Aamir's Satyamev Jayate Impact in Real Life!

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Divya

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Posted: 13 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: annika20
Agreed Natalie! I am just proud and thrilled to bits for Team Aamir Khan Productions, STAR and entire SMJ crew. 👏
This is the WAY TO GO! 👍🏼
BTW I learnt Siddhartha Basu was supposed to co-produce this show with Aamir initially, but Aamir did not agree to his suggestions of making the show more entertaining. This is why he backed out and Aamir did it all by himself. He is also badmouthing this show in media circles now. Sour grapes!🤢
And Aamir's rivals toh we all know.😡 Even some rivals of STAR are pissed at the extent and reach of this show. To all jealous ones, I'd only say get a life. Do something better or just shut up and stop littering media space with jealousy!🤢
Dainik Bhaskar is deliberately spreading negativity on the show and making news of even joke tweets. I'd only say either ignore Aamir or at least do not stoop so low and make a fool of yourselves by making headlines of joke tweets.

when people criticize without any logic, it just shows that they r jealous! I was sincerely worried when the show launched that people won't be interested in the topics being raised n would want Aamir to sing n dance for them... 😆
But I'm sooo glad that AK is picking up relevant serious topics n not leaving them hanging but providing solutions, helpline nos., and the way the show dealt with the child sex abuse is commendable 👏 n even the viewers have been watching the show n we r seeing the effect too..

just wanted to know about the Bhaskar one.. what did the paper say on SJ? 😲

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Neeta

@U-No-Poo

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Posted: 13 years ago

#42

...and female foeticide will continue anyway.

I wonder how much power a small screen show can yield upon the judiciary of our country? While it may dare to showcase horrifying realities, but to what extent can it dare to tread upon murky, dirty and scandalous paths?

The issue of female foeticide did not get stirred up when Aamir decided to take it up. It has been around for a very, very long time. And I doubt that our government is not aware of it. It very much is. In fact, some very scattered and minuscule parts of it are submerged in this stinking pond themselves. Stories of 'immediate action' and 'overnight revolution' are born in India every single day, but they die just as quickly. This is a nation where the women's reservation bill has been hanging in the parliament for 13 years, a murder takes 5 years to be presented in court (and still nothing comes out of it), a sick minded pedophile, who murdered 11 kids, sits on his rear for 3 years before the court sentenced him to death, a superstar can get away with murder just because he is a superstar, and half the country has to rally for one year to get our dormant government to even consider the Jan Lokpal Bill.

What the hell are we talking about here? A small little change in our country is not just that. It sits on a wobbly tower of complex and never ending red tape, mind-boggling corruption, money-hungry bureaucrats and a weaker than a 80 years old vegetated patient judiciary system. How much can a little show, jo aaj hai aur kal nahin, achieve under such circumstances? We can be really idealistic and say that change begins with a whisper, but honestly, that's a little hard to believe when millions of people have been shouting, not just whispering, for change for the past 67 years.

Coming back to this topic, I think once again, we are misplacing the blame here. The real problem here are not the doctors, it is the mindset of the parents. You stop the doctors from aborting? Fine, the parents will drown the new-born baby in the river. You make a law against drowning babies in the river? Fine, the parents will poison the baby and bury her in their backyard. You start inspecting every house in India? Fine, the parents will wrap the baby in a cloth and set it on fire.

People will keep finding other means as long as we keep targeting the wrong issue. The doctors are simply an easy and accessible way to get a baby aborted, but they are not the only way. Hence, I feel all this so-called 'action' is nothing but nonsense. Heck, cancelling a doctor's license is the easiest thing a CM can do. The real hard task is to walk into the jhopdi of a man living in the remote villages of Jharkhand and making him understand why a girl is just as valuable as a boy.

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Maitrimanthan

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Posted: 13 years ago

#43

Its not the first time, sometime back Crime Patrol also aired a case on female foeticide, how the police tracked down a big doctor in Maharashtra. These issues are highlighted time to time by shows or media, but what after 6 months, 10 months, or a years after the show is over. Now everyone clicked pictures with each other and news channels we kept busy for a day. Letters being written to the authorities is good BUT what about the followup. Who will tell us if anything really happened on ground level. 7 years ago the sting operation was a big thing, the media went all out but what happened - NOTHING. If someone really wants to make a difference, they should have a followup in place, else to me this is just a money making venture for all parties involved in the show.

The only real positive thing to come out of this show from its 2 episodes was the workshop done with the kids. That was really good. How this has to be conveyed to the child, parents are always confused. They really did where there. I have to appreciate.

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kanak.

