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Posted: 7 years ago
@WhyHate - Half way through your post, it stopped making any sense to me and I realized that your story is an authentic EK plot, while mine comes across as a wannabe EK types. 😃 Aap ko mera pranam👍🏼
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

@WhyHate - Half way through your post, it stopped making any sense to me and I realized that your story is an authentic EK plot, while mine comes across as a wannabe EK types. 😃 Aap ko mera pranam👍🏼




Actually it was your plot that led me to mine. You started it off exactly how EK would and then I just took the past 15 to 20 years of her stories and mixed them up into this because that's what she does. Twist after twist until the knot can't come undone. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago

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🤣 hahahhaa... sometimes you have to watch serials like this one to appreciate these ekta kapoor type serials which are all sorts of crazy but in a weird way, highly funny and entertaining. there is no way to even get aggravated because you just can't take it seriously. 😆




😆😆😆
I hope this was one of those Ekta Kapoor serial, it would have been so simple but unfortunately it is not. They have hooked us up with this serious topics and then they have made it so layered that its mysterious and frustating at the same time.

If its was Ekta Kapoor, Nandini still be with Rajdeep, the speed would have been so slow and there would still be hit and misses between Mauli and Nandini. 😆 where one turns away exactly at the same time the other turns the other way. I always wonder how does that happen and that too so many times. 😊


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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: WhyHate



I feel that Dida didn't stop him because if she did then it would be wrong with Mauli. Somewhere I believe that she went through a thought process where either she could support a woman, her daughter-in-law, who had been wronged by her own grandson or she could support her own blood. But she must have felt that her morales were stronger than just choosing her blood over the right thing to do.

Kunal doesn't have one iota of guilt. Copying from another thread that I just wrote in: Kunal is stuck. He knows if he chooses Mauli, then he'll lose a sati savitri, abla nari who he can protect. Of course Mauli also has to accept him back. But if he chooses Nandini, he has to start over from scratch because in a moment of mahanta he gave back the clinic keys. And even though Nandini does some work, she probably wouldn't be able to support them both. At the same time, he'll also lose his own mother and Dida. So he's stuck. Does he go with araam and comfort or sex and love and manliness?

I feel really bad for Nandini as well. After everything she's been through, it's still not done. She now has to face society, Rajdeep's antics, Mauli's accusations, and Kunal's indecisiveness. She's already emotionally raw and I'm expecting a nervous breakdown any minute. But at the same time, I am angry at her as well. Angry that she knowingly destroyed her best friend's life and then claims that it just happened. She knowingly slept with Kunal. Mauli was right. She wasn't forced or a kid. This all happened knowingly. And that's why I can't bring myself to forgive Nandini.

What I found hilarious was how Kunal and Nandini even have the same thoughts and words. Oh the past wasn't a lie. Well of course it was. Nandini lied to Mauli whenever she met Kunal and Kunal lied to Maul whenever he met Nandini. And yet during all those moments they pretended to be Mauli's best friend and husband, respectively.



Agreed with everything you wrote except for the part regarding Kunal's job.

Kunal does have a job dear. I do not know why there is this general perception that he is jobless and Mauli is supporting him. He had quit his job but then he found a new one, and the musical night "Roohani aarzoo" was a celebration of his project getting approved. The day the bridge fell he was going for work. So Nandini does not.have to support him and he is more than capable of supporting both of them as well as his own house too. He is a doctor and a good one too based on what they showed us initially.

Its really funny how human brain works sometime, like both of them know they are doing wrong to Mauli, were hiding the truth but its seemed as if they had closed that door and did not even want to think about Mauli. It seemed as if they were almost living two lives. One where he is the Mauli 's husband and the other where only their love matters.


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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



@bold -- exactly! felt the whole interactions really weird because no one is expressing shock or disbelief. wouldn't that be the first reaction? to "wait, what?? are you sure? maybe you misunderstood mouli?" -- won't that be the type of questions?... and even the mom's anger was slightly weird in that rather than disappointment, she was angry like kunal had rejected her, rather than mouli. and even in that scene where he was walking in a daze and got beaten by rajdeep, he was thinking of his mom. and yea, even in the car, it was more the mom. so perhaps, he was fully prepared for mouli's reaction but not his mom and that has really hurt him...

but @naq5 mention of kal ho na ho made me wonder -- what if kunal is actually the stepchild? the child of the mistress and his mom is actually the first wife and stepmom? if so, it would explain so much about why he was attracted to nandini. always felt that so odd given mouli is more like the mom and most men are attracted to women (they marry) who remind them of their moms in some say (well that is the saying anyway)... in that case, it would not be a case of anything mouli did but simply he was attracted to someone who reminded him more of his bio-mom. it would explain the mom's anger as well as the dadi's very flat reaction.

if this is the track that CVs intend, then am going to be entertained. frankly the 3 of them constantly going rona dhona is wearing on my nerves and making me feel claustrophobic. I need some other masala to keep me entertained.


