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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: FruitToasty

Or we are complicating a very simple thing, Nandini is supposed to be flawed, why look for reasons to see her as flawless?

If Nandini witnessed only bad marriages and for the first time she saw a marriage which wasn't bad but doesn't Kunal's love for her shatter the image of a good wedding? How easy it was for Kunal to forget everything he had for Mauli in matter of a month, if it was about not seeing good marriage, Kunal and Mauli's marriage isn't exactly good and the problem is not Mauli, it's Kunal so why would Nandini fall for a bad husband?

Or she just picks men over women, she picked Rajdeep over Mauli now she picked Kunal over Mauli, the problem isn't that kunal was a bad husband because that's not even a thing, Kunal is good to Nandini, if Kunal had cheated on Mauli with nurse in his office, on whose side do you think Nandini would have been? Mauli's right? Now Kunal cheated on Mauli but he cheated on her with Nandini, so she doesn't care, that's the flaw

Don't we all live with people? Nandini is not mogli, your interpretation would have been apt for mogli, a woman, who was brought from jungle and married one man who beat her and kept her in isolation then she witnessed Maunal

I don't think writer is trying to say that or this is even a gap, it's crystal clear that Nandini is a flawed character

I disagree. Yes she is flawed and what may seem like justification to you is people simply trying to understand where she is coming from. People have motives and feelings and like others have said Nandani is not a cave woman, she knows the meaning of friendship so why would she do this? I am trying to understand exactly that. Almost everyone here knows that what Nandani is doing is wrong. I am not giving reasons as to why I think it's right that she's doing so but I'm trying to find reasons as to why Nandani would think what she did is right. I am trying to put myself in Nandani's shoes and get her perspective.
You can argue till you're blue in the face that she shouldn't have betrayed Mauli at all and that is the end of it. However, I feel like that is too black and white way of looking at the situation especially because we are given SO MUCH to work with. Nandani and Mauli is literally the only two interesting characters in the show for me. Kunal cannot stand his own ground and if not as a husband, he should have told Mauli as a friend of 7+ years that he can't reciprocate his feelings anymore.
Anyways, back to Nandani, I appreciate that we are given a character that has gone through heaps of trauma, trying to get out of it with the help of some great people, getting feelings for her best friends husband, and now trying to make sense of it all while her PTSD, depression, anxiety and what have you is still high up there. That is a lot for one person to go through, we all know it is. And I'm gonna be a social worker so this is literally gold mine for me in terms of "ecological perspective" lmao. Super interesting theory, look it up. But I'm going to go into Family Systems for the most part.
We learn from what we see. When you're a child and you repeatedly see something, you tend to fixate on it and hold it as true, it's all very superficial to them. They think you're literally not there when you're playing peek-a-boo. If one thing is wrong then it is interpreted as wrong in every scenario when thats not feasible in real life. For example, running a red light is illegal but children would assume that you would go to jail for it. All or nothing. But as we grow up and have experiences of the real world, and understand that it's not as simple as breaking a law or not. Everything has a context to it. 20 year old drinking alc and 7 year old drinking alc is both illegal but the parents of 7 year will probably hear from DCF. The context is important.
That was a base of what I'm trying to explain in terms of ecological perspective which explains why people do what they do. And it takes into account a person in their environment. lmao, sorry this is gonna be long.
Nandani, although not a child, has been in the midst of a bad marriage since she was born. Her parents barely spoke to each other, that's her first introduction. Trust me when I say, growing up in a household with bad marriage leaves so many issues that you didn't even know existed. And then you end up in a bad marriage yourself and Nandani doesn't question it too much because she thinks its normal. The argument of her leaving her house to find a happy couple is not strong because she doesn't care about those couple or those marriages. She's going to care about the ones that she will have to live with and hear about and subconsciously learn about her worth through.
When she sees Kunal and Mauli together, after livining in their house, she thinks to her self that wow I never realized marriage also meant happiness. She doesn't have any real life examples she's been part of that tells her otherwise. So no she's fixated on Kunal because she is overcompensating from all the times she didn't have this bond. That's why it's interesting to me because she could have gone the other way just as well but she didn't. People don't always make the right choices. But we still have to treat them like people and want them to get better. I want Nandani to get out of Kunal and Mauli's life and make an identity of herself. You can shun her and say she doesn't deserve shit after what she did to mauli and that is your right but I want Nandani to live a fully functional life.

