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Posted: 6 years ago
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One thing that I don't understand from the posts in this forum is that Nandani is viewed as this shrewd woman that no one should be allowed to forgive or understand her pain. And if we do feel bad for her, we are seen as showing sympathy (like its a bad thing) instead of the fair judgement we put on her because of the struggles she has faced. Her behaviors are seen as good vs bad instead of on a continuum, like any other human behavior. Part of being human is that there is room to grow and you're allowed to make mistakes and the whole world doesn't have to treat you as a criminal if you do a few things that aren't labeled perfect.
Yes, she is having an affair with a married man. Yes, you should criticize her for that. BUT ONLY THAT. Nothing else. In this forum, people have taken to make posts comparing her actions with Rajdeep's action and they are, without realizing the implications of their words, saying what Nandani is doing is worse than what Rajdeep did/is doing. Let me tell you something. When you say that a victim is just like the perpetrator because she did ONE thing that he he did, in this scenario, that makes you a rape and domestic abuse apologist. I feel for Mauli, I really really do, however, don't you dare compare Nandani's actions to rajdeeps actions. Even tho they both did ONE thing that was similar (well actually you should compare Rajdeep and Kunal's actions here since it was the men that slept with someone outside of their marriage), doesn't mean that the comparison should be made. It's not as black and white as that.The behavior wasn't driven with the same thoughts in mind. I know y'all hate women, which is pretty obvious from the amount of posts blaming Nandani instead of or more than Kunal but come on. Also, I don't agree with the notion that Nandani is a woman and she should think twice about hurting another woman and blah blah blah, I'm sorry that you're putting women's actions on a damn pedestal all the time that if something goes wrong, one misstep, and it's the end of the damn world.
More importantly, the implications made by people that we were only shown Nandani's abuse was to justify the EMA or to gain sympathy from the viewers when Nandani does fall in love with Kunal is so wrong. You all are acting like what Nandani did was so abhorrent and so terrible and she can't be forgiven no matter what is not a great mindset. Nandani didn't rape anyone, she didn't kill anyone, and putting her in the same standard as someone who did do those vile things is unfair. Everyone knows of the trauma that Nandani went through for years and it hasn't even been started to get resolved. They keep saying she's depressed but like can the show do something about that? Just because you take a few steps to move on with your life, doesn't mean you're set and never regress and take a few steps back. With things like this, you need time and support, and resources to move on. And then when she was taking steps to move on from her old life, she fell in love with the wrong person. Person who is giving her love and support. How many posts in this forum talk about Kunal 's incessant need to "save" Nandini? He is not the one with the trauma and years of mental abuse, he is the one that initiated everything. Nandani was leaving the city and Kunal stopped her. Kunal is not even getting half the backlash Nandani is getting. It is sexist. You guys are being very very impatient and not letting the story unfold before you come with 5 million reasons why Nandani should not be allowed to live her life, so much as so that she should die?
The words used to describe Nandani is actually so disgusting. SO many people are not even critically thinking why Nandani would betray Mauli, all they can think is that she should not have done it. The whole point of the show was to show that these things happen. Like I implied before, you can't judge people at face value. There are layers. People are part of their environment. They have context and it should be considered before you say awful things about them.
I don't know how many times I've said this but if the writers knew how to write a woman who is escaping the kind of life Nandani is trying to escape from, then we wouldn't have this conversation. Nandani wanted a man who understood her, and unfortunately it was her best friends husband. When she realizes this, she leaves the house, plans to leave the city and comes the shitty asshole and tells her not to because he is so in love with her. Of course, she goes to him. Of course Mauli is not the first thing that comes to her mind because more than anything, a supportive, loving husband is what she has wanted all her life. It's sad that the flair of Indian TV shows was added with mentions of divine intervention or whatever but the fact remains that whatever is happenning with Nandani is still part of her traumatic episode. She is still being manipulated and now in the name of love instead of hatred so it's less apparent to Nandani and viewers. Her feelings are displaced and she even said recently that she wanted both love and friend.
You don't have to love Nandani, heck you don't even have to like her, but it is important that you not bash and berate and belittle her every chance you get. If she doesn't feel guilty, there's an uproar. If she does feel guilty, y'all make fun or her anxiety and depression (her shivers, the tears) and say that it's not enough. Guilt, like other emotions manifests in different ways. Just because Nandani doesn't react to certain things or reacts in ways that you don't understand or like, doesn't mean she's not feeling guilty. And while we are at her anxiety, I have seen exactly 0 posts criticizing Mauli for forcing her to dance at the competition. I was so angry because when you are as anxious as Nandani, and you put on the pressure of dancing in front of people and on top of that Mauli wanted Nandani to win the competition? Yeah no I didn't agree with that. Point is so many characters are flawed here but blame is always on Nandani. She is the one everyone is pointing the finger at. Enough is enough!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I for one will never compare Rajdeep and Nandini, Rajdeep isn't human for me he is animal.
Everyone have/had sympathy for the abuse she went through because of Rajdeep at least me.