Exactly, he almost seemed shocked and surprised at his mom's reaction. Doesn't he know his own mother? But I think may be the surprise came from the fact that his mother did not ask him for an explanation and that is whats feels weird for me. You son has committed adultery, it actually raising question on your upbringing but her whole concentration was on Mauli, Understood but she should have demanded an explanation and be more firm on the why part.

Even we go with Kal ho na ho concept, it would still raise a question on the upbringing right. I doubt they will throw light on that story or they would have brought it up during the confrontation itself.

I just want them to move on now and start the next track or answer all our questions.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Agreed with everything you wrote except for the part regarding Kunal's job.[/DIV]
Kunal does have a job dear. I do not know why there is this general perception that he is jobless and Mauli is supporting him. He had quit his job but then he found a new one, and the musical night "Roohani aarzoo" was a celebration of his project getting approved. The day the bridge fell he was going for work. So Nandini does not.have to support him and he is more than capable of supporting both of them as well as his own house too. He is a doctor and a good one too based on what they showed us initially.

Its really funny how human brain works sometime, like both of them know they are doing wrong to Mauli, were hiding the truth but its seemed as if they had closed that door and did not even want to think about Mauli. It seemed as if they were almost living two lives. One where he is the Mauli 's husband and the other where only their love matters.





If I remember it correctly, Kunal wasn't treating rich people in his new job, there were slum kids around him, it's not a government job so I am guessing he's working for private clinic and I don't think it pays enough to take care of Nandini (Nandini is clearly high maintenance, you see she spents most of her money on clothes and jewelry, I am guessing she's a shopaholic and they will focus on it later) and his family, the only reason he thought about treating people for free was because he knew Mauli earns enough to support him and his family financially, now Mauli here works for a hospital hence she obviously earns more than Kunal, choosing Nandini means Kunal has to let go of his dream because he has to support her financially and that'll make him bitter..

I maybe wrong, but as far as I remember SRKs character in KANK was bitter because his dream was taken away from him and he started resenting his life, he focused his frustration on his wife and kid..
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: SummerRain7

Someone tell me , in yetserday's episode when Nandini was at home and worrying about Kunal (before the temple confrontation) did she actually say something like, "I hope Kunal aur Mauli ke beech sab kuch teekh ho" I don't know if I heard it wrong, because it just doesn't make sense at all.

And my God whatever Nandini told Mauli in the temple. I had to face palm. "Humein nahin pata tha ki humari chahat ka silsila tumhari dehleez par aa kar khatam ho ga." isn't that what she said ? And I was like, " woman!! It all started from her dehleez. You didn't have a roof over your head to begin with.!!!" In contrast Mauli got such AMAZING lines. For me Mauli is that FL, probably the only FL on ITV who speaks the exact same lines that we women in the audience want to hear.
I really believe makers can do better than this for Nandini. Why did they have to make her say that all those moments with Mauli were true. It wasn't...right? And I felt terrible for her when she said, "Kisi ko paana ya khona itna asaan nahin hota" and that she doesn't know whats going on in Kunal's mind, though she shouldn't have said it in front of Mauli. I hope that man got hit in the right place on his head and I hope he will have some sense when he wakes up.

Just some fun thought -

If this was an Ekta Kapoor serial, Kunal would wake up with short term memory loss, with no recollection of anything that happened with Nandini. And on doctor's advice everyone will act normal around him, until one day when he gets knocked on his head again and will go in search of Nandini who would have gone away by then. It would then be revealed that Nandini had also given birth to his baby. He would then bring both of them back, and Mauli would have turned into a full blown vamp by them, who would scheme and plot to get Nandini and her baby killed. All this could go on for a few years easily, with many time leaps in the story and with all of them looking much younger wIth age.😃


I think it goes back our conversation where Nandini seriously had no expectations from this relationship. As long as, Kunal called her, text her, met her she was fine with it and it also indicates that she never wanted to break Mauli's house. Shall we call it innocence or delusion? But if we look at Kunal, we do not see him denying the fact that he loves Nandini or it was a fling but we do not also do not see him saying a 'no' to a reconciliation. How I wish Nandini would not have called at that moment when Mauli was going to forgive and forget, things would have been so much clear with his answer.

Nandini acceptance would have sounded weird for me but I have a friend who is exactly happy with this status quo. She is very happy as long as the person calls her, talks to her and spends time with her. I wish I could dig deeper there but well its their personal business . They are old enough to know what they are doing and old enough to take full responsibility of their decision. So, yes, Nandini thinking this way does not surprise me at all.

I do not know why did they make her open her mouth. Just be silent, let Mauli vent out. Its kind of therapy for Mauli. There is nothing that Nandini can say to Mauli that would be right. Yes, I know there was a demand that we want to know but it should have been self talk or a conversation between her and Kunal. CV's are handling an EMA, they should really know better.

