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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tani91

^I completely agree with that...Suhana is like clay for the CVs right now...they can make her an idiot they can make her a bahu and what not, she's a big blob of Playdogh for the CVs

I havent seen the episode yet and I do love the Kashyaps more than anything on TV at the moment but I do agree that it is wrong for the CVs to ignore that a maternal home is still a part of a woman after being married. My own mother often jokes that it is such a crazy societal norm that we have that girls have to go away to someone else's house.

I feel like they should show some sort of resistance from KK now especially with Sanjana's wedding coming up about Kashyaps and their (how to put this nicely) stupidity sometimes...I remember in Friday's episode that Suhana was talking about the on screen chudail telling Gauri to do crap and he was like W*F Rano said this? I feel like they need to show more situations in which he questions the Kashyaps and their way of handling things

I have a feeling that with RB and Deepak truth coming out he will



Hi there Tani. I have always wanted KK to stand up to the Kashyap's. So what if they are loving and caring? Does that mean that he should be blind towards all the their wrongdoings? Why did he not question them when they wrongly told Suhana she was pregnant? Why didn't he scold them for getting a girl involved his daughters marital business? Why didn't he ask Suhana what was the reason for her coming to beckon him so late at night? Why didn't he rebuke them for doing ALL THE SHEER nonsense during the Amnesia track?? SO many situations!! No REAL father would allow so much to happen to their daughter! More than anything he needs to realise that its because of the girl's own willingness that the marriage still stands, not because of BM or the family. You wouldn't be able to make a girl like Suhana stay with a man if she didn't want to!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MadameX

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@ the big, bold pink: Oh hellz yeah!!! KK can't always assume Kashyaps are best and know what they're doing. Even he is idolizing them too much and I really hope he doesn't do that because even Suhana is seeing that and getting affected by it. People have to also learn that not everyone is perfect, everyone is flawless, and that you shouldn't blindly accept everything because of preconceived notions. It's actually quite dangerous to do that. Kashyaps can't always make the right decisions. So KK needs to be a bit more open-minded than he is and question things that don't seem right.



Agree with that totally!! A father needs to realise his priority...his child. Maybe this is the reason Suhana is overlooking him, because he has never stood up for her so she is only doing has been taught to her inadvertently. Which is actually rather sad because say whatever you like, but the marriage is successful purely because of Suhana wanted to make it work..not because of any other reasons. Love can not be forced..she liked Ishaan, fell in love with him and kept the Kashyap's and the Bajpaye's izzat! KK has yet to acknowledge that!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mjtruelegend



Hi there Tani. I have always wanted KK to stand up to the Kashyap's. So what if they are loving and caring? Does that mean that he should be blind towards all the their wrongdoings? Why did he not question them when they wrongly told Suhana she was pregnant? Why didn't he scold them for getting a girl involved his daughters marital business? Why didn't he ask Suhana what was the reason for her coming to beckon him so late at night? Why didn't he rebuke them for doing ALL THE SHEER nonsense during the Amnesia track?? SO many situations!! No REAL father would allow so much to happen to their daughter! More than anything he needs to realise that its because of the girl's own willingness that the marriage still stands, not because of BM or the family. You wouldn't be able to make a girl like Suhana stay with a man if she didn't want to!



I totally agree with that but half the time he wasnt even aware of the things happening...I mean with the Sona Mumbai track (if I remember correctly) Suhana herself was very vague with what the hell was going on so if Suhana herself doesnt want to confide in her father then how would he know whats going on

I REALLY want to see KK and also Shanti Dadi showing some agressiveness when it comes to the Bajpayee girls in the RB-Deepak-Sanju track because its about time he realizes that Kashyaps arent perfect
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mjtruelegend



Agree with that totally!! A father needs to realise his priority...his child. Maybe this is the reason Suhana is overlooking him, because he has never stood up for her so she is only doing has been taught to her inadvertently. Which is actually rather sad because say whatever you like, but the marriage is successful purely because of Suhana wanted to make it work..not because of any other reasons. Love can not be forced..she liked Ishaan, fell in love with him and kept the Kashyap's and the Bajpaye's izzat! KK has yet to acknowledge that!



