Role of cinema and mass media too! - Violence

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I wish Aamir had shown role of cinema and mass media also in re-affirming stereotypes about women and promoting patriarchy - even glorifying violence against women. But it's sad he did not do so. And though I know we must focus on issues and not on him alone still I can't help but speak on this.

He highlighted stereotypes in cinema about the disabled. But what about the useless representation of women?

Remember popular dialogues from Guide and Gadar in which the heroes say, bhai main toh apni biwi se khana banwaunga, pair dabwaunga...etc. etc., aur agar usne zyada ''te-te'' ki na toh do chaar rakh bhi doonga ya thappad laga doonga!

And heroine asks, aur pyar nahi karoge? The hero (after all he is HERO na!) says, haan pyar toh bahut karunga!

So heroine forgets all other work and threat of slaps and goes ahead to say, toh phir pair dabaane mein, ghar saaf karne mein, rotiyan banaane mein aur thapad khaane mein bhi koi ghum nahi! In Gadar Amisha even says to Sunny that she is ready to bear his slaps also, if only he promises he will also love her!🤢

This is just one example. In cinema, it is promoted that woman should accept her husband at all costs, no matter what that guy is - just as Nirupa Roy accepted the mawaali Amjad Khan in Suhaag despite knowing this man deserted her and her kids to rot and told her father to sell her to a brothel if he were so worried about her!

Woman should bear slaps also, if the husband loves her or keep hoping that someday he will love her back. There have been very few films which challenged this mindset. Most of them only objectify women or put them at mercy of son, husband or lover. In Karan Arjun the woman is even willing to wait for her sons' reincarnation (!) but won't file a case or take on the goons herself. In 3 Idiots too, Kareena is about to marry the same Suhas who she had earlier rejected. Why? Because according to her, Suhas has changed now. It's only revealed later how he's the same old MCP! In that film, Kareena never takes any decision of her own. She is mostly led by men - either her father or her lover or even her lover's friend! In how many films women take a stand?

Are movie wallahs careful of their language? I cringe when SRK says to Kajol's mother in DDLJ - ''Ab Simran aapki nahi meri pareshaani hai''. And all of them smile. 🤢 So a girl is always a pareshaani or a zimmedaari. Sometimes for her natal relatives and later for her lover or husband and then for her son or grandson! She is someone else's burden and has no identity of her own?
And see how in HAHK they conveniently want to marry the younger sister to her Jija only to replace older one in household and take all responsibilities!

As for TV shows, well we have had Tulsi and Parvati and their umpteen clones accept their husbands back in their lives despite affairs and give motherly love to their husbands' illegitimate kids. These women get abused and even kicked out of house by their own families, still they return to their parivaar!

TV shows also play it kind of safe by showing a Parvati fight against marital rape for another person in their family. But the same righteous Parvati accepts any torture from her in-laws! So what role model is she?

What about films like Laadla where a ''spoilt'' girl is to be set ''right'' by her asli mard husband? Sridevi is ''spoilt'' in it only because she is successful, stickler for discipline and is a go getter who reached her position due to her own hard work? Men have right to throw their weight around. But independent Sridevi in Laadla is a disgrace to womanhood.

Anil Kapoor saab even taught feminity, virtues and broke ''ghamand'' of Hema Malini in Jamai Raja - a film where a super successful achiever Hema is deserted by her entire family!

So many examples of working women and achievers being portrayed as some witches who always have broken families. So many examples of girls enjoying even husbands' slaps as long as he did love them at some point.

So many songs which glorify eve-teasing [Razia gundon mein phas gayi, Munni badnaam hui, Tun odho meri jaan dupatta sambhaal ke etc.] and either celebrate disrobing of a woman, joke about parts of her body or warn her of being chased or used if she does not take care of herself.

Aamir talks about gender issues in Satyamev Jayate. So do likes of Hema Malini on TV or in magazines like New Woman. SRK claims he respects women. Likes of Ash, Preity etc. are crowned as some power women. But have these big shots ever done anything to change in their own field? Has any man ever refused to utter misogynistic or stereotypical lines? Has any heroine ever refused to dance to a vulgar song? Has any singer ever refused to sing songs with stereotypical and dirty lyrics?

The artistes say it's a creative field and they can do anything they like. But does creativity mean no social responsibility? Not bothering about impact on people's psyche?

