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@pamk06

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Posted: 7 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: _charu_

Thank you, and to answer your question No. I do hope their conscious comes to life before they take the next step but again i wont call it lust. For me lust is far big of a cry, and what Kunal and Nandini share is greater than physical dependency hence NO

Point taken

It would depend on many factors. Right now, they are showing that its love but what if, after they take the next step, Kunal gets re-attracted to Mauli again and her qualities. In that case, it would be definitely a case of mid-life crisis and lust which he named it as love. But even after the next step, they maintain this emotional relationship then it would not be lust, it would be much deeper than that. Also, the "not yet" consummated their relationship is what makes me think that Kunal is serious about Nandini.

Mauli is their beacon of rightness and as long as she is there, they cannot be together and from today episode, it was clear that Nandini has accepted the fact that Kunal will never leave his family and she would be the second woman. (When she prays to God)

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@pamk06

Dazzler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: Twenty1st

so i was bang on with the Mango pudding lol, yay a point for me lol

Ok i agree with the therapist on what she said, but do you actually reckon Nandini AND Kunal would live together after crusading over Mauli's trust and expectations. I ddont know why but i doubt it, maybe i'm wrong but the promos set it out differently, then again after the promos i had assumed they wont give into this feeling and maybe share a more spiritual relationship (i don't know if tahts even possible lol) but i forsure didn't see Nandini AND Kunal accepting their feelings for one another.

but anyway i agree of the notion of being miserable, whether tahts together or alone
Karma does strike and hard at times

@bold Sorry to butt in this interesting conversation, but this "Karma" think just raised a bunch of questions in my head.

So, according to me falling in love was not wrong but the wrong part was keeping it from Mauli especially when they decided to pursue their relationship. An ideal situation would be where Kunal firsts tell Mauli and then Nandini about his feelings. If not, as he was short on time because of Nandini leaving town, they should have sat down and discussed the next steps or he should have taken steps to ensure that he is free before continuing this relationship with Nandini. Its also not fair on Nandini because if this blows up, Nandini has the most to lose. So, anyways before i digress, this secret is their bad karma.

What if, before Mauli comes to know, they decide to sacrifice and move away from each other. She goes away, he stays with his family just because they cannot hurt Mauli or don't want to hurt Mauli, thus having the spiritual relationship that you mentioned.

Would we then call this good karma on their part or would it be a repentance of bad karma that they collected due to keeping their relationship a secret for whatever time period? Or would their bad karma still be on the rise, because they still love each other?

On another side, Mauli finds out that Kunal loves Nandini and he sacrificed that love for her. I am very confused about Mauli right now, to judge her reaction because even though strong, she is not emotionally strong. In the past, she walked away from Nandini but never actually recovered from that. She was hurting for it for 7 years. Her feelings for Kunal are on altogether different platform. She is emotionally very connected and dependent on him. So. one scenario might be that she turns a blind eye to the fact that he is in love with another woman as long as he with her, knowing that Kunal will not be fully happy with her. Will that be bad karma for Mauli or will it still be bad karma for Kunal and Nandini for falling in love and putting her in that position?

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SummerRain7

@SummerRain7

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Posted: 7 years ago

#73

No, I do not mind you replying at all. I love to have these healthy discussions especially with a drams which had so many shades of relationship and answers that are not right nor wrong.

I would like to hear you little story. 😊

Thanks 😊I made a separate Topic. Here's the link.

https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5023807

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Twenty1st

@Twenty1st

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Posted: 7 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: pamk06

It would depend on many factors. Right now, they are showing that its love but what if, after they take the next step, Kunal gets re-attracted to Mauli again and her qualities. In that case, it would be definitely a case of mid-life crisis and lust which he named it as love. But even after the next step, they maintain this emotional relationship then it would not be lust, it would be much deeper than that. Also, the "not yet" consummated their relationship is what makes me think that Kunal is serious about Nandini.

