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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



@charu -- think you have misunderstood; this topic from the beginning has been about the writing and characterization. so rather than our personal opinions on these characters, we are trying to understand the characters from a literary kind of angle. what are the CVs trying to say? why would these characters act in this way? our personal feelings may not agree with what these characters are doing but that is not the point of this topic. the thread here is trying to understanding the character sketch simply based on what CVs are writing and presenting.

so it is not about discrediting mauli's help but rather the question was why would nandini discredit mauli. why would nandini give kunal all the credit instead of mauli? and so we have to look at how the CVs have presented the story and try and see it from the perspective of the character of nandini.

now we may or may not agree with that line of thinking but that is not the point of this topic. it is about the story and characterization from a literary/writing kind of perspective. and it is difficult because there are super large holes in terms of writing which makes it very frustrating...


@mango when the writing is flawed (of cvs) as per you , and me , can we understand the characters well..accurately ? No..you and i and everyone here are assuming , these are our interpretations of whats being shown ..the perspective of cvs change with every episode and trps and audience reaction ..


Like you felt so strongly for dida , i could see why she did it ...but may be that wasnt enough to convince you..same is kunan story ..it may be a natural progression for their characters to you but not me ..why and how can we dissect why someone become so selfish ? Why do people give in to desires ? There is no reason except that they are selfish and self centered. If we try to reason it out we are looking for justifications because somewhere they are correct to us ..

Anyhow sorry for my overreaction ..
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: _charu_

Now i realize why is nandu so thankless and ungrateful to mauli ... When everyone discredited mauli completely and held her responsible for cracks in her marriage , what can i say ...nandu may be thinking on the similar lines and totally shunned mauli from her life . ...its kunal who actually helped her out and she was a born fighter..hhmm...sorry my bad ..




No, They are discussing what's being presented in the show. They are trying to understand Nandini's character .

Coming to the point, I think Mauli helped Nandini more than Kunal helped her, when Nandini lost her baby (I guess the biggest pain of her life) Mauli spent whole night with her, consoling her but Nandini is a woman who doesn't appreciate women, she is more inclined towards men, so next morning Kunal comes with a tea and flowers and Nandini thinks about how her marriage was bad and how Kunal is a wonderful man... Here Mauli spent whole night with her but Nandini did not think what it would have been like to have that support and love in her life, Kunal brought tea in the morning and she went high on the feels for him thinking what it would be like to have Kunal as husband so basically Nandini would have been grateful to Mauli if she was a man.
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Posted: 7 years ago
^ Mango_pudding1 Wow! Thanks for sharing that. It's not the same as nostalgia, is it?
BTW, did you notice, this thread just crossed 50 pages? So CONGRATS to everyone who contributed!! 👏 I have thoroughly enjoyed the conversations and exchange of ideas here!!!
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Posted: 7 years ago
no worries @charu -- the writing here is super flawed and I am reminded of some of the horrid books I had to read for lit class and felt like throwing across the room because they didn't make any sense. with any literary discussion, there are often interpretations that may seem like justifications and you are like "what?????" ... and it can seem a bit off even when the person points to a passage and explain why they think of it... but still these kind of discussions are fun because we learn to listen and hear a very different perspective. we don't have to agree with them but knowing that another perspective exists is always healthy and makes us more equipped to deal with real world situations. :)
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

^ Mango_pudding1 Wow! Thanks for sharing that. It's not the same as nostalgia, is it?

BTW, did you notice, this thread just crossed 50 pages? So CONGRATS to everyone who contributed!! 👏 I have thoroughly enjoyed the conversations and exchange of ideas here!!!



omo, we crossed 50 pages! wow!! congrats to everyone here who discussed in a sane manner even if we had very different perspectives. 👍🏼 it really has been super fun even if this drama is really all over the place. this thread is big part of the reason why I haven't dropped this show! hahahahah... :)

@summerrain7 -- saudade has a slightly different connotation from nostalgia. from what I read, nostalgia doesn't necessarily fill you with melancholy because you know and accept that you cannot return. but saudade fills you with a kind of melancholy because you feel like returning to that time/place/relationship and wish you can travel back.

here's from one blog:

Saudade is not nostalgia. In nostalgia, one has a mixed happy and sad feeling, a memory of happiness in the good old days, but a sadness that it is over and gone forever. Saudade is like nostalgia but with the hope that what is being longed for, might return, even if that return is so remote to be almost of no consequence to the present.

