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@Krinya

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Posted: 7 years ago

#261

Those women may be paid or misled ..afterall nobody knows the truth but the people involved..others just gossip and leave ..there are rules to be followed in the societies in mumbai i suppose but this over dramatization was unnecessary and a basically a criminal act ..faltu episode except for mauli scene..nandini saying hum kalank hain doesnt evoke any sympathy in me ..she must realize what she has done ..she is saying all this now so that kunal negates it..

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@pamk06

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Posted: 7 years ago

#262

Originally posted by: SummerRain7
Mango_pudding1 - I swear, both the examples you have quoted, that is how it happens in real life . No on has that kind of time anymore. The little time you get away from work or other responsibilities you would ideally want to spend it peacefully with people who matter to you . But I was wondering whether Rajdeep had paid these women to do this? Or are they just random women living in the same building indulging in vigilantism?
What are your thoughts on Kunal ? Does he have serious head injury? 😆
On a serious note, I think there is no confusion in his head about who he wants to be with, and it is Nandini. The problem for him is the path that he needs to tread to be united with Nandini . It is laden with difficulties and he knows he will have to hurt many people and that will make him this man that he does not want to become. He has always considered himself as righteous and what he had done and will have to do now is conflicting with that notion. But this weighing down of consequences and this conflict is what he should have had earlier. What is the point in having it now? I know there are men like him in real life too. They choose to be so delusional while cheating and only when they get caught they become very conflicted. So then maybe, this is what the makers want to show us.
Now going forward, I think he may go on that one month trial with Mauli. But I think it is merely an act that Kunal and Mauli will put up in front of Dida, not a genuine attempt to work on their relationship. Nandini may come back to her senses during this time and go away? Or she may get pregnant? What do you think?

@bold: I think it because of your demand. You have asked for it so many times that they finally relented and showing the conflicting emotions. 😆😆😆. Little late though.

I think we will be subjected to sweet romance between Mauli and Kunal and his push and pull. There is a possibility that Nandini might get pregnant and she will go away. I only want to see which Kunal is left behind. All I want her is to go away and become a strong woman on her own. I only hope that they show his journey through emotions and not through circumstances, where Nandini is in trouble and he keeps running to save her.

I agree, yesterday the whole divorce fiasco did prove, its Nandini that matters to him. Yes, he was shocked initially but at that moment I really wanted to ask him, ""Dude,do you know your wife? what did you expect?" On a serious note,and I am totally quoting you here, they did have a 7 year of happy marriage and in his own words, marriages are deep relationships and divorces are difficult so his shock and sadness was justified. What surprised me was, that the only flashback he had was of his mother and her asking him to step out. That was the reason for him to give "No objections" to the divorce, not Nandini. I did really liked that because it showed that he is blaming only himself for all the devastation that has been caused, not their marriage, nor Nandini. Else we would have seen a kind of resentment towards her which we have not and which is what happens generally.

No flashbacks of Mauli, his total focus on Nandini as soon as he hears she is in trouble, all indicates that its only Nandini for him at this moment. Now, the question is what is more important for him, Nandini or his family.

PS: Yesterday when Kunal came and told Mauli in that "bigi billi" voice that we need to talk, I was like, oh no no no, thats not going to work. We need Nandini's Kunal here who would have come and told her, "I cannot let you do this and I am not going to allow you to do this" which would have been so much more effective. There would have been some fight but atleast we could have got the talk that we were waiting for.

Second, when Mauli looked at Kunal and was expecting him to object, I really wanted to tell her, "Lady, do you know your husband? When has he said "No" to you? He is not going to object and he is going to relent to your wishes. Go talk to him, only then there will be chance to salvage this horrible situation". Well, I cannot complain as that is what makes them Mauli and Kunal.

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#263

@summerain7@mangopudding:

Yesterday was a mock-fest of the Indian divorce law. As I told you in my previous post, I just had a front row seat to a real divorce proceeding of my cousin's friend. First they had to create a petition with their lawyers, with all the terms and conditions. There is lot of back and forth. In his case, he wanted the divorce as it was an EMA case and there was serious compatibility issues between them. His family supported her and the wife decided to take him to the gutters. Due to guilt, he agreed to all her demands and then she again came back saying that she will not allow him to see his daughter ever where all negotiations stop. This has been going on for last six months and now they have all the terms and conditions on paper. Once this is done, only then you can go in front of the magistrate and file the papers and that is your first sign in front of the judge. The waiting period is always six months as Indian law gives each couple that much time to see if they can reconcile the differences. The only time you get the one month period is when there is mental trauma, or mental imbalance issue. For that, a lot of paperwork and proof is required and really not worth the effort according to him. At the six month mark, you have the second sign and that's when the divorce is final.