wow I'm getting way too heated over a fictional character and I was ranting at parts but I hope this made sense. This is literally the first time that I found a character to be this interesting and three dimensional.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@music_lover036 -- googled this ecological perspective and felt like I was reading some text book. kekekek... so not sure if I understood the theory but is the idea that you have to look at different factors including habitat, self-esteem, culture before formulating any social work kind of scheme? and how does this apply to nandini?
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Pamk06- No more confused Kunal please🤔

In the last episode, he looked like this scared little boy, who was trying to escape a good scolding from the adults for the mischief he has done. And the last scene,😆he was soo shocked to see Mauli in a 'chandi' avatar. Honestly, I thought she may whack him one with that dandiya stick.



Seriously, that was so funny, he was not scared to do such a big mishap and now he is getting scared to step out of the house 😆 . Mauli should have, he would have come back to his senses. Also, when he told Nandini, I will take you for a drive and ice cream, I was like, "please go away and send the other one back. She is not Mauli who is happy to make amends with green tea, she is Nandini, she needs emotional security which has been lacking for all her life

I totally loathe this version of his. I like the other version, Nandini's one. I hope in the next track we see only that who is little serious, tough, firm and not this hopeless one. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@music_lover036 -- googled this ecological perspective and felt like I was reading some text book. kekekek... so not sure if I understood the theory but is the idea that you have to look at different factors including habitat, self-esteem, culture before formulating any social work kind of scheme? and how does this apply to nandini?

yes! So we would have to prepare what we need to be aware of before we even talk to clients. Let's say the client is Nandani, so her abusive husband, her parent's marriage, as well as being a young woman in the society she is in would factor into how we would approach her. So first rule is to never judge them but to make clear of their actions, not if it's right or wrong, merely the fact that it happened. So we can't see her as an individual only but see her as an individual with all her context of her environment. If we saw her as an individual, we would consider her to be amoral since she is having an affair with a married man. But given her context of having an abusive husband, it makes sense that she would cling to the first man that gave her the respect she deserves. Also, you would have to consider how big marriage is in south asian society so for Nandani to break that bond is a lot. And even before that, just getting away from an abusive relationship (and not going back to him) is big too that factors into her decision to be with Kunal. Nandani has a tunnel vision and all she sees is Kunal (she probs think she deserves him too after her bad luck too who knows?) and her lack of concern for Mauli makes no sense given the two women's friendship but idk how to explain that. I'm only on my first semester lmao and also the writing is severely lacking when it comes to Nandani and her mental illness.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@music_lover036~ ah, got it! :)

re: question from @fruittoasty -- Anyway, moving on I have a question do you think KuNan's love is pretty much on the surface?

so the CVs have presented typical kind of stuff that happens in other dramas -- they dramatically meet. she trips, her dupatta flies in the air like for five minutes and lands in his face. there is lots of music and lots of stares and silences till the ad break. then after we see ad for some heart cholestral oil, some masala packet and a few other serial ads, we get back to our main drama where basically the two are still staring till someone honks the car behind them. then they break apart and glare at each other and leave... then they meet again in some dangerous situation and he rescues her. she for some reason does not wish to thank him and would rather stare at his face angrily. he also stares at her angrily wishing that he had not wasted his time... 😆

or if it was a chatty drama, then they would argue and argue in between staring at each other for minutes on end till the next ad break. hahahahaha...😆

we usually buy this kind of drama serial love. we don't really analyze if it is true love or false love or whether these two people even are right for each other. they are the pairing and we generally cheer for them based on some winning chemistry, good looks and we eat up all those stares and silences as romantic tension.

here, these two are having an affair and for most people, their brain did not get switched off for whatever reason. was it the writing or was it the situation itself? whatever the reason, we find our brain switched on and a little aghast that the romance happened with so little on surface. other than CVs pounding on the head with the divine angle, we didn't have much to understand on why these two are so drawn to each other and what it is that they seek in each other.

