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Posted: 14 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Sweet_Misery

Trust me, I never root for anyone in any award shows because it simply doesn't matter. Popularity is what gets you the award, even if you don't deserve it...so rooting for anyone is pretty pointless.



But that's the irony, Sanu.....Ragini IS very popular now as Suhana.....she's literally EVERYWHERE promoting every second thing on SP or doing an appearance in every other reality show/dance show.

The popularity logic works in the case of BB since she didn't ever get as much recognition as Bharti since it aired on useless Sony and wasn't promoted as much....but SGP has been promoted a lot....SUHANA is always promoted a lot....she's literally everywhere you can see....so then how come even the popularity was not rewarded in this case?
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Posted: 14 years ago
#52
LOL Tanu I really don't get your logic even remotely so I guess I'm going to refrain from replying.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: nureat01

LOL Tanu I really don't get your logic even remotely so I guess I'm going to refrain from replying.

Thats cool yaar....may be i m not as intellectual as u are..🤗
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Well for me this awards are baseless I really dun care for them...they never give awards to deserving one..I dunno on what basis they give this awards..ma fav people never got recognization so I have gave up on this awards...but as tanu said I too like rashmi desai perfomance...and About wrong categorization..I think nowadays they just put all actor in one category just popular actor and best actor...but if there was diff category of neagative character then... Btw I heard two of ma fav actor won awards in diff category so happy for them..!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: nureat01



LOL hi Laxmi.....I'm trying to be calm...actually I don't really want to say anything much also cuz I've totally stopped watching the show and don't think I want to anymore either.

It's true like many ppl have pointed out in here that Suhana is such a unique character that it's hard to slot it into a category and the "acting" of it is hard to judge....soooooo many times I've read ppl dismissing Suhana as just a mad character and nothing else.....but honestly I've seen enough of the current crop of TV actresses to understand that had Ragini not been playing this character and the WAY she's playing it like you said, Suhana wouldn't be Suhana.....yes she's gotten a very interestingly written character but the way she brings it to life....the way she lights up the screen with her presence is not something that can be LEARNT....she just has that talent and when that talent is NEVER recognized, it's sad in my opinion.....In some of the emotional scenes toh she does SUCH a brilliant job that she makes us all cry.....that doesn't count for amazing acting?? Even if otherwise Suhana may be a loud character?

What I gather from these nominations/awards is that only high strung DRAMA is rewarded....I wonder....if Suhana's LOUDNESS was more focused on CRYING, would she have been rewarded then?? Instead she's wasting her time being "loud" in comic scenes....no one cares for that.

I'm getting the sense that Jay is being rewarded repeatedly just for playing BECHARA Ishaan.



@bold: very very well said.... I couldn't agree with you more on this one.......it really amazes me how well you have understood Suhana as a character and Ragini as an actor..... you are too good......



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Posted: 14 years ago
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I'm mad about her not winning either....and I definately dont agree with Jay winning over Devan Bhojani for sure🤔......but i have one question who are the other nominees with Ragini??

so Rashmi Desai won....I've only seen bits of Uttran and needless to say that girl can ACT...however crazy and OTT her character is....she is perfect in it and she plays her flawlessly....IMO she's better than the lead....so I feel that Rashmi got what she deserved....even last year I was mad that my fave didnt win (forgot who it was at the time...but Ratan Rajput won it and I was mad...but my uncle said that girl deserved it because she can act)

actually I think the telly awards are more fair than the bollywood awards( which is NOTHING but a popularity contest sponsored by the big guns)....at least in the telly industry talent is somewhat appreciated........(I know there have been some cases where popularity surpasses genuine talent but atleast those people who won in the past were good actors) because those academy people do have a tough job of them..IMO i think television has better actors than bollywood does....and yes these guys work their butt off for entertainment and it shows....so for me I think everyone who was won somewhat deserving in a way


Ragini deserves it..I know that..I also felt that Shruti Seth deserves an award...that girl is a brilliant actress...but see she wasnt even nominated

Ragini she truly deserves an award for playing the eccentric characters she does....BUT you guys have to know that she being a female.....nominated with females in an industry which is predominately relying on females and female viewership.....she has tough competition....no doubt about it....no matter how crazy female characters are in Indian television....those girls put forth an effort for entertainment and they can all act, they all have talent....yes some have more than others but still these girls are talented

I dunno I feel like a rambling idiot now so I'll just shut up.
Edited by Tani91 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: Tani91

I'm mad about her not winning either....and I definately dont agree with Jay winning over Devan Bhojani for sure🤔......but i have one question who are the other nominees with Ragini??

