Role of cinema and mass media too! - Violence - Page 3

Originally posted by: BHAVI1972

Usually media is supposed to be the reflection of the society around especially in India. If people are following the actors or movies then people are at fault rather than movie makers. 😛There are number of movies where women have been shown with great respect and dignity as well 😊

If we are debating on domestic violence then your point is invalid. However if we are debating on overall violence then the debate is totally a different one.

I never watch a movie with violence and if it goes beyond a certain level then ignore those movies all together. So i would think that even people should have atleast the sense of responsibility and have to be selective.

We have to start taking responsibility. We can not pass on the responsibility to others in the name of culture, education, entertainment.🤢

Originally posted by: nancy1996

Agree with all your points...except...the one in bold... just because actresses dance to songs like Sheila/Munni.. doesn't mean guys can tease them... guys need to have the sense to understand that what the actress is portraying on tv.. is just a character and at end of the day an actress is like any other girl. The problem ultimately comes down to the fact that woman are more or less treated as objects (e.g. get married by certain age..or else😆.) in our society.

Ok, now back to silent mode.😊

See whether we admit it or not, women doing such acts does entice men and it does objectify women in general. Have you ever seen comments on Youtube on such songs or even scenes? They write such pathetic and perverse language that one feels like puking!

I always think that heroines must see those comments and see what kind of mentality they are fuelling and catering to by agreeing to perform to such dirty lyrics and songs.

Emran Hashmi's female fan recently reportedly bit his butt in public. Isn't that creepy and shameless? But as much as I feel for him as an individual whose privacy was violated and as much as I blame the girl who did such a foolish act - I also attribute Emran's OTT and overdose of sex in his films which lead to such stuff!

Guys need to understand what? Let's not kid ourselves. If people can emulate hero's dialogues or clothes or if a film (say a Rang De Basanti or Taare Zameen Par) can spring people into some debate or action in real life, then it explains for itself how deeply films reach the human psyche!

Audio-visual medium is very very powerful and it must be used very carefully.

Even research has documented how men get provoked to rape by watching po*n and even ''hot scenes'' or songs in films!

If there was nothing wrong in Sheila or Munni then actresses themselves wouldn't be rushing to cover themselves with black shawls every time the director said ''Cut!'' while shooting such songs.

Heroines are viewed in most perverted manner. And nowadays, increasingly heroes too. They must stop promoting teasing of the either sex.

Originally posted by: annika20

See whether we admit it or not, women doing such acts does entice men and it does objectify women in general. Have you ever seen comments on Youtube on such songs or even scenes? They write such pathetic and perverse language that one feels like puking!

I always think that heroines must see those comments and see what kind of mentality they are fuelling and catering to by agreeing to perform to such dirty lyrics and songs.

Emran Hashmi's female fan recently reportedly bit his butt in public. Isn't that creepy and shameless? But as much as I feel for him as an individual whose privacy was violated and as much as I blame the girl who did such a foolish act - I also attribute Emran's OTT and overdose of sex in his films which lead to such stuff!

Guys need to understand what? Let's not kid ourselves. If people can emulate hero's dialogues or clothes or if a film (say a Rang De Basanti or Taare Zameen Par) can spring people into some debate or action in real life, then it explains for itself how deeply films reach the human psyche!

Audio-visual medium is very very powerful and it must be used very carefully.

Even research has documented how men get provoked to rape by watching po*n and even ''hot scenes'' or songs in films!

If there was nothing wrong in Sheila or Munni then actresses themselves wouldn't be rushing to cover themselves with black shawls every time the director said ''Cut!'' while shooting such songs.

Heroines are viewed in most perverted manner. And nowadays, increasingly heroes too. They must stop promoting teasing of the either sex.

I'm in two minds about this.

