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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: znursingh

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Posted: 13 years ago

#32

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

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Purva

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Posted: 13 years ago

#33

🥺 Blocking does not work 😭😭😭😭

I thought if you block someone, you wouldn't be able to see their posts. Is there anyway to do that?

Perhaps i should post this on the helpdesk

Edited by Chitrashi - 13 years ago

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i think u have missed the entire point!
>>>> NO,I did NOT! I answered you point by point! ! Missing the point is YOUR forte!!

teh government of india should make at least the basic facilities like a secure campus and basic infrastructure available to the practising folks. without which it is just a silly talk to come and lecture the entire medicine community to do rural practise. lest of all people in IT departments and other elite groups.
>>>Your persecution complex is showing.AGAIN! WHY not people in the IT industry? They don't need medical care?! I have no idea who you are slighting with THAT patronizing remark!
You are a Doctor and demand respect-yet you can't find ANY respect in your mean little heart for professionals from other fields? BAH!

it is not like doctors dont go there
>>>Yeah! YOU certainly enjoyed your stint in social service!Gave RINGING endorsements too!
as part of internship one has to put in compulsory rural posting!
>>>There IS a difference between HAVING to do something for qualifying and SERVICE!
Something that is too hard for you to grasp.
what good is that since the medical centers r not even equipped with basic equipments ( which is not doctors' fault by the way ) and the only thing being done there is again REFERRAL!
>>>> So, its not HARD work is it?!

U WANT THEM TO SPEND THEIR ENTIRE LIVES AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES
>>> Did I say that? I said YOUR attitude to rural practice was disgraceful.
well u can brow beat as much as u want but no one is ever going to do that.
>>> You are the one who is repeatedly putting forth infantile ideas on all threads and NO amount of counter arguments penetrates your thick skin!
Do you really think all of rural India is going Doctor-less because of the selfish attitude of some Doctors like YOU????

as for the rest i do apologise to some one senior as from ur replies u certainly came across as teenager.
>>>>REALLY poor education! Didn't even learn to render an unqualified, graceful apology??
Thank GWAD my RURAL Doc has more class,more manners,more dedication and less of a superiority complex than a doctor like you

im not in the US , my marriage was not my choice, certainly not with the intent of availing greener pastures
>>> Who cares WHERE you live or HOW/WHY you married?
STOP DRAGGING YOUR FAMILY & YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES OF YOUR MARRIAGE INTO THIS FORUM. So long as you are not blighting the medical scene in India?! Where ever you are-they may be equipped to deal with your many neurosis and stream of self pitying whines
and i certainly dont have any obligation to prove my any qualities to you.
>>>> WHAT QUALITIES? Cowardice? Are you not the one who insults people on the open forum and then begs pardon by sending PMs to the ones you insulted??

I'm really sick and tired of trying to make some sense of what you say-obdurately silly people are hard to deal with and its a total waste of my time and IF space.

UFF!!!!

PS=FYI-- While posting have you noticed a wavy line appear under some words? Its not a random decorative feature-it is a signal that the word is MIS-SPELT!!

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Posted: 13 years ago

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parents and a minor ARE different entities

someone mentioned in another topic, that the parents were divorced, themother worked and he didnt have enough finances to pursue the course he wanted to.

Different entities.

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Posted: 13 years ago

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no it most definitely is not temporary cold. it is when the infection reaches the bony cavities lined by mucous linings and infects them that u categorise it as sinusitis. it is a terrible condition i not life threatening. it gives to enormous head aches and it can become life threatening if the infection are reaching the brain ascening via the connections.

IT most definitely IS-an aggravated cold!! A HYPOCHONDRIAC pill pusher? Simple,effective RURAL remedy-DO NETHI DAILY before infection sets in!!

fine then u will have less and less people joining medicine if u constantly badger them to spend their entire lives in villages. it is not just mewho is saying that ... th eocndition itself speaks. if u can push for betetr infrastucture then good , if u cant then the problem s only going to worsen ...governent putting clauses is only going to make people STOP joining medicine! and no amount of forum rant and slandering is going to help that!

YES.Definitely less of your ilk will will join the profession-which may actually turn out to be a blessing for rural India in particular & all of it in general.

the investment is done by the parents but since when parents and minor children become separate entity? and again an assumption ... i was in govt medical college and got there purely on merit 15 years back. the expenditur eincurred by my father was 3 lakhs. 25000 was the fees per semester and the hostle and mess expenditures calculated over six years got us this figure.u can say thats measly amount but for my father it was considerable! u expect parents to dish out that money to send their kids for this future? i am sure every parent including ur own ( sorry that not a jibe only a reference) will prefer their kids joining IT.

Parents and children ARE seperate entities-but you have to be evolved to understand THAT concept! You are constantly hitting below the belt and the LOUDEST in squealing if some one takes a jibe at you!

it dsnt look like that posters here are mature. if they have such hard time even contemplating what is veing said.. and blood bath well the post i have seen resembling closely to a blood bath is urs and ZNURsingh's again im sorry i dont remember ur name properly.

thank you.