perhaps, if this was a regular romance serial where the two were single, we might think of it as romantic?
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: music_l0ver036

yes! So we would have to prepare what we need to be aware of before we even talk to clients. Let's say the client is Nandani, so her abusive husband, her parent's marriage, as well as being a young woman in the society she is in would factor into how we would approach her. So first rule is to never judge them but to make clear of their actions, not if it's right or wrong, merely the fact that it happened. So we can't see her as an individual only but see her as an individual with all her context of her environment. If we saw her as an individual, we would consider her to be amoral since she is having an affair with a married man. But given her context of having an abusive husband, it makes sense that she would cling to the first man that gave her the respect she deserves. Also, you would have to consider how big marriage is in south asian society so for Nandani to break that bond is a lot. And even before that, just getting away from an abusive relationship (and not going back to him) is big too that factors into her decision to be with Kunal. Nandani has a tunnel vision and all she sees is Kunal (she probs think she deserves him too after her bad luck too who knows?) and her lack of concern for Mauli makes no sense given the two women's friendship but idk how to explain that. I'm only on my first semester lmao and also the writing is severely lacking when it comes to Nandani and her mental illness.



So, I totally agree that she fixated on Kunal and whatever our opinion of him, Kunal has been good to her. He has been instrumental in her gaining that independence in every facet of her life. I also do think that her love for Kunal might very well be her first love as I don't think she loved Rajdeep nor Manas who was her college friend. Both the times she fought back with Rajdeep was when he raise question in her relationship with Kunal. I also feel that she is a person who loves for life

Having said that, do you guys think even if she moves away from Kunal's life, will he always be the center of life. Will all her actions always be in relation to what he would think, what he would want etc. She might move on, may be find love too(highly doubt)but will he always be that center person who was responsible for changing her life like a mentor may be and will she be always be connected to him.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Oxoacids

Iss thread mein aisa Hai kya?😆



Are pucho mat behna. Bade gambhir log bade gambhirta se soch vichar kar rahe he 😃 Kaash iska pauna bhi humare priye creatives sochte toh isse kahi acha show milta hume 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: sunshine333



Are pucho mat behna. Bade gambhir log bade gambhirta se soch vichar kar rahe he 😃 Kaash iska pauna bhi humare priye creatives sochte toh isse kahi acha show milta hume 😆



But beech beech me yaha peep in karna aur analysis padne me maza bhi ata hai
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: sunshine333



But beech beech me yaha peep in karna aur analysis padne me maza bhi ata hai



Thanks for recommendation 😆
will give a try to read
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06


Having said that, do you guys think even if she moves away from Kunal's life, will he always be the center of life. Will all her actions always be in relation to what he would think, what he would want etc. She might move on, may be find love too(highly doubt)but will he always be that center person who was responsible for changing her life like a mentor may be and will she be always be connected to him.



If we're talking about Nandini like she was a real person then yes. See I feel Nandini and Kunal don't actually love each other. Now don't bite my head off just yet, just hear me out. For Nandini, Kunal is the first man in her life who she has seen treat a woman as an equal, who has fun banter, romanticizes her in front of others, does "women's work" around the house, etc. She fell in love with that concept of a man. Also for Kunal, somewhere he was looking for the beautiful woman who wears saris, is traditional, is looking for a shoulder, someone who he can "save" and Nandini was that woman so he fell in love with that concept.

Now when they separate, they will both realize that what they called true and divine love wasn't actually that. Nandini fell in love with the concept of a man like Kunal and since Kunal was in front of her, she considered him her true love. Same with Kunal. But whatever the situation they are still tied. Kunal, as you and music_lover said, was there for Nandini emotionally. He helped her along. He knew how to bring her out of her lows and keep her in the highs. He was her friend, her mentor, her guide. And that's not something you can forget. Nobody forgets their first mentor, their guide to the world, their friend who is always there for them. So even if they separate, Nandini will always remember that.

Now if we're talking about the Nandini that the CVs have developed, then she won't forget Kunal. She'll obsess over him. She'll hate him. She'll become a cold businesswoman who was deceived by the man she loved. And when they come face-to-face again, she'll do petty things to take revenge from him until the show is about to end when she'll suddenly realize that she was wrong and she did actually come in between Mauli and Kunal. Or she'll suddenly realize she was hurting her love, especially when Kunal finally clears all the misunderstandings and becomes hers fully.

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