Heroines complain of being pinched at public places or greeted with lewd remarks. But ever wonder how they invite this upon themselves the moment they agree to dance to songs like Choli ke peeche kya hai or Sheila ki jawani?

Can you guys risk a flop but stick to principles? How will people's psyche change if mass media itself peddles worst kind of stereotypes?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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wow

thats something i had not reflected upon

we talk about the shows on television where women are potrayed as a vamp or a crying bahu beti or whatever but the examples u gave ARE so many. 😕
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This is the point! We never think of language being used. Never reflect upon ads and other signs in front of us which shape our psyche.

Now all insurance ads show men as providers and women as a burden, consumer or responsibility. Why does only a man need LIC insurance? Why not a woman? Do we still assume women do not earn or do not have to provide for family? Why does woman get respect only as a mummy? Why can't a tired college girl ask for Women's Horlicks?

Decisions such as choosing the right cement for the building lie with men (probably they are more intelligent you see) but women only decide what to cook, what perfume to wear, what food item to use and what colour or piece of furniture to choose for the house?

Ever seen any ad for loans in which a woman is taking loan on her own? It is always the men or men accompanied by wives.

In KANK why does SRK outgrow his wife and mother of his kid, Preity Zinta? Simply because she's become more successful than him in career?

In Aamir's own Raja Hindustani why does Aamir forbid Karisma to visit her rich dad or accept gifts from him? And did anyone notice, in the end it is Karisma and her father who apologise to Aamir. Aamir never apologises for his own egoistic conduct! He graciously accepts his wife back only after she ''realises'' her mistakes and it is found that it was her step mother who created problems between them.

Of course, there have been films like Anjaam in which a woman took a strong stand and finished off the guy who ruined her life! Mrityudand and Lajja are other examples. Too bad and perhaps reflective of our society that a Madhuri's HAHK or Tezaab are super hits while her pro-female films are all flops.

One can say female characters in say, RDB were strong. But why do Alice's and Soha's characters stay unmarried till end? They only lost their BFs. Not their husbands. Why live single or like a widow?

Even so-called strong characters are not exactly strong. Mother India is a joke wherein the woman can act against her son but keep bearing all tortures from all other sections of society all her life. In CDI we have strong women - but who organises them or leads them to victory? A man!

And why does a woman have to ultimately surrender to a man if he saves her from rape? Sridevi hates Anil throughout Laadla, but falls for him and ''changes'' only after he saves her from a gang rape. Madhuri hates Aamir in Dil but falls for him only after he refuses to rape her and does not take advantage of situation. SRK is disliked by Kajol initially in DDLJ, but she falls for him only after she finds he took care of her and did not rape her/take advantage of her when she was alone and not in her senses!

Is it some ehsaan or great deed if a hero does not rape?! Why should a woman be thankful if a man did not take ''advantage'' of her? And even get ready to offer herself to him when she finds he did not rape her or saved her from rape?

It's like we assume that a man is bound to rape or take advantage of a woman in a sexual way. And if he does not then please drink his charnamrit!🤢

And really how many working women have been portrayed in a sane manner in films or serials? Even if a working woman is nice - she is nice only if she also cooks at home, massages her husband's head, gives medicines to in-laws on time, tends to kids and is best friend even to the maid! I remember a Jaya Prada-Jeetendra film in which Jaya was Jeetu's boss at work. But at home she would sit at his feet. Not sleep till he slept, not eat till he ate, arrange his cupboard etc. and do everything that a housewife also does.

Never seen anyone expect a man to help at home too. A man helps at home only if he is jobless. Just as Aamir Khan's character in Akele Hum Akele Tum who rarely bothers about chores when he has work. But learns all house work when he loses both wife and job!

And who can forget the Jhooth bole kauwa kaate song from Bobby? Just one warning from Rishi Kapoor - Tu maayke chali jayegi main teri sauten laaunga is enough to bring Dimple to his feet who later relents and says she will never go to maayka again!😡 The boy is not told his threat is wrong. It is the girl who budges and falls to the boy's feet.