NO,of course you wouldn't see any maturity in anybody ELSE! Jejune minds have a problem with comprehension.Besides YOU are SO occupied patting yourself on your back for your own maturity that you have no time to assess anybody else!
Google word meaning of bloodbath! If there is any murder being committed here it is of logic & common sense-by YOU!
Do learn SOME manners-address people by their name.You DON'T have to remember our names forever! When you are replying to a post,the name is of the poster is on top of the box you are typing your tripe in

kindly continue with the discussion as the TM wants it to go.
We ARE trying...but you keep barging in with your regressive & self serving nonsense !
PLEASE go visit Lord Vikrant's thread-you will find GREAT consonance there! STAY!!

Edited by znursingh - 13 years ago

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Posted: 13 years ago

#37

Originally posted by: Chitrashi
🥺 Blocking does not work 😭

I thought if you block someone, you wouldn't be able to see their posts. Is there anyway to do that?

Perhaps i should post this on the helpdesk

LOL Chitrashi! I need a filter too! But blocking works sporadically only on the PM feature!!
Are you from the IT industry?!
Lets clean the blood off the floor and go look for STRONG industrial strength MEDICALLY approved filters,yes?!

Edited by znursingh - 13 years ago

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tanya94

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Posted: 13 years ago

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hey..i can relate somwhere to what u said as i have just passed my 12th n dropped one yr to get into mbbs...n well even ive faced many issues while getting into mbbs itslf...60 % seats are reserved...n im nt exagerating it is 60% in govt colleges...n in private colleges the fees is quite a lot... this isue shud have been raised ...i also feel that there is nthng wrong if the govt wants to uplift the weeker sections of the society but i dnt like its approach...instead of making them capable enough the govt is providing reservation n allowing them to enter with much lower cutoffs than a student belonging to general category wud have been allowed...im ok with reservations for phsically challenegd students as they have a genuine reason..but reservation on the basis of cast is nt justified...n when u allow students to enter into mbbs just bec of their caste n when they arent capable enough (bec they are allowed entrance in low cutoffs n given other benefits like noo negative marking) then the quality of doctors our country will generate is very obvious and the reason for all these malpractices is also very obvious...the govt shud make ppl who are underpriveleged capable enough by providing them coaching so that they clear the entrance with equal marks as students of general category...they shud be made capable enough and nt just given benefits bec of their caste...in that case the quality of doctors our country produces wud definetly be much better n these malpracties wud also decline i feel

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Purva

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Now those are very valid points that you raised Tanya.

Reservation, I've always felt is the bane of the country. Like I mentioned earlier - the relationship between the patient and the doctor is that of trust and when one goes to a doctor one doesn't ask him how much he scored in his MBBS.

On one hand we are making it difficult for meritorious students to get quality education and therefore further opportunities; on the other hand we are wasting good teachers and resources on students who don't deserve them.

Ironically, when Ambedkar had introduced the concept of reservations in the constitution, the idea was that this facility should be extended only for the first 25 years, thereby enabling the first generation to catch up with the rest of the world and thereafter they would look after their own. It was never meant to be so high as 60% - it was never meant to be religion, caste and gender related. it was supposed to be an olive branch to the poor and the down-trodden. Stupid vote-bank politics has changed a boon into a curse.

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charminggenie

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Posted: 13 years ago

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'Tanya and CHitrashi,

Very well presented the aftereffects of one of the most regressive policies of modern Indian-the great Reservation saga.It is is a step back as far us as a nation is concerned, much exploited by the polity and the society.

Reservations can never be a solution or a way forward for unifying the society it does nothing but bifurcate us even more, the candidate who gets through via a reserved seat is further allienated from his peers as he is often judged and mocked. has it unabled us to see every socially backward person get educated, or has it changed the society mindset?
Vote bank politics has futher widened the gaps in the society now regionalism is another prolitical gimmick which is well exploited.Vacant reserved category seats in IITs and other elite institutes narrate the whole story .

Rather than narrowing down opportunities at the highest level, we should focus on providing a level playing field, educate every child irrespective of its caste, religion etc.

A proession like medicine which is soley based on ones' skills and talent and has tremendous risk factors attached to it should be made free of reservation rather set up economic aid to the deserving and needy candidates. A mere 5-10% of total general competitive seats seriously raises the questions about the efficiency of these doctors.

It pains to see that in this age and era we as a society are moving backwards, y do i see a rise in social evils and murkiness of Indian politics ready to clip the wings of India once again.

See it is Govts duty to bring more transparency and reforms in Medical education, it is IMC and IMA's job to regulate and account for medical practices and at last it is a Doctor's duty to stay true to his/her oath.

Edited by charminggenie - 13 years ago

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