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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7


I understood the intention behind making Mauli say that particular line. But the phrasing was off. I rather wish she had said, " when did they become so close" , or even wondering out loud, " so she loves him?" What ticked me off was the comparison with her own love and care for Kunal. No wife or partner would actually do that.

Bold 1 - I agree that it is in a way typical Mauli. But we are talking about a separation here. The biggest issue here is Kunal's silence, and like you said in one of your posts here, unless Mauli gets that verbal confirmation from him her thoughts are not going to change. Also, when she talks about divorce to him, I am sure in her heart of hearts she would still be expecting him to tell her that it was all a mistake.

Bold 2 - Hard to say really! The fact that he wants to come back does indicate that, in a way he has made up his mind. But he has been with Mauli for seven years and that has to mean something and hence some memories from his subconscious coming to the fore. Like I have said before, the guy had no issues in his marriage and actually loved his wife, so it is a little unrealistic for him to be able to emotionally disconnect himself from those memories so easily.

With regards to Nandini , I saw her actions in a completely different light, as mentioned in my post.

I really wish the writers themselves would come forward and tell us what they mean by all this. Just a brief peek into the minds of the characters would do.



May be its the CV's way of telling us that Kunal-Nandini bond is more stronger and now Mauli has also accepted it. But, yes, they could have used different wording instead of comparison.


@bold 1: Exactly we are talking about separation here, infact divorce and I just did not like the reasoning for her to take that decision. I say this because she was ready to forgive Kunal and even for an reconciliation. Even when Kunal left the house, divorce was not on her mind. That decision came only after she saw Nandini and the depth of her feelings. Why Nandini? Shouldn't it be Kunal's feelings that should count here? Yes, she did realize that Kunal was serious about Nandini but the evidence was circumstantial not from the horse's mouth like Nandini. Plus, he did not go to Nandini. That should have counted for her to stop and think on what exactly is going on in his mind. I would have really liked her to meet Kunal and ask him all those tough questions. Like what does Nandini mean to him and what does he want to do? Again, the next step should be entirely her choice irrespective of what Kunal says but that decision should be because of his and her feelings not Nandini's. This just looked very self-sacrificing and impulsive to me.

Second, was her not informing anybody at home. Like marriage is a personal decision, it is still a union of two families. Similarly, though divorce is your personal decision, it does affect two families. I can understand her not informing her family but the two ladies who are supporting her do have a right to know as it going to affect them too. Yes, he did leave the house but somewhere all of them still have a hope of a reconciliation and divorce would be closing the door for Kunal to ever to come back home. I am sure even if they do go the divorce route, the two ladies will support Mauli but they still have the right to know about her decision before the filing, don't you think? I just found it very strange especially for such a big decision like divorce.

Other thing is this Mom. Like you said in your post, I just do not understand her attitude. Her son has met with an accident and there is not one worry on her face nor anger that he went to Nandini;s house nor an attempt to reunite them. Strange much?

@bold 2: Yes, she will need that verbal confirmation either ways whether he is coming back or not. Problem here is Kunal. Lying and not telling the whole truth are two different things. Whatever he says, Mauli would take that on the face value and accept that as the ultimate truth, thinking he cannot lie. But will he tell the whole truth, is something that we will have wait and see.
If we go with the montage, we see Mauli picking up the pieces that Nandini has dropped and then Mauli re-unites with Kunal but Kunal is still looking at Nandini. Same thing in the initial promos. Hence, I do hope that Mauli asks the correct questions and takes correct promises from Kunal, if she decides to reconcile else she might get Kunal back but the one whose heart is still with Nandini. They might also show him falling in love again with Mauli but then what about the whole divine angle crap that they have quoted for us.

PS: I do see him going for a drive again because thats where he does his major thinking. Hopefully he does not bang his head again. 😆😆😆. if he does Nandini, if not Mauli.😆
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

If by some shitty turn of events, Nanidni and Mauli both end up under the same roof with Kunal, I am going to use my remote control power and say bye bye to this show forever. Because that is the kind of shit that Ekta pulls and I have lived through that once. No more !!