so Rashmi Desai won....I've only seen bits of Uttran and needless to say that girl can ACT...however crazy and OTT her character is....she is perfect in it and she plays her flawlessly....IMO she's better than the lead....so I feel that Rashmi got what she deserved....even last year I was mad that my fave didnt win (forgot who it was at the time...but Ratan Rajput won it and I was mad...but my uncle said that girl deserved it because she can act)

actually I think the telly awards are more fair than the bollywood awards( which is NOTHING but a popularity contest sponsored by the big guns)....at least in the telly industry talent is somewhat appreciated........(I know there have been some cases where popularity surpasses genuine talent but atleast those people who won in the past were good actors) because those academy people do have a tough job of them..IMO i think television has better actors than bollywood does....and yes these guys work their butt off for entertainment and it shows....so for me I think everyone who was won somewhat deserving in a way


Ragini deserves it..I know that..I also felt that Shruti Seth deserves an award...that girl is a brilliant actress...but see she wasnt even nominated

Ragini she truly deserves an award for playing the eccentric characters she does....BUT you guys have to know that she being a female.....nominated with females in an industry which is predominately relying on females and female viewership.....she has tough competition....no doubt about it....no matter how crazy female characters are in Indian television....those girls put forth an effort for entertainment and they can all act, they all have talent....yes some have more than others but still these girls are talented

I dunno I feel like a rambling idiot now so I'll just shut up.

@bold...interesting that you think that way, however I don't see much difference between the two, popularity has always had a bigger hand in influencing these awards.....its almost always predictable who is going to awarded, what has irked me and some of the others here is Ragini could not be awarded, despite suhaana's and SGP's popularity.
You have a point in saying that she faces tougher competition compared to her male counterparts, as television is largely dominated by female-driven shows, however I still see Ragini way ahead in terms of both as an actor and entertainer among the lot.
As laxmi and later on anu perfectly pointed out, suhaana wouldn't have been the same had it been played by someone else...she is truly the life of the show and the story is driven by the character....I loved the way anu has pointed out, "her talent is something that cannot be LEARNT" .... she can make the audience laugh and cry with the character, very few actors mange to do that
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Posted: 14 years ago
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^...lol I know both of them are very similar😆...BUT based on past experiences...I feel the ITA awards are bit more non biased compared to Bollywood awards.....one example like I said is Ratan Rajput....another one was Rajeev Khandelwal...(given that he was on BT show....but he is a fabulous actor)

I agree with you on everything else...the girl has natural talent that surpasses most everyone.......Ragini is a triple threat😉 (just saw her on KBC...the girl can not only act and dance well...but she has an amazing voice as well)

I agree that someone THIS talented needs to be appreciated.....I hope the other Telly Awards gives it to her (those are the popular based right?)...the ITA are jury based...but Indian Telly Awards are popular based...so I hope her fans voted for her (I surely did)
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Posted: 14 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: Tani91


so Rashmi Desai won....I've only seen bits of Uttran and needless to say that girl can ACT...however crazy and OTT her character is....she is perfect in it and she plays her flawlessly....IMO she's better than the lead....so I feel that Rashmi got what she deserved....even last year I was mad that my fave didnt win (forgot who it was at the time...but Ratan Rajput won it and I was mad...but my uncle said that girl deserved it because she can act)


@Tani... luv uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ❤️ RDs character is so powerful..the lead actress dwarfs in her presence..😳 M so so soooooooo happy she won...tho in the wrong category..
Another thing well said.. Ratan was marvellous in 'Agle' so another deserving winner last year..👏
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Posted: 14 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: nureat01

But that's the irony, Sanu.....Ragini IS very popular now as Suhana.....she's literally EVERYWHERE promoting every second thing on SP or doing an appearance in every other reality show/dance show.

The popularity logic works in the case of BB since she didn't ever get as much recognition as Bharti since it aired on useless Sony and wasn't promoted as much....but SGP has been promoted a lot....SUHANA is always promoted a lot....she's literally everywhere you can see....so then how come even the popularity was not rewarded in this case?

Hmm...well I agree, it is quite an ironic situation indeed. But honestly, even the nominations list here is quite shoddy. Though they are good actors, both Rashmi & Surekha ji play negative characters in their respective shows so how exactly do they qualify for the Best Actor category? 😕...It would have really pissed me off if someone like useless Akshara or Pratigya won this award instead, but still the nominations are quite retarded.
This may have nothing to do with why Ragini didn't win but i've observed something about people's general view of Suhana around in other forums. Now I really don't know why people discuss SGP in other shows forums and in random threads but they do :P. Everyone perceives Suhana as irritating, immature, obnoxious and thus intolerable....apparently a lot of people don't think that such loudness equates to good acting. I think this is mainly because people are used to seeing female leads who are quite low in terms of volume; the more sati savitri types who run around, as you said, bawling their eyes out for no good a reason.
Whats been twisting my head even more is how Jay won Best Actor? It really boggles me...😕

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