Mauli is their beacon of rightness and as long as she is there, they cannot be together and from today episode, it was clear that Nandini has accepted the fact that Kunal will never leave his family and she would be the second woman. (When she prays to God)

Hey Pamk,

I hadnt thought of the changing dynamics however i do agree with your said thoughts. But i suppose, we can only term it as lust from Kunal's side if you go by the above explanation. Nandini would still stand on the other side of the road. I hear the comsummation has happened now, which if you ask me is rather too quick so maybe it was more physical than emotional for both, or more for Kunal considering that Nandini is the follower in the relationship.

I hope Mauli brings the rifters to righteousness again, or is it too late? I'm not sure, for me it'll depend on the aftermath of feeling. I had never really connected with Kunal, but if Nandini is shown trully grieving then maybe my heart with weaken and accept her mistake. I suppose we are humans, at the end of the day. Not all people come under ine bracket, and the likes of Nandini do exists. What i dislike is her want of a male companion but woman as such do live, i know a few myself. No matter how much i or other suppirt but they crave for love from the opposite gender. Maybe to assert themselves of female feelings, i'm not sure really

sorry waffling, aint I? lol

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Twenty1st

@Twenty1st

Rocker

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Posted: 7 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: pamk06

@bold Sorry to butt in this interesting conversation, but this "Karma" think just raised a bunch of questions in my head.

So, according to me falling in love was not wrong but the wrong part was keeping it from Mauli especially when they decided to pursue their relationship. An ideal situation would be where Kunal firsts tell Mauli and then Nandini about his feelings. If not, as he was short on time because of Nandini leaving town, they should have sat down and discussed the next steps or he should have taken steps to ensure that he is free before continuing this relationship with Nandini. Its also not fair on Nandini because if this blows up, Nandini has the most to lose. So, anyways before i digress, this secret is their bad karma.

What if, before Mauli comes to know, they decide to sacrifice and move away from each other. She goes away, he stays with his family just because they cannot hurt Mauli or don't want to hurt Mauli, thus having the spiritual relationship that you mentioned.

Would we then call this good karma on their part or would it be a repentance of bad karma that they collected due to keeping their relationship a secret for whatever time period? Or would their bad karma still be on the rise, because they still love each other?

On another side, Mauli finds out that Kunal loves Nandini and he sacrificed that love for her. I am very confused about Mauli right now, to judge her reaction because even though strong, she is not emotionally strong. In the past, she walked away from Nandini but never actually recovered from that. She was hurting for it for 7 years. Her feelings for Kunal are on altogether different platform. She is emotionally very connected and dependent on him. So. one scenario might be that she turns a blind eye to the fact that he is in love with another woman as long as he with her, knowing that Kunal will not be fully happy with her. Will that be bad karma for Mauli or will it still be bad karma for Kunal and Nandini for falling in love and putting her in that position?

I had for the longest tried to remain away from answering the following questions since it dwells too deep and seriously makes me ponder over the lines of wrong and right. Love i had assumed to be right, but here it is perceived right in the wrong place, however like you i have no problems with it however the execution and general perception that i have a problem with. Both have no self-assessment. i wonder how one can really fall in love without questioning him/herself. Like is this love or attraction/like etc. They haven't really given themselves any thought nevermind Mauli.

However having come to terms with the current affairs in the serial, i suppose it is safe to say that the downfall OF Nandini AND Kunal would mainly be steered by bad karma.

Reason being: cheating, hiding, breaking the bounds of a friend and husband. But having said that good karma would lie in the intention they withhold afterwards. i hope they come clean to Mauli, she doesnt deserve this.

I really wish i could elaborate but i can't, be it good or bad but i really wish to see a worthwhile repentance which would render you speechless, which would hopefully force the watchers to think outside the boundaries of right and wrong because right now i am strictly on the side of the right, regardless of the soft corner i have for Nandini

thank you Pamk, i have really enjoyed replying and maybe even discovering my thoughts which believe me comes as no shock, i am a stubborn individual so Kunal and Nandini are wrong in my world right now

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Twenty1st

@Twenty1st

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Posted: 7 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: mango_pudding1

@twenty1st -- can see them living together if the drama continues like for 200 episodes. kekekek... after all, we have reincarnations, falling off waterfalls, amnesia, and whatever else to drag a story. 😆

nope i do not see them together, i am really hoping for a tragedy

something which redeems Nandini in my eyes, as for Kunal i don't care lol

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@pamk06

Dazzler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: Twenty1st

thank you Pamk, i have really enjoyed replying and maybe even discovering my thoughts which believe me comes as no shock, i am a stubborn individual so Kunal and Nandini are wrong in my world right now