Wow, did this really happen? Which show was this and how was it accepted?😡
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

If by some shitty turn of events, Nanidni and Mauli both end up under the same roof with Kunal, I am going to use my remote control power and say bye bye to this show forever. Because that is the kind of shit that Ekta pulls and I have lived through that once. No more !!



Ugh I'm with you. Never planning on seeing any of that crap.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06


May be its the CV's way of telling us that Kunal-Nandini bond is more stronger and now Mauli has also accepted it. But, yes, they could have used different wording instead of comparison.


@bold 1: Exactly we are talking about separation here, infact divorce and I just did not like the reasoning for her to take that decision. I say this because she was ready to forgive Kunal and even for an reconciliation. Even when Kunal left the house, divorce was not on her mind. That decision came only after she saw Nandini and the depth of her feelings. Why Nandini? Shouldn't it be Kunal's feelings that should count here? Yes, she did realize that Kunal was serious about Nandini but the evidence was circumstantial not from the horse's mouth like Nandini. Plus, he did not go to Nandini. That should have counted for her to stop and think on what exactly is going on in his mind. I would have really liked her to meet Kunal and ask him all those tough questions. Like what does Nandini mean to him and what does he want to do? Again, the next step should be entirely her choice irrespective of what Kunal says but that decision should be because of his and her feelings not Nandini's. This just looked very self-sacrificing and impulsive to me.

Second, was her not informing anybody at home. Like marriage is a personal decision, it is still a union of two families. Similarly, though divorce is your personal decision, it does affect two families. I can understand her not informing her family but the two ladies who are supporting her do have a right to know as it going to affect them too. Yes, he did leave the house but somewhere all of them still have a hope of a reconciliation and divorce would be closing the door for Kunal to ever to come back home. I am sure even if they do go the divorce route, the two ladies will support Mauli but they still have the right to know about her decision before the filing, don't you think? I just found it very strange especially for such a big decision like divorce.

Other thing is this Mom. Like you said in your post, I just do not understand her attitude. Her son has met with an accident and there is not one worry on her face nor anger that he went to Nandini;s house nor an attempt to reunite them. Strange much?

@bold 2: Yes, she will need that verbal confirmation either ways whether he is coming back or not. Problem here is Kunal. Lying and not telling the whole truth are two different things. Whatever he says, Mauli would take that on the face value and accept that as the ultimate truth, thinking he cannot lie. But will he tell the whole truth, is something that we will have wait and see.
If we go with the montage, we see Mauli picking up the pieces that Nandini has dropped and then Mauli re-unites with Kunal but Kunal is still looking at Nandini. Same thing in the initial promos. Hence, I do hope that Mauli asks the correct questions and takes correct promises from Kunal, if she decides to reconcile else she might get Kunal back but the one whose heart is still with Nandini. They might also show him falling in love again with Mauli but then what about the whole divine angle crap that they have quoted for us.

PS: I do see him going for a drive again because thats where he does his major thinking. Hopefully he does not bang his head again. 😆😆😆. if he does Nandini, if not Mauli.😆

Mauli had asked to meet Kunal already. Now , her considering divorce and talking to Kunal about divorce, can that really be considered as her final decision to separate? I belive his reaction and response (whatever it maybe) to that would be the deciding factor for her. Right now Mauli is heart broken and seeing Nandini taking care of Kunal like a wife and Kunal accepting it, is enough for her to jump into conclusions. I am not even sure whether I should call it 'jumping into conclusion' because Mauli is heat-broken, her world has come crashing down around her. I don't expect her to do any good or intelligent thinking. Desperate and extreme reactions are what I expect from her. If she had considered giving a chance before even without asking him anything, that was her desperation and now it has gone to the other extreme end, where she is considering a divorce. But like I said before , what was weird about that scene was her self talk comparing Nandini's love to her own. I am not sure whether that was intended to make her look self-sacrifical in nature. Otheriwse, I totally GET her reaction.
Having said all of that, I really want her to ask those tough questions to Kunal, because I am dying to know what his answers would be. As per the new promo (I haven't seen) Kunal is already talking about new beginnings to Nandini. My worry is Kunal and Nandini mutually deciding to separate so that he can go back to Mauli for the sake of his family. That would be disastrous.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06