And who said Kunal isn't getting bashing, in fact he was more bashed than Nandini in beginning actually everyone rooting Nandini choosing Mauli over Kunal because both girls deserved better


And Nandini getting more criticism is because she didn't ruined some woman's life but a best friend's life with a affair. The friend who brought her from hell, friend who gave her a new life, who fought with a animal like Rajdeep for her. And most importantly even seeing how it feels when you see your husband sleeps with other women , being a victim herself gave same pain to other that too to her BFF who gave her new hope.

And coming to her guilt sessions again there's no consistency it's like minutes thing she never actually shown guilty for sleeping with a married man. She behaves bipolar. Inconsistency issues her words and actions don't go hand in hand.


And yes even I kind of upset with Mauli pressuring Nandini to go for a dance competition but the thought process behind is to make her confident enough to face people. Like a friend who wants your other friend to show their talent to world.


And yes for me a woman who with full conscience breaks another woman's house especially if it's your own friend without any guilt (not minutes guilt which will be gone the minute Kunal hugs her) isn't forgivable. When you can't stay loyal to the person who fought with world for your happiness and freedom , gave you love and care still you chose to ruin their house sorry to say are the least person to be trusted.


PS: Just like 2 wrongs don't make a thing right, same way no one's past how painful it maybe give you right to ruin someone's life. For me KuNan are equally wrong, Nandini more because she just didn't went for any other married man but the man of a woman who is BFF and soul sister
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Posted: 6 years ago
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And another thing can people stop getting personal with whoever don't agree with their Nandini's POV with passing remarks like hypocrites, judgemental and sexists. Like seriously dude don't get personal🤪👎🏼
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I really dunno why you're under the impression that people don't hate Kunal! I'm just as much disgusted with Kunal as Nandini if not more!
Feelings can develop at any point without any explanation but when u act upon them then it's SOLELY YOU who who's going to be blamed for it!
Adultery is the most disgusting act and when the characters do it, they will be shamed for it! All the Nandini apologists need to understand that! Granted Rajdeep and Nandini's actions can't be compared but you know why are Nandini/Kunal hated more than him? It's because he's evil and shown as such but Nandini and Kunal aren't even portrayed as grey characters! There's apologists left and right trying to present justifications for them and these justifications will do nothing more but garner more hate for the characters!
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhiya_12

And another thing can people stop getting personal with whoever don't agree with their Nandini's POV with passing remarks like hypocrites, judgemental and sexists. Like seriously dude don't get personal🤪👎🏼



Exactly! Like Kunal and Nandini make people's skin crawl with their PDA and disgusting romance so they will be bashed regardless! They wanted to show EMA great, didn't have to show them going touchy feely every minute 🤢
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhiya_12

I for one will never compare Rajdeep and Nandini, Rajdeep isn't human for me he is animal.

Everyone have/had sympathy for the abuse she went through because of Rajdeep at least me.

And who said Kunal isn't getting bashing, in fact he was more bashed than Nandini in beginning actually everyone rooting Nandini choosing Mauli over Kunal because both girls deserved better


And Nandini getting more criticism is because she didn't ruined some woman's life but a best friend's life with a affair. The friend who brought her from hell, friend who gave her a new life, who fought with a animal like Rajdeep for her. And most importantly even seeing how it feels when you see your husband sleeps with other women , being a victim herself gave same pain to other that too to her BFF who gave her new hope.

And coming to her guilt sessions again there's no consistency it's like minutes thing she never actually shown guilty for sleeping with a married man. She behaves bipolar. Inconsistency issues her words and actions don't go hand in hand.


And yes even I kind of upset with Mauli pressuring Nandini to go for a dance competition but the thought process behind is to make her confident enough to face people. Like a friend who wants your other friend to show their talent to world.


And yes for me a woman who with full conscience breaks another woman's house especially if it's your own friend without any guilt (not minutes guilt which will be gone the minute Kunal hugs her) isn't forgivable. When you can't stay loyal to the person who fought with world for your happiness and freedom , gave you love and care still you chose to ruin their house sorry to say are the least person to be trusted.


PS: Just like 2 wrongs don't make a thing right, same way no one's past how painful it maybe give you right to ruin someone's life. For me KuNan are equally wrong, Nandini more because she just didn't went for any other married man but the man of a woman who is BFF and soul sister

