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Posted: 7 years ago
Mango_pudding1 - I think those women were arranged or may be even paid to do that crap. This mahila morcha is a usual daily soap fare.
Will. Come back later to comment on the episode .
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: arshi_asya


Sorry to interfere. But tornado is because the dialogues given to them are so very crappy & cringeworthy.

Nandini's doalogues should have showed a conflict between friendship & love.
Kunal's dialogues should have shown conflict between commitment and trust & newly found love.

Even I want a break rather than this mess. I want Nandini to leave the city but I have no idea why that's not happening. The makers have created a mess since the beginning of EMA.

The actions & dialogues should speak how they are apologetic at present but it doesn't come out like that since the very next scene is enough to destroy their credibility all the more.


Frankly, I do not know why they are giving them dialogues especially in front of Mauli as nothing they say will ever be right.
@bold: This should happen but in a form of conversation between them or self talk but there is no sign of that happening.

They both love to look at the moon in the night, right, hopefully as they are staying together now, they will look at it together and talk. (Please, please talk, no eye-locks.šŸ˜†šŸ˜†)

I also do not know what Nandini is thinking because there should have been some flashbacks and remorse after Mauli's confrontations but it seems like she has just blocked that all out. Now, my only hope is on the divorce news, hopefully that will be a waking call for her (or her fear that she will have to go back to Rajdeep) and she will leave but before that, they might show us how strong their bond is. Kunal leaving house, abuse scenes are all part of it.

If not, then they might be making Nandini negative instead of grey and this will turn into "Beyhadh repeat" but with a crying lead.

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



so in terms of writing, how does one fix this quandary? think the problem is CVs are too focused on trying to write this from nandini's point of view that they keep leaving kunal blank. it would also help if they cut out the fate angle and just accepted it as emotions like you said. that would help most viewers right (even if they hate the characters)?

had to giggle and roll my eyes at the promo though -- in what housing society are women so jobless that they want to put paint or whatever it is on some unknown woman based on the words of another unknown woman. mouli's mom must have some amazing persuasion words! šŸ˜† if they had shown folks gossiping in a party or whenever they pass her, that would have been more spot on.


Yes, and if they concentrate on Kunal, they leave her blank. Like now we can see the remorse in Kunal but Nandini is in her own world. I think because of the backlash, they keep changing their ways but this was an EMA show, it was suppose to have backlash. They should show what they want to show, not what audience wants to see because they cannot make everyone happy.

Also, they can show the story only from her POV, on what she thinking, feeling, whats going on in her head, what is her reaction regarding Mauli but they are not even doing that.

I just wrote in another post on this thread, repeating again, "They both love to look at the moon in the night, right, hopefully as they are staying together now, they will look at it together and talk. (Please, please talk, no eye-locks.šŸ˜†šŸ˜†)

Seriously, I was thinking which city is this? It does not even happen in villages now and who has the time. If they are the "Women Association ", aren't they suppose to first verify the story before coming and doing such things. Like seriously, they are Ok with Rajdeep being there, the person who has the restraining order. What the use of that order? Does it hold any value at all?


Question, those flashbacks that he is having, are those conflicting emotions or guilt for hurting Mauli? I really did not see the episode properly, so did not get a feel of whats going on.
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Posted: 7 years ago
I just heard about this divorce one month notice thing. Which India are they living in? My cousin's friend is going through a divorce and she wants it ASAP but they have to wait for 6 months. Thats a given. You can get a one month notice, but there has to be a genuine problem, like mental health, mental trauma etc and they have to prove it.
If we go with above logic, shouldn't Nandini divorce happen within one month as there was trauma there. Whats trauma do K and M have? They were most normal couple out there and more likable of changing their mind. They should be getting the six months notice. This is a huge blunder on their part and why so much of rush?
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Posted: 7 years ago
@pamk06 -- perhaps the CVs aren't prepared for the kind of backlash at all and so they keep waffling which drives lots of viewers up the wall. think they wanted to create a behayadh kind of serial where the main character is actually kind of negative. (so I only watched the initial beginning but from what I saw) maya was doing all sorts of things and sometimes she was apologetic and sometimes she was not but viewers still lapped it all up.

with this drama, they wanted something a bit more complex than all out negative or grey, they wanted a anti-hero character as central.

the broad strokes of the drama was -- what if the other woman isn't this seductive shameless vamp as you typically imagine? what if the other cheating husband isn't some man who was looking for some fun time as he was having some mid life crisis?

so the what ifs were what the drama was trying to do, how did the CVs fail a bit? from a literature definition,anti-hero doesn't always possess purely good qualities or personality traits. so example: while a hero is out for justice and to serve the common good, an antihero might be selfish and rebellious against this same common good.

if we look at our masala movies where we have anti-heroes (now it makes me appreciate those because I guess it is actually not that easy to write! hahahhah...), there's always a tragic backstory to how the hero became anti-hero. in nandini's case, it is her marriage to rajdeep and the abuse. so thats her tragic backstory. so what is missing? kunal's backstory. we also are missing this clear depiction of inner conflict where they do the wrong thing even though are torn about it and then go about justifying it even though they are not sure at all...
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: arshi_asya


Sorry to interfere. But tornado is because the dialogues given to them are so very crappy & cringeworthy.
Nandini's doalogues should have showed a conflict between friendship & love.
Kunal's dialogues should have shown conflict between commitment and trust & newly found love.