Wow, did this really happen? Which show was this and how was it accepted? 😡

Well the situation in that show was a little different. The wife who was self - scarificing in nature brings the husband's ex-wife and kid (his kid) home because they have nowhere to go. This is the ex wife who cheated on the husband and ditched him for another man. And this husband who is a super rich CEO agrees to the decision, (primarily for the kid) when he could have gotten them a separate apartment very easily. And the shit that followed was unimaginable.
And I believe most Ekta shows have this zabardasti ka third angle, that will create rift between the leads repeatedly.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Characters do not have a brain of their own, it's all what the writer wants, discussion is done in depth but is she really thinking in that direction?

What's her project? She has to present an EMA where none is wrong or bad, so the wife can't be wrong nor the other woman, wife does not lack anything, but this writer has difficulties presenting POV of male characters, most of her male characters are dummies, where she uses them to glorify female characters, like there was no need for Rajdeep in this show, Rajdeep or say domestic violence is the white part of Nandini, whenever Nandini does something black, Rajdeep scene is added to compensate so the end result is grey but the problem is repetitive and illogical use of Rajdeep, the dude does nothing, I am not saying he should do something but just think about it, after Nandini came out of his house, he has done absolutely nothing, he's only active to balance Nandini's acts, he's not dangerous, we all know Kunal will save Nandini and if Kunal is not available Nandini will hit him with a stick, the guy is a joker not a villain, domestic violence and rape though heinous here Kunal who's so in love with Nandini, didn't even think about filing a domestic violence case against Rajdeep.

Development and behavior of characters depend on their past, here the problem with writer is that she can't present an inclusive show, where characters are intertwined, stories which are supposed to be parallel to each other are standalone, Nandini and Kunal's love story in no point includes that Mauli is a part of their life that's one story and other story is where Mauli is a part of their life and they are having an EMA, that's not how it works does it?

Nandini as a character is not grey, I know people love saying that she's grey but not for the writer, writer is presenting her as white as Mauli, the EMA part is Mauli's story and the love part is Nandini's story, in EMA Nandini is guilty but the reflection is not present in her love story and this is the problem, the consistency is not there because Nandini is lead in one story and Mauli is lead in another story but the show is not about love story of KuNan, it's about EMA, we can't separate KuNan love story from Mauli.

For us the show is about EMA and KuNan story is an affair not love, so the writer is giving her dialogues according to a normal love story, imagine a victim of domestic violence falling in love with a man, declaring her love for him in front of her abusive husband, a big development, no? If you take one part of Nandini's life and omit Mauli from it, her dialogues are as strong as Mauli's dialogues, But Nandini is not declaring her love for a random man but for a married man, who's married to her best friend, that's why I think the writer is not able to present Nandini with all her layers, KuNan love is repulsive, I don't think you can build your house on ruins of someone's home.

Now come to the scene in the hospital, that scene wasn't for Nandini, Nandini and Kunal were just a part of it, the scene was for Mauli, Mauli had to see that Nandini had replaced her so what she saw was that Nandini is repeating the same dialogues to doctor that Mauli said to Nandini when Kunal had that bridge accident, in this scene Nandini reaction was astonishing, it wasn't like she's in love with Kunal but Kunal is her sanak, her junoon, Mauli saw her junoon for Kunal and this chapter will close then and there, Nandini accepting herself as Mrs Kunal Malhotra is not part of Nandini's past as a character but it will be a part of Mauli's past, this was for Mauli and Mauli only from Writer's perspective, Writer was given a job to show a positive EMA, Rajdeep failed now who better than the wife itself to justify their affair?