@kanak.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#44

I agree these issues are sensationalised for a few days then its back to the same. We never get to know if anything really changed.

Unless the mindset changes, nothing will change. What will a girl born in a family do where she is not needed, not wanted? So many girl are left to die after they are born. This will only change when people over come the kuldeepak mindset.

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642126

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Posted: 13 years ago

#45

To some cynics here:

- What do you mean this is nothing or what about real change? Social change does not happen overnight. Even a small drop in the bucket is more than enough!

In case of social issues, the easiest thing to say is that nothing concrete is going to happen or whatever that has been done is just lip service or too less.

In that sense all NGOs in the world are failed because NOTHING has changed!Poverty is still there, crimes and human rights violations are there so all laws etc. are FAIL?!😆

I say it's a GREAT achievement if a show is raising awareness on social issues and also raising awareness on NGOs that work on those issues. You say ''so-called'' impact? Ask people at Snehalaya and Childline how many more donations, calls and volunteers they are getting after Satyamev Jayate! Snehalaya's website crashed due to the large number of visitors they got after the SJ episode, Satyamev Jayate raised donations worth Rs. 64 lakhs for the NGO and so many people around the world called up that NGO offering help! Today, so many are aware of Childline and its helpline number - it is much more than they themselves could have got!

Licenses of doctors being cancelled or cracking down on clinics practising sex selective abortions is a small thing?

Madam and Sir - it is easy to say what should be done or what is not enough. But has anyone actually done something? No! Each action has value! Armchair commentators even call laws and bills as a failure. So what? I can easily say domestic violence laws in India are useless because it is still happening. I can easily call all NGOs a fraud and a money-making machine. I can dismiss UN for being unable to keep world peace - since wars, upheavals and disputes do happen!

Bolne wale bahut hain. Karne wale bahut kam. Jo kar raha hai, uski chhoti si koshish ko bhi salaam!

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-Aarya-

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Posted: 13 years ago

#46

We should be concentrating on attacking the social menace is our society cause that is our collective responsibility. We need greater awareness, education, ruthless punishment and monitor dubious healthcare centers.And I feel Aamir is just asking us to do exactly that, he is only raising awareness so that it becomes easier for the NGO's and the social workers to find support among the common man. This should help us perform our collective responsibility cause the motives behind all is purely humanitarian.

People who really want to critic the show should have said that Aamir was not thorough in his presentation where as he should have dwelt more on the reasons of this menace in our society? Is the increase of this crime because of increased social pressure of dowry? Or is it because of the need to carry the Family Name to the next generation? What creative solutions can the society offer to resolve the above fears? I think he may have been right as one would not want to dilute the seriousness of the issue. It is for all of us that we do do the soul searching and correct our ways before it it too late. Lets give credit where it's deserved the most rather than pointing fingers.

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Neeta

@U-No-Poo

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Posted: 13 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: annika20
To some cynics here:
- What do you mean this is nothing or what about real change? Social change does not happen overnight. Even a small drop in the bucket is more than enough!
In case of social issues, the easiest thing to say is that nothing concrete is going to happen or whatever that has been done is just lip service or too less.
In that sense all NGOs in the world are failed because NOTHING has changed!Poverty is still there, crimes and human rights violations are there so all laws etc. are FAIL?!😆
I say it's a GREAT achievement if a show is raising awareness on social issues and also raising awareness on NGOs that work on those issues. You say ''so-called'' impact? Ask people at Snehalaya and Childline how many more donations, calls and volunteers they are getting after Satyamev Jayate! Snehalaya's website crashed due to the large number of visitors they got after the SJ episode, Satyamev Jayate raised donations worth Rs. 64 lakhs for the NGO and so many people around the world called up that NGO offering help! Today, so many are aware of Childline and its helpline number - it is much more than they themselves could have got!
Licenses of doctors being cancelled or cracking down on clinics practising sex selective abortions is a small thing?
Madam and Sir - it is easy to say what should be done or what is not enough. But has anyone actually done something? No! Each action has value! Armchair commentators even call laws and bills as a failure. So what? I can easily say domestic violence laws in India are useless because it is still happening. I can easily call all NGOs a fraud and a money-making machine. I can dismiss UN for being unable to keep world peace - since wars, upheavals and disputes do happen!

Bolne wale bahut hain. Karne wale bahut kam. Jo kar raha hai, uski chhoti si koshish ko bhi salaam!