That's the thing that I have a problem with. Yes Rajdeep is an animal but no one goes deeper than that. And I don't think it's only because of the fact that he's shown as evil, people just trivialize what he's done labeling him as a comic relief. Where are the posts of bashing him when he assaulted Nandani again just a few days ago? It's easy to say he sucks and then never talk about how his actions have had real effect on Nandani but then turn around and completely disregarding Nandani's approach to how she is dealing with her guilt. When Nandani is with Kunal, she forget everything about what she's doing because that's how she sees her love, all encompassing. Only when she's not with him or not thinking about him is when she realizes she's not making good decisions.
Maybe it's because I'm getting clinical experience in dealing with clients who are suffering from mental illnesses, but the bolded part is a little consistent with how someone in her shoes would behave. It's not as exaggerated as Nandani all the time, but this is an Indian show and they don't know how to write a character like Nandani. Bipolar disorder could actually be what Nandani has given how binary her behaviors are when she is with Kunal compared to everyone else. And I don't agree with your perception about the dance, full blown anxiety and stage fright are two different things. You get panic attacks and anxiety attacks when you can't deal with them properly. Remember how she was behaving when the elevator shut down and when there was no light in her apartment when she and Kunal were stuck? It's a topic that's not explored well in this show. And her guilt are consistent with the illnesses than she does have so it's hard to pinpoint the times that she's shown to be guilty.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I don't understand the constant hate filled posts either. I mean it's been established that no one here in this forum would want to be Nandini or be a part of an affair with a married man, then what's the issue? You guys are the viewers watching this show and from the responses not one would be like Nandini then why the furore? Why so much hate? None of you would ever do what she did. I understand the support for Mauli but if we are talking hypothetically then none of you would ever be Nandini to your Mauli so she is safe.


Now hypothetically there are Maulis and nandinis out there but y'all are safe so what's with so much name calling? I mean this a series right? I don't use the word hate specifically over a fictional character but I don't like the glorification of an affair and making it godly either but I know it's not affecting me.

I get that the forum is for discussion and constructive arguments are so much fun to rebut rather than name calling. To be honest, no one will ever do what Nandini did, yet she gets so much name calling which is ironic in a way. I think some of the name calling could be related with the individual's own shortcomings and therefore they compensate by calling a fictional character bad names. Otherwise what sane and educated person who will never do what Nandini did, call her such disgusting names?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Of course Mauli is not the first thing that comes to her mind because more than anything, a supportive, loving husband is what she has wanted all her life.
@bold.. This says it all...She never valued friendship . . All she wanted was men . . How can I give someone the pain I have gone through ? Just bcz she had horrible past doesn't gives her license to destroy someone's life...She snatched everything from her bff who tried to give her everything... 😡

I do agree Nandin & Rajdeep are not to be compared at all.

Yes, Mauli did forced Nandini for dance competition. . But it was all for Nandini's good so that she gains Confidence . . & Sud realize how talented she is... She asked Nandini to win...not for her own self but for Nandini...we never ask someone to lose a competition , isn't it?
We always ask them to win !! It's just that ppl are trying hard to find flaws in Mauli's character.👏


Nandini is SELFISH & that's a fact.. Kunal never forced her...yes he was d one who initiated all dis...
Both deserves equal bashing .
you reap what you sow. you eventually have to face up to the consequences of your actions. .

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: anmirza

I really dunno why you're under the impression that people don't hate Kunal! I'm just as much disgusted with Kunal as Nandini if not more!
Feelings can develop at any point without any explanation but when u act upon them then it's SOLELY YOU who who's going to be blamed for it!
Adultery is the most disgusting act and when the characters do it, they will be shamed for it! All the Nandini apologists need to understand that! Granted Rajdeep and Nandini's actions can't be compared but you know why are Nandini/Kunal hated more than him? It's because he's evil and shown as such but Nandini and Kunal aren't even portrayed as grey characters! There's apologists left and right trying to present justifications for them and these justifications will do nothing more but garner more hate for the characters!

But the show was going to have this premise regardless. Now it's time to patient and see how it unfolds rather than hating on the characters every move unjustly. And they aren't portrayed as grey but you have to read between the lines and see humans as either good or bad. Good people do bad things all the time. You can't see them as perfect angels who are not allowed to make mistake. I know that's what the show is trying to portray but we know by living our lives that its more complicated than that and you have to give people the benefit of the doubt.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Of course Mauli is not the first thing that comes to her mind because more than anything, a supportive, loving husband is what she has wanted all her life.

@bold.. This says it all...She never valued friendship . . All she wanted was men . . How can I give someone the pain I have gone through ? Just bcz she had horrible past doesn't gives her license to destroy someone's life...She snatched everything from her bff who tried to give her everything... 😡

I do agree Nandin & Rajdeep are not to be compared at all.

Yes, Mauli did forced Nandini for dance competition. . But it was all for Nandini's good so that she gains Confidence . . & Sud realize how talented she is... She asked Nandini to win...not for her own self but for Nandini...we never ask someone to lose a competition , isn't it?
We always ask them to win !! It's just that ppl are trying hard to find flaws in Mauli's character.👏


Nandini is SELFISH & that's a fact.. Kunal never forced her...yes he was d one who initiated all dis...
Both deserves equal bashing .
you reap what you sow. you eventually have to face up to the consequences of your actions. .

I am trying to see Nandani from a clinical perspective and you are not even realizing the full scope of it. It's not as simple as choosing men over friendship, it's the reason behind why she's doing it. And no Nandani shouldn't have been forced to perform, you don't treat a delicate issue like anxiety by pushing them to do things you are super uncomfortable with. And what if Nandani's blouse was all open? Then what? I get Mauli didn't know it was gonna happen but I still didn't like how that was treated. I can see it as her building confidence but it still rubs me the wrong way.

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