it's a minimum common sense and she is no 5 years kid not to think this much.

And she should be more guilty when she is with Kunal because Kunal is Mauli's husband, every time when she sees him reality should hit she is being with other woman's husband

And sorry I could have find her guilty if after making session with Kunal she had a break down or at least a guilt on face than a creepy blush. Because that's when the affair became official

but every problem doesn't have to stated matter of factly for the viewers to understand. I guess that's why a lot of people are having a hard time understanding Nandani's guilt because it's not presented as guilt is normally presented. When she shivers or cries at the drop of a hat and thinks the world is ending when something small happens that she can't control and pair that with her mental ilnesses that is also not outright stated by the makers, you get a complex human being. When you bash her and call her names, you're not even considering that she could be redeemable. Yes she has made a huge mistake but now with all this hatred, it seems like people are not wanting to hear any part of her story that shows her in a good light. Like I said, you have to see people as layers that do bad things in their life. Nandani is not a big bad wolf that is out to get Mauli, she is being swept away in emotions and thinking that she found the person she was looking for. It's not fair to Mauli whatsoever but it's something that should be carefully analyzed instead of calling her names.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: music_l0ver036

But the show was going to have this premise regardless. Now it's time to patient and see how it unfolds rather than hating on the characters every move unjustly. And they aren't portrayed as grey but you have to read between the lines and see humans as either good or bad. Good people do bad things all the time. You can't see them as perfect angels who are not allowed to make mistake. I know that's what the show is trying to portray but we know by living our lives that its more complicated than that and you have to give people the benefit of the doubt.



Adultery isn't a mistake! It's a grave sin!!! Mistake is a one time thing, it isn't a mistake when you continue doing something while knowing it's wrong! Going by your explanation every wrongdoing should be given the benefit of the doubt and thus no concept of right and wrong! Everyone feels a different way about the characters and they have every right to do so! Actor bashing would be wrong but character bashing isn't! N knowing the way these soaps go, besides Rajdeep, everyone's actions are gonna be justifiable by the end making it more disgusting!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I read a few lines of your angry post

its not the viewers fault that the writers of the show did such a bad job with nandini's character that she is now seen worst then a rapist.

I understand that the writers needed a reason for nandini to fall for kunal and the only way they saw that they could was showing her as an abused weak character.

however they made a mistake by showing the love story BTW kunal and her as pure.

more sensitivity needed to be shown by the writers and producers. they simply should not have made the romance typical to a normal couple.

the shivering vibrator is terribly annoying

BT it is shocking that the producers and writers have in a twisted way made fans root for nandini and kunal to be tortured by any1. ppl want to see them being made to feel pike scum and they even willing to watch rajdeep to it.

its the writers fault that resulted in the sort of criticism that has been leveled out by fans and non fans.

BT u should cool down. to justify EMA I have seen fans say its just a show. and I think u should also take it like that.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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There have been enough discussion on clinical insight on Nandini's situation even when makers have done absolutely nothing to show this which they should have done in the first place. A lot of people have come in this forum with their real life experiences to somehow understand Nandini, her psyche, her actions, but makers aren't bothered to go that road at all.
There have been enough discussion on this relationship of Kunal-Nandini is more of Dom-Sub type, where Kunal commands her & she happily obliges & Kunal then rewards her with love. ONly thing here is that the level of hardcore sexual thing isn't shown here. Even there makers haven't done anything to show this angle.

Rajdeep is pure evil & there is no layer to it. He hasn't shown any layer. He doesn't expect to be discussed since he hasn't been shown with traits that should be discussed.

Nandini-Kunal are the main characters who have shown layers at the extreme end, nothing in between. They are the one whom makers have tried to show in a good light even when their actions depict the opposite. The contrasting difference between their first impression & present impression has forced people to talk about it.

As far as Mauli is concerned, as soon as someone can see a flaw in Mauli,, makers immediately come up with a track to cover that & show that this wasn't a flaw. Mauli has been improvised on almost a daily basis.

As far as dancing competition is concerned, Mauli pushed Nandini to stage because she knew Nandini loves dancing, she had seen her dancing in the morning with so much happiness, & she tried to help her get over the cold feet Nandini was having & also the incident of morning to instill new confidence in her by letting her earn the appreciation for her talent. And Nandini was enjoying her dance performance completely so much that she didn't even realize the open zip. That was the momentary effect on her. She didn't send her on stage to get insulted. If the wardrobe malfunction had happened, I am pretty sure, Mauli would have been the one to blame herself for that. And Rajdeep was clearly bashed for that cheap antics of himself.

If Mauli was at fault to push her, Nandini was at fault to not say NO convincingly. Unconvinced NO never works on close friends. They will always push you unless you clearly voice out a NO.
I don't think I can blame my best friends for trying hard to cheer me up when they see me stressed or depressed. Even I would do the same for them.

As for Kunal, everyone has been calling him pathetic. Nandini is being talked about more because she literally yearned for friendship for all those years, she was in guilt for not believing Mauli over Rajdeep, then how did she become so ignorant about the friendship again.

When she didn't have a friend, she wanted Mauli. When she didn't have a husband, she wanted spousal love. So, where does satisfaction come for her. She could have waited for it, but she AGREED to get into the relationship when she had made up her mind to leave the city. WHY?

The plight of abused women has been so messed up in this show just for the sake of TRPs by the writers themselves for which they went on to butcher the two characters completely.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@sandiab and @arshi_asya
I agree with whatever you guys said word for word!
Nandini and Kunal's character has been butchered by the writers to such an extent and they're garnering this much hate!
They can't be shown romancing like any other normal tv couple because they aren't a usual couple! If they hadn't shown the disgusting sex scene then things would still be very much under control! Even most of the normal couples intimacy is usually implied and there isn't always an elaborate consummation scene in all the shows then why was it necessary here??? What did they expect??? That people will melt seeing their disgusting lustful moments??? I dunno how much say an actor has while filming those scenes but if they do then how I wish the actors would've put their foot down here because it isn't a regular romantic couple we're witnessing onscreen but a couple is being shown committing adultery which isn't acceptable at least for most of the people!
N exactly all the clinical insights have failed in Nandini's defense because it's not coming from the showmakers but Nandini's apologists or neutrals!
And yes the most abhorrent factor about Nandini is her betrayal towards a friend like Mauli! Nothing justifies backstabbing someone who's as selfless as Mauli!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I think every human being deserves a chance. We all know that they have committed a sin but that does not mean that we have to look at their every action with prejudiced glasses. Yes, its done, they have broken Mauli. But sometimes there is redemption and I think its high time, we start keeping an open-mind to see her next actions. We need to judge both of them on their effort and their actions based on the circumstances from this moment on. We do not have to like her, we do not have to support her but we should atleast give her benefit of doubt for their next actions. This was an EMA show and however they showed it to us, we were going to reach this point.

We cannot keep saying that her every action is to gain sympathy or her shivering/tears is an act. I think they have shown it more that enough times for us to accept that it is part of her personality. Just because we cannot relate to her does not mean such people do that exist. Frankly, I am surprised that they had the guts to go face Mauli because in real life, most of the time people run away instead of standing to face the wrath. That would not have been easy for both of them but that was necessary for Mauli to start taking her first step to recovery. But instead of giving them a tiny-miny credit, all of us have already found her guilty, condemned her to suffer for all of her life and waiting to take pleasure in it.

If thats the attitude we keep, then in real life, when a person makes a mistake they will not even try to improvise on it, because well they have crossed the line and based on what I have been reading on this forum, good to bad is a one way street and there is no coming back.

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