One might say nostalgia conveys a feeling one has for a loved one who has died and saudade as a feeling one has for a loved one who has disappeared or is simply absent.
http://bystander.homestead.com/Portuguese_saudade.html

here's a very interesting comparison between the two:
https://ilastinwanderlust.wordpress.com/2014/09/08/saudade-vs-nostalgia/
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Posted: 7 years ago
@mango_pudding: Amazing explanation on the word saudade. Had never heard it before so this was something new that I learnt today. Thank you!! Based on this, when Nandini must have met Mauli again after 7 years, even though they had history between them, Mauli might very well have been a stranger to her. So from that point on they started rebuilding their friendship, trust but Kunal took that place as she become more close to him. Kind of going with Mauli being an acquaintance theory that we were discussing some time back and hence no remorse. Thoughts??
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

^ Mango_pudding1 Wow! Thanks for sharing that. It's not the same as nostalgia, is it?

BTW, did you notice, this thread just crossed 50 pages? So CONGRATS to everyone who contributed!!👏I have thoroughly enjoyed the conversations and exchange of ideas here!!!



Congratulations!! 👏 This thread has really been interesting and part of the reason why I am still enjoying this show even with all divinity that CVs keep throwing at us. Thank you for different perspectives and ideas. I have really enjoyed them, more so than the show.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Question :

Knowing CVs penchant for festivals, Do you guys think Cvs are heading towards Dussehera. Its celebrated on the 10th day of Navratri which they are celebrating currently and Its a festival that celebrates the win of good over bad, the right over the wrong. So going with that, as Kunal and Nandini relationship is wrong as per the society, will it be destroyed on that day and will Mauli get justice and she will start her new journey.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06

@mango_pudding: Amazing explanation on the word saudade. Had never heard it before so this was something new that I learnt today. Thank you!! Based on this, when Nandini must have met Mauli again after 7 years, even though they had history between them, Mauli might very well have been a stranger to her. So from that point on they started rebuilding their friendship, trust but Kunal took that place as she become more close to him. Kind of going with Mauli being an acquaintance theory that we were discussing some time back and hence no remorse.



saudade really is a great word because it describes a kind of universal feeling that we all have even if that word doesn't exist in our language.

@bold - it is actually natural in many ways. people change and especially if you have had very different life experiences, then there may not be much in common to simply jump in where you left off. always thought nandini was a bit reserved and treated mauli as a person she once knew but no longer as well. for me, what has always been confusing is actually mauli's reactions because the friendship never seemed as deep or easy to jump back in like how she would excitedly describe to others. so why was she so enthusiastic? but I will admit that I didn't watch this show as closely in the beginning and so there may been lots of scenes I missed, didn't pay attention to or even watched...
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



saudade really is a great word because it describes a kind of universal feeling that we all have even if that word doesn't exist in our language.

@bold - it is actually natural in many ways. people change and especially if you have had very different life experiences, then there may not be much in common to simply jump in where you left off. always thought nandini was a bit reserved and treated mauli as a person she once knew but no longer as well. for me, what has always been confusing is actually mauli's reactions because the friendship never seemed as deep or easy to jump back in like how she would excitedly describe to others. so why was she so enthusiastic? but I will admit that I didn't watch this show as closely in the beginning and so there may been lots of scenes I missed, didn't pay attention to or even watched...





It might be because the breaking of that friendship affected Mauli more than Nandini. In that context, she might have never moved from that point. Like Mauli refused to take her name but made Kheer on her b'day. It like people who stay in foreign countries. When they leave India, they always remember it as it was at that point of time when they left and when they come back they expect it to still be the same but it's not. It does changes. So there is a kind of, I know you which is instinctive but there are lot of things that are different which needs to be relearn.

And then there is the lives they led. Mauli had a happy life, so she didn't change much and she is like an open book but Nandini abuse did have an impact and she must have become more reserved with sharing her inner feelings or trusting too. And may be for Nandini it just didn't happen after they met again. We always Mauli sharing her feelings but I do not remember any sharing from Nandini side

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