Even I want a break rather than this mess. I want Nandini to leave the city but I have no idea why that's not happening. The makers have created a mess since the beginning of EMA.

The actions & dialogues should speak how they are apologetic at present but it doesn't come out like that since the very next scene is enough to destroy their credibility all the more.



@arshi_asaya -- am not disagreeing with you regarding @bold but I am just trying to break down and see where CVs missed the mark.
so at least initially we saw nandini horrified and trying to avoid kunal when she found out her feelings. and kuanl was also torn in those scenes and kept avoiding nandini... so perhaps what was missing was a gradual or more acceptable transition from the conflict to acceptance?
Edited by mango_pudding1 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06


Yes, and if they concentrate on Kunal, they leave her blank. Like now we can see the remorse in Kunal but Nandini is in her own world. I think because of the backlash, they keep changing their ways but this was an EMA show, it was suppose to have backlash. They should show what they want to show, not what audience wants to see because they cannot make everyone happy.

Also, they can show the story only from her POV, on what she thinking, feeling, whats going on in her head, what is her reaction regarding Mauli but they are not even doing that.

I just wrote in another post on this thread, repeating again, "They both love to look at the moon in the night, right, hopefully as they are staying together now, they will look at it together and talk. (Please, please talk, no eye-locks.šŸ˜†šŸ˜†)

Seriously, I was thinking which city is this? It does not even happen in villages now and who has the time. If they are the "Women Association ", aren't they suppose to first verify the story before coming and doing such things. Like seriously, they are Ok with Rajdeep being there, the person who has the restraining order. What the use of that order? Does it hold any value at all?


Question, those flashbacks that he is having, are those conflicting emotions or guilt for hurting Mauli? I really did not see the episode properly, so did not get a feel of whats going on.



like you said, they have to leave one character blank and this episode, it was kunal. (maybe they only pay for exposition on one character? hahahahha šŸ˜‰). have no idea what he feels about the flashbacks or why he is having them. actually wondered if the accident had made him mute (it does happen in ITV! hahahahhah...) and so thats why he was silent. 🤣 or maybe he had a concussion and so was non-responsive. hahahahah... .. but then he picked up the phone and spoke to mouli in his normal voice and so his head is still working fine. šŸ˜† we need dialogues to make sense and yes, please no staring at the moon.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06


Frankly, I do not know why they are giving them dialogues especially in front of Mauli as nothing they say will ever be right.
@bold: This should happen but in a form of conversation between them or self talk but there is no sign of that happening.

They both love to look at the moon in the night, right, hopefully as they are staying together now, they will look at it together and talk. (Please, please talk, no eye-locks.šŸ˜†šŸ˜†)

I also do not know what Nandini is thinking because there should have been some flashbacks and remorse after Mauli's confrontations but it seems like she has just blocked that all out. Now, my only hope is on the divorce news, hopefully that will be a waking call for her (or her fear that she will have to go back to Rajdeep) and she will leave but before that, they might show us how strong their bond is. Kunal leaving house, abuse scenes are all part of it.

If not, then they might be making Nandini negative instead of grey and this will turn into "Beyhadh repeat" but with a crying lead.


My biggest problem with this whole affair has been absolute absence of emotional heart-to-heart talk between the two. I mean no one asked questions about WHYs, so many of WHYs should have been asked & answered.
All I could see in this affair was a Dom-Sub relationship minus hardcore sex stuff.
Looking at the timeline of the affair-
Day 1- Kunal proposes, Nandini accepts. Kunal orders her to cook for him, hug him, she does.
Day 2- He asks to dress up in Red saree, she complies. Rajdeep tried to rape Nandini & still no talk between the two
Day 3- Mauli's brother fiasco & Kunal-Nandini coffee date in the next day as if that rape attempt had no impact.
Day 4- They have sex, still no talking about what they did. It was a huge thing. But NO, still not going there.
Day 5- Kunal asks her to confess her feelings for him otherwise he wouldn't eat, she does that.
Day 6- Kunal asks her to meet him in cafe, she goes to share how Mauli is getting suspicious.
Day 7- Bam, the affair out in open.

Where the hell was communication, actual talking between the two which should have formed the crux of the affair. The way the whole affair was shown, everyone will feel it to be a more of a fantasy of Kunal-Nandini rather than strong & deep feelings of love.

Kottary did a terrible job at writing the whole affair in the show. She did a splendid job in BV with developing every single bond even the whole affair portion of Jagya, violence of Ganga & her fight after that, Shiv-Anandi gradual development to love, Sanchi's transformation from bitter to sensible women, even the rape attempt on Sanchi. Here, she just lost it. She has written best for Mauli & worst for the other 2.