Believe me, in my world too, they were wrong from the moment they decided to hide it from Mauli and continue their affair behind her back. For me, as soon as he acknowledged that he loved Nandini, he should have told Mauli., got his affairs straightened out and then continue with Nandini. But this is a show, so there has to be some drama 😛

Currently, both of them are in their bubble, believing that no one knows about it and will never find out. Kind of like a cat who believes, no one see her when she is eating the cream. For them, right now, its only them and their excitement of the newfound love. Hence, they are not giving any thought to anyone other than themselves. I guess, the bubble will break, when they get a hint of how their love can affect their family and especially Mauli, It might push them to start asking questions and take some decisions especially Nandini.

Regarding whether its love or lust, based on what they have shown us, Kunal has confirmed twice that he does love Nandini and he seems to genuinely care about her. Enough, that now he is uncomfortable with Mauli when it comes to physical closeness. This is a natural reaction if you are not Rajdeep, as within him, his loyalty, based on his feelings has changed. This does show that it is definitely "not" only lust. Whether its love, I guess we just have to wait to see his reaction when it comes to Mauli.

If this show is about Kunal-Nandini, I really do not want to see an over jealous Nandini or a negative Mauli, that would be too cliche for me. For me, their repentance would be their sacrifice for greater good, if that even applies here. It would not only elevate Nandini and Kunal but would also give the viewers a different perspective of the other woman.

In our world, as soon as the word, "other woman" comes up, we automatically termed them as the bad person. Even though, it might be true in most cases, there are few where its really not. I really want this show to be about those few, who need to have their story heard and give a different perspective about them to us viewers. Its about them taking the decision of doing the right thing even though its was totally wrong for them, if that even make sense. Lets see which journey the makers take us...

PS: I am not supporting Kunal and Nandini or Mauli for that matter, but just putting my view based on what I am seeing on the show. Its all about the story for me.

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chulbuliladki

@chulbuliladki

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Posted: 6 years ago

#78

@pamk It would have been interesting if they would have taken that route but considering the severe backlash this show and concept has got and the writer and actors giving clarifications about the show not promoting immorality anymore I have a feeling Kunal and Nandini probably will not be end game and also chances that Kunal and Mauli reconcile after years of differences. I feel like they have already begun to show Kunal and Nandini a bit negative with the drunk dancing and all. I highly doubt the viewers will accept their relation at least given the way they are being shown at the moment which really does not look positive.

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@pamk06

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Posted: 6 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: chulbuliladki
@pamk It would have been interesting if they would have taken that route but considering the severe backlash this show and concept has got and the writer and actors giving clarifications about the show not promoting immorality anymore I have a feeling Kunal and Nandini probably will not be end game and also chances that Kunal and Mauli reconcile after years of differences. I feel like they have already begun to show Kunal and Nandini a bit negative with the drunk dancing and all. I highly doubt the viewers will accept their relation at least given the way they are being shown at the moment which really does not look positive.

Frankly, I do not know which story the makers are showing but irrespective of that, Kunal and Nandini will not be the end game, atleast for now, not sure of the future. I say this because of two things, first is the montage that they show, where Mauli pulls Kunal back to her and second is Nandini's prayer today. She said that Kunal happiness is the most important thing for her. I think, if they keep Kunal's character intact, even though he has feelings for her, he might not be able to deceive Mauli or his guilt will too high. Nandini will sense this and this might be the reason along with her guilt due to which she will leave.

The reason I think that this is Nandini's story is because the writer of this show has a written a book on a similar concept. In that, the wife is a homemaker, very dependent on the husband who leaves her. With time she stands on her own two feet. Even though Nandini the other woman, the premise does match with Nandini journey as she is more broken and Mauli is already successful. If, because of the backlash, they make this Mauli's journey the center theme, then I don't know how it will go ,because they have actually not given any hints on that part.

Edited by pamk06 - 6 years ago