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Posted: 7 years ago
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About olden days polygamy was normal. Most of them had 2-3 wives. Their spouses never complained. They accepted it. About 20-30 yrs back their partners complained, some went to court, some walked out, some adjusted n some did not. In the present day if your partner cheats on you, her/his spouse will kick his a** n throw him out. Anybody accepts cheating. If this is regressive thinking them I'm glad ppl have changed n they don't take any shit from their partners anymore. The audience also love to watch how he gets kicked.😉


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Posted: 7 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: Ardhanarishwara

Everyone who has criticized the show has put forward their point clearly..

But the fans are still going with "they can't accept grey leads because they are used to mahaan leads crap on repeat mode which is very irritating.

There are 2 possibilities for this to happen.

1)Either they are not reading others posts and just commenting..then what's the point of discussion?

2)Or they are reading it ,understanding it but not ready to accept...just faking ignorance.
"You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep"




I feel the same. Talking about a show explains its impact and success. Social media is a shit place but this is forum where people actually discuss.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Kunal is a CHEATER, and one doesn't have to be regressive or progressive to call him one. PERIOD
His love for nandini has no emotional foundation, he's physically attracted towards her beauty and doesn't have self control to face the reality of being married to a much more qualified and deserving woman who doesn't deserve a betrayal.

People here are questioning other shows like JNDSD , but there vividha was forced to marry Atharva's brother which resulted in Atharva's memory loss and she clarifies with her husband that she will go back to Atharva only. There was not cheating on anyone.

Even in Bepannah, though CVs tried to justify pooja yash EMA, they at least had a strong base where pooja was married to a friend and yeah was married to a woman who was always in her lala land and still pooja yash were wrong to cheat on their spouses.

And here in this forum people justify kunal and nandini even after seeing how kunal was turned on by nandini"so rain dance and how nandini was free from an abusive marriage.

My question is how many victims of domestic violence can fall in love so fast and move on without even self exploring and doing a fresh start to have a respectable stand for herself ? Is it that easy?

For me this show flops not because of the concept but because of spineless leads who has no life of their own, poor execution, cheesy bg music to romanticize awkward sexual tension between kunal and nandini and last but not the least a disaster of a male lead, kunal is the worst written colors male lead by far if you compare with characters like Aditya, Roop , Herman and Deep where each of them has a better role than female leads.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: TeAmo_Messi

Kunal is a CHEATER, and one doesn't have to be regressive or progressive to call him one. PERIOD

His love for nandini has no emotional foundation, he's physically attracted towards her beauty and doesn't have self control to face the reality of being married to a much more qualified and deserving woman who doesn't deserve a betrayal.

People here are questioning other shows like JNDSD , but there vividha was forced to marry Atharva's brother which resulted in Atharva's memory loss and she clarifies with her husband that she will go back to Atharva only. There was not cheating on anyone.

Even in Bepannah, though CVs tried to justify pooja yacht EMA, they at least had a strong base where pooja was married to a friend and yeah was married to a woman who was always in her lala land and still pooja yash were wrong to cheat on their spouses.

And here in this forum people justify kunal and nandini even after seeing how kunal was turned on by nandini"so rain dance and how nandini was free from an abusive marriage.

My question is how many victims of domestic violence can fall in love so fast and move on without even self exploring and doing a fresh start to have a respectable stand for herself ? Is it that easy?

For me this show flops not because of the concept but because of spineless leads who has no life of their own, poor execution, cheesy bg music to romanticize awkward sexual tension between kunal and nandini and last but not the least a disaster of a male lead, kunal is the worst written colors male lead by far if you compare with characters like Aditya, Roop , Herman and Deep where each of them has a better role than female leads.

Absolutely😊
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Posted: 7 years ago
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More than the audience it's the writers and creatives of Tv shows who have becomes regressive. In the name of entertainment they start out with senstive subjects but then what happens to them god knows. Coz they don't show it well, not convincing enough for everyone to digest the straying feelings of the leads. It's not like audience can't accept ema. If presented well, even with a good wife, it's kinda acceptable. Without any rain dance ogling, babaji doing broker job in the name of foretelling, just with realistic emotions. The actors are good but the cvs just couldn't do justice to such a concept.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Did someone bring in JNDSD? HAILA!