For the next one month, Kunal will have to take a final decision but I hope that Mauli closes herself as an option. Kunal can go to Nandini & she can have him by all means. But I think makers have planned a twist in that too. Kunal actually not thinking about Nandini at all in all this surprised me since it speaks of how indecisive & impulsive he is.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06



Frankly, I do not think you can compare two loves but there can be different intensity or qualities of love. One example that i think of would be Twilight where Edward's love was different than Jacob but both loved her equally. The choice was Bella's of whom she would choose and though she loved Jacob and knew that, he would be the right choice as he understands her more, she choose Edward because he was the one she could not live without.

Similarly, Mauli love for Kunal or their relationship is completely different from his with Nandini.. Mauli's and his relationship is more of an equality, friendship, familiarity, verbal and something that they constantly acknowledge with the "ILU's". Nandini and his is more of a protective kind, silent companionship, quiet understanding, no talk and also that requires no acknowledgement. Both are equal in their own way. Both are intense in their own way.

We cannot say Mauli's love is less or Nandini is less or Mauli deserves more or Nandini deserves more. But, I do agree with you here that the choice should come down to Kunal. Whose love he cannot live without, who is more important for him or who he loves because as of yesterday, Nandini was waiting for him and Mauli would have accepted him back. I have not seen today's episode so cannot comment.

But, I would say this, whoever he chooses, it should not be because she is done a lot for him or she needs protection. It should be because she is the one and only one and after that, there should be no going back irrespective of whether he is physically with that person or no.


The issue is that the makes gave mauli a dialogue today that "nandani ka pyar kunal ke liye itna kab badh gaya. mujhe laga tha muhjse se zyada kunal ko koi pyar nhi kar sakta". So the makers in a way have made mauli accept that nanadani loves kunal more than mauli. And she files for a divorce because of that. they have made mauli a 2nd to nandani wrt who loves kunal more.
i agree mauli is insecure right now but they dint need to show that angle in that way because somewhere they want to justify nandani and kunal relation
the divorce initiation should have started with mauli realizing kunal has fallen completely for nandani or because he cheated, not with mauli feeling that nandani loves kunal more.
The makers have somewhere disrespected maulis love for kunal
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Posted: 7 years ago

So, yesterday's episode was like Aiyyo Rama full on drama, with some interesting moments, that I'm not sure how to interpret.


The hospital scene was extremely OTT, but keeping in line with the daily soap style of presentation. Usually you would see educated adults shouting and crying, sometimes begging and sometimes even threatening the doctor to save their loved ones. And some twenty people who call themselves family would easily barge into the ICU. So no surprises there. Here, Nandini's OTT concern was actually for the benefit of Mauli. Just so that she can witness it and understand that it wasn't just a fling but that she cares for him deeply and he means the world to her. (see the makers being cowards here again, KuNan ko kuch karna hi nahin padta. Circumstances are such that they do not have to say'anything to Mauli and look like complete asses. Sab apne aap ho jaata hai.) But honestly, Mauli did not have to phrase it as , Nandini loves him as much as she does. That sounded so off!


Anyways, even after they get back home, there is no conversation between them. Kunal was completely mute, not even looking at Nandini and just recalling Mauli's words. Nandini looked like she wanted to talk but was unsure of how to initiate conversation.

But I also felt that she was kind of happy in a way gives me some bad vibes. Like she wasn't much bothered about what Kunal was going through, but happy that he was with her.


Then the makers threw us a googly and Kunal is dreaming of his cosy moments with Mauli. When he wakes up with a jerk, and looks at Nandini with shock she says, "jo bhi tha sapna tha. It was as though she was telling him, "That (Mauli) was a dream and I am your reality " Now, why did Kunal have that dream in the first place? Was it out of guilt? Or is he actually torn between Nandini and Mauli?


I think, the way he sees it, he did love Mauli and though he loves Nandini now ( and that too pata nahin kaise ho gaya in his own words) , he never expected Mauli to question what they had in the past. That has rattled him. He considererd himself as a righteous man, but now, having realized the true nature of what he has done, he is not able to live it down. I can only pity him, because how in the world was he expecting Mauli to react? Was he expecting her to say, " I know what we had was great Kunal, but now you love Nandini, I know you didn't mean to cheat on me. So yeah.. No hard feelings..tata bye bye?? Like seriously?


Nandini makes kheer for him the next morning, which he refuses to have. Does this have any significance? Does she really understand what he is going through? Is she getting even more delusional or is she giving him space and time? I am not sure what to make of Nandini's behavior.


Kunal's mom is also freaking me out now. Doesn't she want to talk to her son and find out what he intends to do about this situation? I get that she is angry, but as a responsible parent she should be doing that. Mauli's mother is completely useless, but her dad looked sensible, so shouldn't he be having that tough talk with Kunal?


It looks like the makers have really suspended time and action for KuNan and is probably creating more circumstances' to drive the story forward. So frustrating! If they don't want to make KuNan talk, can Mauli ask Kunal some tough questions when he meets her, instead of just informing about her decision to file for divorce ? Not rhetrocial questions but some tough close ended questions which he needs to answer. It won't be easy for her, but right now Mauli taking all tough decisions is actually making things easier for these two. Kunal Babu, please show some initiative and please do not get your head banged on the way.



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