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Mauli had asked to meet Kunal already. Now , her considering divorce and talking to Kunal about divorce, can that really be considered as her final decision to separate? I belive his reaction and response (whatever it maybe) to that would be the deciding factor for her. Right now Mauli is heart broken and seeing Nandini taking care of Kunal like a wife and Kunal accepting it, is enough for her to jump into conclusions. I am not even sure whether I should call it 'jumping into conclusion' because Mauli is heat-broken, her world has come crashing down around her. I don't expect her to do any good or intelligent thinking. Desperate and extreme reactions are what I expect from her. If she had considered giving a chance before even without asking him anything, that was her desperation and now it has gone to the other extreme end, where she is considering a divorce. But like I said before , what was weird about that scene was her self talk comparing Nandini's love to her own. I am not sure whether that was intended to make her look self-sacrifical in nature. Otheriwse, I totally GET her reaction.

Having said all of that, I really want her to ask those tough questions to Kunal, because I am dying to know what his answers would be. As per the new promo (I haven't seen) Kunal is already talking about new beginnings to Nandini. My worry is Kunal and Nandini mutually deciding to separate so that he can go back to Mauli for the sake of his family. That would be disastrous.


@bold 1: Ok, my bad. I should have waited for the episode to air before making the comment but I wrote that with the OLV segment in mind that they tele-casted. In that, apparently she directly calls him to the family court and files for the divorce without informing anybody at home which we have already seen. I do not know if they have a conversation before or not but it seems like Kunal accepts which would be in line with this character. I do not know what is Mauli's expectation here and if they do have a conversation. But If she tell him, she wants a divorce, he is not going to argue He will take it as his punishment and agree because from day 1, he has always relented to her requests with less or no objection. Here, we are talking about betrayal where she is the victim. He knows he has hurt a lot and he basically has no right to argue, so he will give in, as according to him its only her right to decide what she wants.

@bold 2: I agree that her reaction was exactly what I would have expected Mauli to have. It was a very Mauli like reaction which they have shown us from the beginning of this show. Headstrong, impulsive, making quick decisions and following on it till its done. But, in the past, her MIL has always been privy to all her deeds but here she did not even tell her. I do not know if that was intentional or just a miss on CV's part.

@bold 3: There is a strong chance of this happening. Now going into total ITV mode, first, its in line with the promo they showed us.Second, for Kunal, family is important, and for Nandini, his happiness. They might very well sacrifice their love and Mauli might agree to give second chance to her marriage based on Dida's request. This would also be their redemption and as Mauli's know about Nandini feelings, she will recognize her sacrifice, thus keeping the door open for friendship in future. It would also make sense why Kunal is not opening his mouth as this would make it easy for Mauli to accept him back as she would have never got that verbal confirmation.

Though, I would like to see the sacrifice on their part, I also do not want Mauli and Kunal to reunite but lets wait and watch, what the makers have planned for us.






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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Well the situation in that show was a little different. The wife who was self - scarificing in nature brings the husband's ex-wife and kid (his kid) home because they have nowhere to go. This is the ex wife who cheated on the husband and ditched him for another man. And this husband who is a super rich CEO agrees to the decision, (primarily for the kid) when he could have gotten them a separate apartment very easily. And the shit that followed was unimaginable.

And I believe most Ekta shows have this zabardasti ka third angle, that will create rift between the leads repeatedly.


YHM?? I can totally see that FL doing it. 😊. Hope they do not make Mauli that way. I like her with her flaws. Make her so much realistic and someone that I can relate to.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Pamk06 - oh crap!! I did not watch that OLV ! So no conversation?? Damn ! That's ridiculous. Now that I recall that scene where Mauli asks Kunal to meet her. He asks Mauli 'where' but her reply was not shown. It could very well be the family court then. Satyanash !!
Also, I loathe the very idea of Kunal sacrificing for family and Mauli even considering a patch up. I hope it doesn't go that way.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06


YHM?? I can totally see that FL doing it. 😊. Hope they do not make Mauli that way. I like her with her flaws. Make her so much realistic and someone that I can relate to.

😆 I should have just said YHM, instead of typing all that. Hehe! Yes Mauli should never become an SP bahu.

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