That line "Kisi ko paana ya khona itna asaan nahin hota" was awesome. It really resonated with me because it basically tell everything that three of them are currently feeling and the state of their life at this point.

I think the CVs have gone to SM, read all our questions and given it to Mauli and Rajdeep and hence their dialogue are so bang on. But for Kunal and Nandini, we have no answers, no explanation hence such crappy dialogues for them.


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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: FruitToasty



If I remember it correctly, Kunal wasn't treating rich people in his new job, there were slum kids around him, it's not a government job so I am guessing he's working for private clinic and I don't think it pays enough to take care of Nandini (Nandini is clearly high maintenance, you see she spents most of her money on clothes and jewelry, I am guessing she's a shopaholic and they will focus on it later) and his family, the only reason he thought about treating people for free was because he knew Mauli earns enough to support him and his family financially, now Mauli here works for a hospital hence she obviously earns more than Kunal, choosing Nandini means Kunal has to let go of his dream because he has to support her financially and that'll make him bitter..

I maybe wrong, but as far as I remember SRKs character in KANK was bitter because his dream was taken away from him and he started resenting his life, he focused his frustration on his wife and kid..


No he was treating poor people as a side job or as a good deed. He wanted a clinic so he do both as well as not charge more for the treatments. The project that was approved was a huge deal for both of them as it was going to open a lot of doors for him careerwise.

Yes, Nandini does love sarees. Way before they even had feelings for each other, M and K has asked her to write her a list of dreams. She could not so Kunal was helping her and he came up with this stupid logic of shop whrere you can buy anything. She had asked Kunal, does this shop have sarees, can I buy it? Kunal answer was, why you want to buy sarees, you already have more than enough sarees for a lifetime. So, I guess even if she wants sarees, she is not going to get them. 🤣. It was very sweet interaction before it all went down the drain.

I think money is not important to Kunal, his bitterness will come from the fact that he will have to boycott his family which is way more important for him.



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Posted: 7 years ago

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I think it goes back our conversation where Nandini seriously had no expectations from this relationship. As long as, Kunal called her, text her, met her she was fine with it and it also indicates that she never wanted to break Mauli's house. Shall we call it innocence or delusion? But if we look at Kunal, we do not see him denying the fact that he loves Nandini or it was a fling but we do not also do not see him saying a 'no' to a reconciliation. How I wish Nandini would not have called at that moment when Mauli was going to forgive and forget, things would have been so much clear with his answer.

Nandini acceptance would have sounded weird for me but I have a friend who is exactly happy with this status quo. She is very happy as long as the person calls her, talks to her and spends time with her. I wish I could dig deeper there but well its their personal business . They are old enough to know what they are doing and old enough to take full responsibility of their decision. So, yes, Nandini thinking this way does not surprise me at all.

I do not know why did they make her open her mouth. Just be silent, let Mauli vent out. Its kind of therapy for Mauli. There is nothing that Nandini can say to Mauli that would be right. Yes, I know there was a demand that we want to know but it should have been self talk or a conversation between her and Kunal. CV's are handling an EMA, they should really know better.

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in a weird way, such low expectations is a best of both worlds for some -- they still get to have their own independent lives and figure out what they want but at the same time, they have some companionship. perhaps, thats why nandini doesn't want more as long as she has that assurance he will call...

think she was trying to assure mouli as well as share her stress at the same time. hahahaha... so basically mouli was going on something on lines of "you have won!" and what nandini was in essence saying "no I haven't won at all. I don't even know where he is or why he hasn't called. I don't even know if I have a future with him." -- so weirdly, it was kind of a shocker as well as reassuring in a rather stranger manner to mouli because she then gets over her anger and starts calling friends to try find out where he is as she lets herself worry.
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1



in a weird way, such low expectations is a best of both worlds for some -- they still get to have their own independent lives and figure out what they want but at the same time, they have some companionship. perhaps, thats why nandini doesn't want more as long as she has that assurance he will call...

think she was trying to assure mouli as well as share her stress at the same time. hahahaha... so basically mouli was going on something on lines of "you have won!" and what nandini was in essence saying "no I haven't won at all. I don't even know where he is or why he hasn't called. I don't even know if I have a future with him." -- so weirdly, it was kind of a shocker as well as reassuring in a rather stranger manner to mouli because she then gets over her anger and starts calling friends to try find out where he is as she lets herself worry.


Good you said that, I actually felt that at one point especially when she started speaking about how she is feeling empty inside, she started talking to Nandini, her friend and not Nandini, the other woman. Till that point, she was only asking question and had not actually shared her inner feelings with anyone. The only two people she is comfortable sharing them is Kunal and Nandini. So, after she lashes out at Nandini, the other woman and she then starts speaking her own trauma to her friend. (It almost like the bridge accident thing where she could only talk to Nandini )

You see a subtle change in Nandini where she recognizes that now its her friend that she is facing, not the wife. I guess that the reason, Nandini said that line. She was recognizing her friends pain and sharing her own too. Weird right? Thoughts?





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