my note as a MBBS doctor - change the system EDIT - Page 2

They did try to raise point of causes by talking about private medical colleges, donations etc.

But I agree that this show's biggest weakness and reason for it getting bashed are that it does not discusses root causes of problems. Only in episodes on DV etc. did it discuss cause.

Look, Aamir or his team never applied all or none principle and never said all doctors are bad. It's people who are assuming he called all docs bad.

Also, because conditions and life of a medical student and doctor are harsh it does not mean malpractices are justified. Corruption and malpractices by doctors directly endanger lives of people.

I think it is for people to decide what they want. If you want cash, quick ''settlement'' in life, comfortable working hours etc., then pick up some other profession. One should know what one's getting into.

My own dad's a doctor so yes I know the issues plaguing healthcare sector are more complex - doctors get beaten up, they are pressurised by pharma companies, politicians interfere too much, they are overworked and underpaid, there's added pressure in criminal cases and they are forced to make fake reports or else threatened with dire consequences etc. I wish Aamir had shown at least a bit of this on his show. Still it does not mean that pressures on doctors give them excuses for indulging in malpractices.

Originally posted by: annika20

They did try to raise point of causes by talking about private medical colleges, donations etc.

But I agree that this show's biggest weakness and reason for it getting bashed are that it does not discusses root causes of problems. Only in episodes on DV etc. did it discuss cause.

Look, Aamir or his team never applied all or none principle and never said all doctors are bad. It's people who are assuming he called all docs bad.

Also, because conditions and life of a medical student and doctor are harsh it does not mean malpractices are justified. Corruption and malpractices by doctors directly endanger lives of people.

I think it is for people to decide what they want. If you want cash, quick ''settlement'' in life, comfortable working hours etc., then pick up some other profession. One should know what one's getting into.

My own dad's a doctor so yes I know the issues plaguing healthcare sector are more complex - doctors get beaten up, they are pressurised by pharma companies, politicians interfere too much, they are overworked and underpaid, there's added pressure in criminal cases and they are forced to make fake reports or else threatened with dire consequences etc. I wish Aamir had shown at least a bit of this on his show. Still it does not mean that pressures on doctors give them excuses for indulging in malpractices.

Originally posted by: Chitrashi

Agreed to all the points you make.

But the biggest losers in the fake medical colleges are not students but patients.

What happens in these colleges is that there is inadequate teaching staff and the students do not get the benefit of the same tough education system that you mentioned in your first post. The students more often than not come out with half knowledge and who is going to suffer from this inadequate education - the patient.

When one goes to a doctor, one does not question him about where he got his degree from, how many years he took to complete the medical course, how much did he score et al. The patient-doctor relationship is that of implicit trust.

The other point you've raised - that of restrictions on going abroad. This comes as a result of the brain drain hat happened in the 70s and 80s. There were not so many doctors in India then and there was a crying need for doctors. The government was subsidizing medical education and yet soon as a doctor passed he would go to more lucrative countries like US, UK, Canada etc. So rampant was the practice that doctors were leaving the country in droves. Sorry but it is the medical community itself that is to blame for the current state of affairs.

The same goes for rural practice, when so many people claim that they are not in the profession for money, why is it that the hospitals like AIIMS are inundated with patients everyday when these ailments could be cured in the local hospital also? The answer is that doctors refuse to go and practice in rural areas. It is a shame that most people die of gangrene, insanitary conditions, women and children dying in childbirth, oh the list is endless. And it could all be arrested if more doctors would practice in rural areas.

The fees you say are high, but why is it so, have you considered? People are ready to pay any amount to get a seat in the college close to their homes or the most prestigious college of that area. Why not go to the other colleges? The subsidies of funds of these other colleges are cut because students don't go there. Students want everything as swanky as they see in movies before they would go to other colleges. It is a Catch-22 situation.

Originally posted by: BHAVI1972

Natasha, thank you for showing us the issues with the profession. Being a professional there are law and ethics that every one has to follow. Just because you spent so much time and money does not warrant you to do things that are wrong.

You are lucky that you will be getting 16000-18000 /month as your first salary. There are many professions who does not even hit 10000/ month as their first salary.

Originally posted by: earth1978

i am sorry if u find anything offensive in my reply to you. but as a non medico perhaps it is easy for you to imagine ... that doctors shoudl go to rural practise. doctors shoudl do social service.

have u ever wondered the conditions rural services involve. have u ever been to a village?

i hav ebeen to quite a few in my time. the experience was horrendous. i used to sleep in a bed soaked with moisture. i got sinusitis. the campus was unmanned and un guarded. there was no light to walk back , we held torches.

so i am a female what if in the darkness i am kidnapped and raped?

who is there to come to my rescue.

tomorrow i may want to get married ... my husband may not be a doctor ... what will i do? postpone even marriage becuase i have to go in rural areas? or pay lakhs of rupees to get out of the situation?

suppose my husband is also a doctor , then both of us practise inthe village ... then we get kids ... where shoudl we educate them?

in the village?

in hostles away from us?

shoudl we as husband and wife stay separate with one in village an done in city completely disrupting our family life?

our kids would also want the colors of city life which even we had seen ... btu they are forced to spend their live sin a village becuase their parents are doctors?

please think.