First: just because a woman dresses skimpily in a movie/real life, doesn't mean she wants people to invade her privacy

Second: because the lines are increasingly getting blurred between reel and real...an actress/actor saying "kiss me baby" and showing off their sexuality in a movie..and holding the sign "Hit me, I'm available"...it transforms into how they are perceived in real life by a section of society.
If Emraan Hashmi makes all those movies...he MUST be ready to have sex with anyone and so on

@BHAVI1972

My topic is not just about DV. But also about the backward thinking and perceptions related to women, marriage and women's relations to men. The crux of Satyamev Jayate pointed out by Kamla Bhasin and Aamir in the show - about '''soch'' from where all problems arise in first place.

Mass media promotes such regressive thoughts. And rather glorifies violence against women or projects women as inferior. It tells women to tolerate things. It reinforces stereotypes by and large.

Half of our so-called top serials are those in which a woman was married either by force or deception, to an illiterate man or even a mentally disturbed man. But the women in these shows never leave their husbands. Rather spend their whole lifetime trying to ''change'' them or waiting for them to change, adjust themselves and romance!🤢

We have films like SRK's Darr which almost ended up glorifying the stalker and tormentor in the end. They were supposed to be against the stalker. But they treated the character and story thus that audience was made to feel sympathy for the stalker at the end.

And of course, we glorify Sarat Chandra's Devdas and Parineeta both in literature and cinema - wherein the male protagonist violently hitting and scarring his lover is a sign of love! 🤢 Just hate it how Paro in Devdas considers the wound given to her by Devdas as some ''nishaani''. 😡

Remember Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam? Salman handles Ash roughly in it, her bangle breaks and her wrist bleeds. And Ash instead of feeling bad, says ''Iss haath ne galti jo ki'' kind of blah blah and does not even let Salman repent his aggressive act! This is ''love'' you see!

Then there was Baghban in which Hema Malini was telling her grand daughter - ''Beta aurat ke liye zamaana kabhi nahi badalta''! She was rather making her feel sorry for inviting rape attempt on her by wearing skimpy clothes!

Even when women are shown as breadwinners in some serial or film - the women are either widows, divorced or poor daughters unable to marry since they have to shoulder responsibilities at natal home!😡 Why can't a normal woman be a breadwinner?

@Bewafa

I am not talking about skimpy dressing only. But the presentation! Notice how the camera perversely focuses on parts of a woman's body. It's not just skimpy dresses. Then the language used! What the heck is meant by ''angoori badan'' or ''amiya se aam hui''?! And how the hell can any woman tolerate songs like Choli ke peeche kya hai? It is openly known that after that song many eve-teasers started asking women, ''choli ke peeche kya hai, chunri ke neeche kya hai''!!🤢

It is puke-worthy how Saroj Khan glorifies it, counts it as an achievement and happily tells her dancers to be naughty or heave their bosom more forcefully in her dance shows on TV! She is least bothered about it and what the hell she is promoting!

I believe the mentality that you would be considered handsome or beautiful if you wear revealing clothes or leave your shirt unbuttoned is encouraged by media only! No wonder even males as young as 11 want to get into body building and unbutton their shirts to show off their abs! Media promotes objectification and both males and females are happy to be objectified and think of it as something great!

Is it our individuality and choice which makes us feel like unbuttoning our shirts or wear revealing outfits or is it the notion sold by media that revealing it all is sign of beauty or style? 😲

Then there is notion that women dress up only for men! What the heck do you mean by songs like ''Sajna hai mujhe sajnaa ke liye''?! Eve teasers and molesters have the same mentality. They think if the woman is out of the house, it is to make herself available to male gaze. And if she dressed up or dolled up, it was because she ''wanted'' attention from men.

And I agree with Chitrashi's post on how songs and films in 60s encouraged eve-teasing and the whole ''ladki ki naa mein haan'' mentality!🤢

All those dialogues and songs calling beti paraya dhan or amaanat simply reinforce notion of girl being a property or always someone's responsibility with no individual identity of her own.

No denying that films, folk songs, TV serials reinforce crap stereotypes and negative attitudes against women and do not show responsible content!