What bullshit our songs and films show. And here we say mindset has to change! 😲
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Posted: 13 years ago
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speechless !! :)

that reminds me , i was talkin to a guy regarding matrmonial purpose, and he started asking me if i can cook, clean the house etc, he was laughing but some how i dont find that funny looking back at it now.

p.s. do post these two posts in SMJ website. hopefully people can read it there as well :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Annika20

I think what you are saying is particularly true of Indian TV. I cannot tell you the number of times I have pointed out the underlying patriarchal messages in TV shows and each time I have done so, I have been shouted down as being too "unrealistic" or "modern" or "western" ...😕

That made me even more disgusted than the TV shows themselves!

The show today dealt with physical violence...and that certainly needed to be done, but the spectrum of abuse is a large one...emotional abuse, psychological abuse...the scars of which are not obvious or visible.

And our TV shows do a bang up job of glorifying the full range of abuse. The story-line is predictable.
1. Woman is abused (physically/emotionally/psychologically...you name it) by husband/mother-in-law/family member

2. Woman bears it with great stoicism because she is "Sanskari",

3. Eventually the abusers realize what a gem said Woman is and "accept" her (they sometimes don't even apologize - that would be too modern!)...


The message of these shows is clear...Take the abuse and one day you will be rewarded with the love of your husband/family...

PUKEWORTHY! Irresponsible and downright insulting.

And we continue to consume this outrageous nonsense as entertainment!!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree that cinema and TV shows too play into all these stereotypes and depict the unequality between male and female in a favourable manner. But these shows and cinemas are a by-product of the stereotypical attitude in the society, and these cinemas then contribute to more stereotype thinking,thereby furthering it. It has become a viscous cycle. Somewhere, this cycle should break and it can happen if this kind of thinking is changed from an individual level. The audiences and the makers should change their individual mind-sets to bring about the necessary positive changes in the cinemas and shows.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: nirvanlove

speechless !! :)

that reminds me , i was talkin to a guy regarding matrmonial purpose, and he started asking me if i can cook, clean the house etc, he was laughing but some how i dont find that funny looking back at it now.

p.s. do post these two posts in SMJ website. hopefully people can read it there as well :)

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Should have told him that you were rejecting him because he was too much of a miser and not earning enough to even hire a maid. And as for you, cooking and cleaning are "male jobs" since men are physically stronger, they can do cleaning better and anyway all good chefs all the world are male which proves that cooking is male job.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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What about SP's own no.1 show DABM or the current favs Saathiya and IPKKND - aren't they all rife examples of DV?

Easy to drool over the supposed romance between Khushi and Arnav - but for god's sake when will it get into the heads of the romance crazy junta that he married her out f spite and his treatment of her is shabby to say the least? Did anyone notice that she earns her own livelihood, despite being in a rich family? No romance for me there, I seriously want to knock sense into the heads of the droolers.

Abd DABM - con an IPS aspirant into getting married to an illiterate halwai in order to get hold of her share of property and the mad junta goes ecstatic about the beginning or "romance", Oh really? The atrocities that are visited upon her in the name of "sanskaar" make me want to slap the girl silly. Only thing I'm glad about is that wimp of creature did not study for the exams, else she would be advising future victims to go back to their abusive MILs.

Saathiya - He hasn't even looked at her in more than a year of marriage, rapes her once in a drunken condition and she is happy?

Not one of the fans would be ecstatic about the romance in all these serials if she was put into the same situation would she?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Chitrashi

I didn't want to name names...but yes, DABH is a prime example of glorifying the abuse of women!

I was actually disappointed when Aamir promoted SJ on that show. Deeply disappointed.

He joked about watching the show with his ammi and all that, but does he really know what goes on in that show?! That to me was a let down.

The makers of DABH are also responsible for other crazy shows wherein the abuse of daughters-in-law by their mothers-in-law is glorified as something cute and playful! 😕 Kairee on Colors. in which the m-i-l's abuse is so outrageous...pinching, strarving, making the d-i-l consume raw chillies...the list is mid boggling!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Oh yes Kairee is another one, how I detest that one, and wouldn't I do to the writers of such shows, if I ever got to lay my hands on them.

I only took the example of SP's shows because SP is projecting itself as this channel which champions progressive thinking but has the most regressive bouquet of shows.


I much preferred the old DD. even a show as far back as Hum Log and Buniyad had excellent progamming and messaging. I remember the portrayal of DV and differentiation between sons and daughters in Hum Log and how it was dealt with, compared to the regressive trash that is beamed these days.
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