True...credit should be given where it's due. About the part that Suhana is overlooking him...I want to add that maybe KK's method of raising Suhana up is also a big factor in all this. He has really spoiled her well in just about everything. What Suhana demanded, she received. And then combined with that, KK had a kind of relationship with Suhana wherein she is absolutely free to speak her mind...and pretty much be like best friends with him. In Suhana's mind, KK seems more like a great friend than a dad. And the negative effects of that is starting to be seen (or actually has been shown since the beginning). Suhana has no qualms in raising glassware in a move to show like she's about to hit her dad. To me, that is like a big NO-NO. A father is a father, not a friend. One should never raise anything against their parents like that, whether the intent is good or not. That's just plain wrong and one of the hard to digest things about Suhana's character. 😆 But I account that to KK's methods of raising Suhana and spoiling her combined with lack of sensibility on Suhana's part. So I guess it's probably not too surprising that Suhana overlooks KK. 😕
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ekta I was just about to post that...KK and BM are really spoiling Suhana and I totally agree with you KK and Suhana as beautiful as their relationship it, it is not an ideal father-daughter relationship...same with Sanjana and KK as well. Both of the girls literally walk all over him and do their own minds work, both of them are spoilt brats and KK never really did anything to that, rather than being aggressive he just complied with their wishes hence both of the girls turned out the way they did. Actually this would also make for a great track👏. My grandfather was exactly like KK I mean he never raised his voice, he was always jolly and sweet and he always fulfilled our (me, my brother and cousin) wishes no matter how ridiculous they were. My grandfather took my brother to see Lagaan 11 times in the theater😆

BM is just doing what KK is doing, spoiling Suhana by letting her do her manmaani
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Tani91

Ekta I was just about to post that...KK and BM are really spoiling Suhana and I totally agree with you KK and Suhana as beautiful as their relationship it, it is not an ideal father-daughter relationship...same with Sanjana and KK as well. Both of the girls literally walk all over him and do their own minds work, both of them are spoilt brats and KK never really did anything to that, rather than being aggressive he just complied with their wishes hence both of the girls turned out the way they did. Actually this would also make for a great track👏. My grandfather was exactly like KK I mean he never raised his voice, he was always jolly and sweet and he always fulfilled our (me, my brother and cousin) wishes no matter how ridiculous they were. My grandfather took my brother to see Lagaan 11 times in the theater😆

BM is just doing what KK is doing, spoiling Suhana by letting her do her manmaani



Exactly!! There just has to be this balance in all relationships…something like a blend of modern and traditional. But OMG, how can your brother watch Lagaan like 10 times???? 😲😲 That's so crazy!!! I mean, I liked that movie a lot too and watched it maybe 2-3 times in a span of ten years. But 11 times is really too much 😲🤣🤣….he seriously carries the same genes as you: watching too much tv/movies. 😉🤣
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: MadameX



Exactly!! There just has to be this balance in all relationships'something like a blend of modern and traditional. But OMG, how can your brother watch Lagaan like 10 times???? 😲😲 That's so crazy!!! I mean, I liked that movie a lot too and watched it maybe 2-3 times in a span of ten years. But 11 times is really too much 😲🤣🤣'.he seriously carries the same genes as you: watching too much tv/movies. 😉🤣
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this is a 4 year old we're talking about🤣🤣🤣 I swear when we were living in India my grandparents literally spoiled us to no end like really...but yeah since my bother was the youngest he got the most lad pyaar from everyone😡😆 so he was the boss literally and he made my poor grandfather watch that movie 11 times...hey that isnt nothing he watched Dhoom 24 times (that one was on DVD so that was ok😆) and now he's into hollywood and rap music to that's a whole different ball game altogether😳. There are numerous instances where my grandfather spoiled us to the core cant remember them all

my brother watches the same shows I do (the american ones) oh yeah and he's a big BBT fan😆 I have yet to watch it though. but now he's only into sports like football, soccer and basketball so he watches ESPN all day🤢
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mjtruelegend

Hello people's. Saw today's episode, and I just livid!! Totally vexed!! I know the Kashyaps have done a lot for Suhana, they loved and cared for her and they still do yes I know BUT!!! Does that mean her maternal family take a complete backseat???? No more matter how much love you get at your in-laws, no one can take the place of your parents and your MAYKA!!