Yesterday, it looked like Mauli was meeting the lawyer the first time in the court when all of those questions should have already been answered and in the paper the judge was signing. The judge just confirms verbally what is written on the paper and signs only after the couple signs. When did Kunal sign the papers would be very first question?

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mango

@mango.falooda

Rocker

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Posted: 7 years ago

#264

thanks @summerrain7 @pamk06 for the clarifications regarding divorce proceedings. I was very confused by what they had shown. so basically some lazy writing for storytelling purposes which has zero to do with actual laws. got it! :)

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#265

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1
so yesterday's episode, thoughts friends?

-- where on earth such society women exist who would care so much about what some stranger is doing in their apartment building? nowadays, many of us don't even know our neighbours... not only are they jobless but highly insecure. their actions were highly defensive and what exactly were the CVs trying to say? rather than reflection on nandini, I kept thinking "do these women have no faith in their own marriages and husbands? how unhappy are they in their lives that they would fear a stranger based on another stranger's words?"

-- as usual, kunal says nothing. his only words to mauli are if she has told dadi and his mom. it is mauli who keeps going back and forth in her mind...

-- based on this incident with the neighbours, even if kunal feels compelled by dadi, can't see him abandoning nandini because he created this mess. can he abandon her after all of this? again, another circumstances leading both of them to make decisions...

-- can someone please explain to me the court scene? both mouli and kunal are filing for mutual consent divorce right? so why is the judge asking them why? is that customary? isn't it enough to say irreconcilable differences? and what is this one month time to think about things and then it will be filed? is this the mandatory counselling that the judge was referring to? does anyone know if mandatory counselling is required with mutual consent divorce as well? and don't they have to live apart for a year before they file for divorce or now you can file whenever? anyone with some legal knowledge?

@bold: I was so surprised, not one flashback of their past, of their relationship, of their marriage nothing. The only flashback was of his mother telling him to leave house and thats its. His mother does have an impact on him and I would really like to know the story out there.

@bold2: I doubt he will abandon her and it takes me back to the garden scene. Remember he said that whatever happens now we are in this together and we will face it together. Based on what they are showing, this is exactly whats been happening. She went to meet Mauli, because Kunal should not be facing the consequences alone, were her exact words. Same goes for him, he is not leaving her alone and as I have been telling, he cannot. We will have to see how this one month progresses, but if separation is in the cards, then I think, that decision would come from Nandini. Kunal cannot let her go, that his biggest fear as of now.

So yesterday horrible incident can be a way to get him out of his melancholy and make him again walk the path that he had decided to walk. I just wish it was not this extreme circumstance. They could have shown him going for a drive , think, sort out his feelings and then make a promise to Nandini. All without banging his head, of course and All only because of emotions. This just feels like the are just going with flow that fate or rather Rajdeep is craving for them than something that they have decided that they actually want.

Regarding those women, that scene was so cringe worthy. I frankly felt like asking Mauli's mom, "What your SIL is bottle sucking kid that he got enticed with a chocolate?" . Also seriously, like you said, , if these woman are so worried about their husbands, they need to go back and look at their relationship, not blame another woman for it.

As you all were discussing, subtlety would have worked so much better. The boycotting, the back-gossiping, would have worked the same way and would be so much more relatable with our society. No one has the time to interfere in other business and frankly its their personal business and personal choice.

On a lighter note, if they start blackening all the people who are having EMA, can you imagine how many black faces we would be seeing around us? Society would be surprised

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@pamk06

Dazzler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#266

So two questions for you ladies:

First, how much trauma can a human brain take before it gives up? We have seen two major trauma that Nandini has faced in recent times. The first one they told us she is recovered as well as also from her abuse trauma but now this being so close to previous one with respect to timing, is it possible that it cannot have an impact on one's psychology?

Second, Dida is asking Kunal to give a second chance to marriage whereas he is already promised Nandini a new beginning. So he has to come back and tell Nandini about his new turn of events and also take his bag. What are the chance that we will see the talk here or will it be another "he tells and she nods her head" kind of scene?

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SummerRain7

@SummerRain7

Navigator

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#267

On a lighter note, if they start blackening all the people who are having EMA, can you imagine how many black faces we would be seeing around us? Society would be surprised

Pamk06 - I am still laughing 🤣

Waise, I have questions on your response to my post. But I have wasted a lot of time here today.😃 I have become so unproductive these days 😒, all because of IF.

So will come back later to respond.