Ok that was a completely different scenario. Vividha was FORCED! Her love was brutally beaten up and she had to marry the other guy. However, as soon as she found Atharv again she told Ravish straight up. She never hid anything from him, she even volunteered to leave the house as she couldn't stay in the marriage. She was bold and gutsy enough to admit that she could never love her husband.

Kunal, Nandini and Mauli's situation is completely different! Kunal and Mauli were IN love mutually, it was marriage by consent! Kunal fell in love' with Nandini, he confessed and now he's probably going to hide it from Mauli. That's betrayal all over!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

In polygamy, all the wives KNOW that their husband has married all of them. Obviously it's not as common now as it was back then.

It's not about being regressive. Its about telling a sensitive topic in the way it should be. I started watching the show for the concept. Everyone knew Kunal & Nandini were going to have an EMA. That's not the problem! The problem is HOW these two have fallen in love. They're bringing in God when there's no need to. It's an affair, Kunal and Nandini are going to go behind Mauli's back - Where does God come from?

I've said this from the start. Anyone who has always had a problem with the core concept of the show, they shouldn't even be watching it! However, criticising the way the story is being told is not regressive. It's the incorrect term completely IMO.

I really enjoyed KANK, Astitva and even whatever I saw of Hasratein. Silsila doesn't touch those shows boldness because they haven't kept it very real'. They've added romantic background music and dialogues to suggest that there's nothing wrong in what they're doing. If they're not doing anything wrong then tell Mauli!



Ahhh Astitva was one hell of a show! But I don't remember there being an ema? I think the FL was 10 years older to the ML or something na? And I can't for the life of me remember their names. Someone please enlighten me. FL was a doctor.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nirja1994



Ahhh Astitva was one hell of a show! But I don't remember there being an ema? I think the FL was 10 years older to the ML or something na? And I can't for the life of me remember their names. Someone please enlighten me. FL was a doctor.



Yep the ML was 10 years older than the FL. Her husband, played by Varun Badola ended up having an affair with his assistant or was it model?! One of the two anyway. I vividly remember they implied that they did it in the car 😆 Then he left the FL and later realised he made a big mistake. I'm not sure if they got together in their older age, there was a leap.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Luv_PaRiAnSh

More than the audience it's the writers and creatives of Tv shows who have becomes regressive. In the name of entertainment they start out with senstive subjects but then what happens to them god knows. Coz they don't show it well, not convincing enough for everyone to digest the straying feelings of the leads. It's not like audience can't accept ema. If presented well, even with a good wife, it's kinda acceptable. Without any rain dance ogling, babaji doing broker job in the name of foretelling, just with realistic emotions. The actors are good but the cvs just couldn't do justice to such a concept.

The writers are treating the audience with kid gloves. To a certain extent I understand their hesitancy, because it is an Indian audience. But then we are exposed to a lot of stuff now, toh aisa nahin ki hume reality dekh ke koyi sadma lag jayega. Funnily, the way they are showing it now, doosron ka toh pata nahin, par mujhe sadma lag raha hai 😆
I have watched many shows on the same topic, both foreign and Indian, but no where have they tried to entice the audience with this bhagvaan jaap. I am yet to watch a western show where the man who is just about to jump into bed with a paraayi aurat says , " In the name of everything that is holy and sacred ,I am going to eff you!! 😆😆

Coming back to our show, I'd really like Kunal to repeat everything to Nandini in front of Mauli. And I think when Mauli questions him, he will show her the way to the Mandir. He might even just book an Ola/Uber for her straight to the temple. "Jo poochna hai, Bhagwaan se Poocho Bhai.. Maine kuch nahin kiya, sab Bhagwaan ka hi diya hua hai.."


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: intruderfast

If audiences say Ema is wrong, how does it make them regressive.

Well in olden days, men used to have multiple wives,
So was it progressive. 😆
Show Ema, but just cos it's between the leads, doesn't mean it becomes right and ppl will not find faults with them
Kunal and Nandini shld not be subjected to criticism just cos they r leads😆.
I have no problem with Ema shown, but then don't paint it as a good thing.
God forbids if what is happening with Mauli happens to us, would we say, arre chodo ye regressive thinking hai meri. - let my hubby and frnd have an affair, that is progressive🤣

Completely agree with this...just bcoz they r leads, doesn't make this matter right...viewers should call out what is wrong, even though they love the actors.

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