How can she say "Maa ki kaami mehsoos nehi hone di"?? Of course BM filled the maternal void she had in her life but that doesn't mean that she stops talking about Vidhisha!! The invisible bond of Suhana-Vidhisha was so beautiful, they used to bring tears to my eyes but now she hardly mentions her mother!! 😭 Why so different? Why did they cease the emotional bond? What happened to that photo of hers with Vidhisha which Ishaan gifted?


Sadly, SGP is not what it used to be. Suhana was so much more sensitive when it came to her father, mother, sister and even the servants but now she talks like they are not related any more, and I hate that line..."You are no longer a BAJPAYEE...You are now a KASHYAP""...What on earth does that mean?...Yes you adapt and grow to love your new family but they CANNOT replace her own blood family can they?? As far as I am concerned, you learn to love your family equally as your maternal family.

Your in laws are an addition to your world that's all!

Not only that I have always hated KK for blindly following and agreeing to anything and everything the Kashyaps do, despite their wrongdoings!! No REAL father is like that! But now his daughter has started too!!
And the family? Sorry to say but nowadays they all appear to be artificial and I am not able to connect well to any of them!!

You may or may not agree, but please do share your thoughts. Especially to those married ladies, how do you treat your maternal family after marriage?

yes i was wondering too that how come we never see any of mamus and massis there we only seen 3 ladies related to dada and dadi 2 at weddings and one came and was very rude so she get kicked out, how come we dont see any or BM Rano and radha's maika familys i know radha dont have much to do with her real brother and his family, what about the other 2 and apart from dish's mum showing up once and rajni's mum broke her leg we never hear anything of them, oh yeah once rano's mum was sick when she went to see her, thats it, for kids both side of familys mean lot nana nani are just as important as dada and dadi, and mamus massis and all that we never see them here
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@sheemu...very nice post and very valid points...yes it broke my heart to see suhana not acknowledging her maternal parents at all ...althou she has become the loving and caring person because of the kashyaps..some due goes to her father and sister to for being so supportive...but another point...at this time she should have given some credit to ishaan too...he also supported her and encouraged her to revolt against the gauri character,... if you remember the scene it was between ishaan and suhana before badi maa came in...he doesnt get ay credit for that/

yes the invisible bond that she had with her mother too is being ignored now...maybe once kk told his wife that suhana has found her mother in her sasural and now we dont need to worry about her at all... it seems as if vidasha was looking over her till she was emotioally supported in her sasural so she is no longer needed?... i cant understand that...im nearly 60 and i lost my mom 7 years ago but still i have that empty void in my heart which i cannot come to terms with... how can suhana put her mother in the back of her mind/ no one can take a mothers place however loving or caring a sasural has become... no no ...not accepted...
althou my sasural was very dear to me but i had equal importance for my maika too... i ever had any conflict between my sasural and maika...but yes i did have a conflict between my DIL and my younger sister... who had a misunderstanding during their wedding... my DIL expected me to break my ties with my sister...but i completely refused... i told her whatever the misunderstanding its between you two... if you dont wannt to keep relation with my sister i will not force you ...but dont expect me to give up my sister even for my own son were he to ask me... sorry about that... both husband and wife sulked for some time... but later came round and in fact they too have a nice relationship with my sisters...
yes kk has not been a good father... he spoilt the daughters to such an extent as someone mentioned i think it was ekta... that suhana was ready to throw the vase at her father in her anger... thats a complete no no...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: shilu999_balani


yes kk has not been a good father... he spoilt the daughters to such an extent as someone mentioned i think it was ekta... that suhana was ready to throw the vase at her father in her anger... thats a complete no no...

yeah he did give them everything they ask for but how come sanju turn out calm one and as we seen in flash back, suhana was very demanding then tooo, and remember when she wanted to open her pressys before her birthday or something, her mother did give her a lesson in life, by giving gold chain in plain box, but KK have no talant in this metter he saw ishan, and his family and seen the "gold chain in plain package", try to give that to suhana and she hated him for that until she herself found it out, so KK has eye for good thing but he has no idea, how to explain to his doughters,

as for we saying how come she did not, mention her parents and sis, it was not about them it was tension in her inlaws she needed to defuse and KK and co were not there if they were there and she did not mention them then it was bad taste, and she dont talk about her birth mother much to others only person out side the family she talk about to was this cousin who got merried at there house, other wise she only talk about her mom to ishaan or BM

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