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mango

@mango.falooda

Rocker

+ 4

Posted: 7 years ago

#268

re: the question on what kunal would do next?

from all indications it looks like nandini is still the woman for him. like @pamk06 put it and there seems to be no change in that stance. he doesn't seem to resent nandini which is key. he is regretting hurting dadi and his mom because that wasn't part of his calculations whereas mouli is more like collateral damage that he had planned for. would like to know whether his mom is actually his mom because her reactions are really strange.

as for the dadi asking him to give another chance in the promo, if they take it up, can see them faking it to please others. however, I hope the CVs use dadi as a kind of sounding board where kunal gets to voice his views honestly. obviously with mauli, he can't do that but with dadi who doesn't seem to think less of him for having an affair, he might be more comfortable explaining himself.

in masala anti-hero movies, there is always this scene where the anti-hero's friend or well-wisher confronts him and the anti-hero gives his thinking and we get insight into why he feels this way and why he feels like the wrong method is acceptable. so if used well, dadi could be that kind of sounding board and gives us viewers a better peek into kunal's head.

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#269

Originally posted by: WhyHate
@mango_pudding and @pamk: That whole society women blackening Nandini's face and all was very annoying and stupid. It was unnecessary drama and somewhere I felt the CVs brought that into the episode to make us feel bad for Nandini. My problem is that they had so many others way of doing it. Like you both said, they could have shown men showing up at Nandini's house looking for a chance or the landlord throwing Nandini out. They could have shown Nandini being rejected at a society meeting. It has happened. I've seen this myself. When I was in India a few years back I attended a society meeting with my cousin and there was this one woman that no one was talking to. My cousin later told me that she was a divorcee who apparently had different men over all the time and that's why no one spoke to her in the society. It was their silent boycott. I couldn't believe it, but my cousin said that even if someone did want to talk to her, they didn't because else they would be boycotted against as well. Pretty effective measure to stop anyone from breaking societal rules, but also it makes more sense in today's world. We already don't have the time to talk to our neighbours and when we want to, we have to be careful not to break "society" norms.

I also feel that CVs are trying to show Kunal in a way so that we feel sympathy for him. He cheated Mauli, but now Mauli and Nandini are deciding his life. Oh feel some pity for this poor cheating husband who is now being thrown around like a ping pong ball. My foot. The man just wants his life easy. When he was with Mauli, she took care of everything. He didn't have to make any decisions. Now that he has been seen with Nandini, he just wants to take whatever is the easy route for all. If that means letting the women decide, so be it.

I had asked the same question as to what Kunal should do now. But, based on a TellyChakkar article, it appears he chooses to stay with Mauli for his Dida and Nandini leaves their life and becomes a successful businesswoman. Great. Kunal doesn't have to take responsibility for anything he did. I just hope they don't show Nandini returning with a child from the one time that she and Kunal had sex. That would be like too TV-serialish.

@bold: This line just cracked me up.

But yes, I do want to see him to making decisions rather than circumstance or the women in his life making the decision.

@bold 2: If this is happening, they will show it as their redemption track. Currently, they are showing that they love each other a lot and can go to any lengths to stay together even to the extent of hurting an innocent soul. So what would be the their biggest punishment. It would be not seeing each other, not talking to each other, not knowing where the other is, not living together right? If we go with what they have shown, Kunal biggest fear is Nandini walking out of his life and if that happens, it would be his biggest pain too. Similarly, we all saw Nandini in the hospital, her state when she thought something has happened to Kunal. Hence, logically, them separating does make sense if they have to pay for their wrong deeds. That would be their punishment.

If they show that he has fallen back in love with Mauli, then where is his suffering? The only person suffering would be Nandini who would have lost everything because of this person. That would be so unfair.

The only thing though is Mauli. She might get her happy world back but how happy it would be, only time will tell. IMO, if she is accepting Kunal back, then she should make sure that the Kunal that is coming back is her Kunal and not Nandini's else she should not reunite with him,

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@pamk06

Dazzler

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#270

Originally posted by: _charu_
Those women may be paid or misled ..afterall nobody knows the truth but the people involved..others just gossip and leave ..there are rules to be followed in the societies in mumbai i suppose but this over dramatization was unnecessary and a basically a criminal act ..faltu episode except for mauli scene..nandini saying hum kalank hain doesnt evoke any sympathy in me ..she must realize what she has done ..she is saying all this now so that kunal negates it..

Wasn't that a steep prize to pay for following one's heart? Totally agree, that she does not deserve our sympathy for what she did to Mauli but she also did not deserve what those women did. Who are these woman to begrudge anyone their personal choice? The only person who has a right to punish her is Mauli and she has already done it. These woman, her mom and Rajdeep 😡especially did not have a right to do what they did. I would sympathize with any person, irrespective of their deeds, who has to go through this humiliation, especially at the hands of people who have no right to be judge and jury.

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