I wish that the problems and their solutions were as black and white as you seem to believe. Unfortunately problem creators and solution-finders both reside in the grey area. How do you know that the CM of Rajasthan didn't just speak up on this issue to gain some political mileage? You see, no politician ever looks at a social issue as a national menace, he/she looks at it as a tool to gain mileage first. Of course, there may be some politicians who genuinely want to bring a change, but they're squashed long before they can make it to the top. So yes, it's hard for me to believe that all this hullabaloo saying 'Bravo SJ! you brought about a change in Rajasthan' or 'It's already creating ripples' is some sort of genuine change, it's just cock-and-bull. If someone can be as naive as to take an Indian neta's words at face value, then I have nothing more to say.

@Bold: NGO's have actually made a difference in the world. Girls are being educated in villages, domestic abuse victims are being given shelter and purpose of life, trees are being planted, animals are being protected etc etc. But the key point here is that they have already made a change. I would have applauded SJ if the show had managed to convince even one set of parents to not kill their girl child in any part of the country. But you know what? Villagers don't watch it and people living in cities don't care. They probably have watched stuff like this loads of times anyway. I know people who claim to vouch for gender equality and women's rights on the surface but blatantly discriminate between their own boys and girls at home. So there are people who know all about equality and women's rights, but still don't follow it personally.

As far as laws are concerned, I don't know about other countries, but the laws of this country are definitely fail 😆 Have you not heard of the local phrase? Parliament mein bill pahuchne se pehele hi uska tod nikal aata hai 😆 Rules are meant to be broken here. It's a sad truth. What to do.

I would also not call myself an armchair commentator because I've protested along with loads of other people for a month for the Lok pal bill in the Ramlila ground, outside college and India gate, given comments for several news channels but bummer, they never aired it. Too bad though, because had I come on TV maybe I would have been given the title of 'koshish karne wala' too 😆

Look, I'm not criticizing the intention of the show. Like I have said before, I appreciate it's outreach and genuinely hope that it will bring some change. But it's not aiming for the real solution by just sending letters to the government, that's not the real problem. The real problem is the mindset of the people (when it comes to issues like foeticide and abuse) and that's what needs to be attacked first. That's all I'm saying.

As far as change goes, the 'drop in the bucket' as you call it, is not actually a drop at all. This is India. No one takes a lavish studio and a movie star seriously. No matter how you look at it.

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Purva

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Posted: 13 years ago

#48

If change has to come it'll come in a second, if it doesn't no amount of work by NGOs or TV shows, or laws or actors is going to usher in a new era.

Did corruption disappear from the country because Anna fasted? Did violence disappear because Gandhi asked for it? Did Munnabhai and his Gandhigiri have an impact on corruption? Did eve-teasing disappear because of the Pink Chaddi campaign?

The impact of SMJ also is going to be similar. Because of its novelty people are going to talk about it for a few days and then they are going to move on to other topics.

It is not the laws that need to change, it is the general apathy. Yesterday a woman who tried to immolate herself died on the roads. Reason, when she killed erself, all the passerby and policemen were busy clicking photographs of the incident and it took 45 minutes before someone thought of taking her to the hospital which was less than a KM away.

it is easy to talk on a discussion forum, the real test is to translate it into action in everyday life and live your life by the principles you preach.

Would we stop giving business to someone who forced his wife to abort a female fetus? Would we fire such a person? Would we socially boycott such a family? Unless we are willing to practice strict discipline in our lives, no point looking for an impact elsewhere.

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-Aarya-

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Posted: 13 years ago

#49

^ I believe these are all hypothetical questions cause we can't expect the answer from a show rather then our inner souls. The real question is how will we as people react? Are we ready to be confronted by actual truths of our societal order or we are just happy as long as we're making a noise about issues! I just don't know how much we as people are willing to be taken down that road of societal change, especially when it offends what we believe in and still we do nothing about it...

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642126

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Satyamev Jayate effect: Rise in complaints of child abuse in Bhopal

Bhopal: As Bollywood actor Aamir Khan's TV show Satyamev Jayate hit the chord with masses right from the onset, a city-based NGO has claimed to have received 12 fresh cases in related issues in the last three days.

Following the telecast of the second episode of the show on child sex abuse on May 13, the city office of Childline has suddenly received two cases related to sexual abuse and others of children being beaten up by their parents and relatives, NGO director Archana Sahay told PTI on Wednesday.

She said in the last three days, they received 12 cases related to children issues, while earlier the cases did not come in such high numbers.

In some cases, children being beaten up by parents or relatives leave their homes and come to Childline for help, she said.

Source - https://daily.bhaskar.com/article/MP-BHO-satyamev-jayate-effect-rise-in-complaints-of-child-abuse-in-bhopal-3277774.html

[It's encouraged people to break the silence and come out! Good work!!👏]

Edited by annika20 - 13 years ago