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Posted: 15 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: reguser

I have not experienced American culture as I have not lived there. I just know that Indian culture is collectivist culture and Amercian culture is Individualist culture. Now, there is nothing right/wrong in any of these cultures. It is a way of life and both have positive and negative sides. As I have not lived in US, I can not say about the 3rd category (of what Appu has mentioned) of Americans, but, I have seen many Indians (including youngsters) who fall into 3rd category. So, it is not right to say that Indians are most selfish and insensitive. Actually, I seriously dont think selfishness and insensitive nature can be tagged to any country/culture. It depends on one's own individuality, up-bringing and enviornment. According to me, barriers like country/culture/language doesnt contribute much to a person's characters.
Taking care of the family is definately not an excuse to keep us away from social service. But, being brought up in a collectivist culture, a family according to me consists of many people. Ofcourse, it mainly includes children, husband, parents, in-laws but along with them there are many close relatives of whom some are rich and some are really in need. I am sure, it is not just the case with me, but with many others. So, for a person who is brought up in a collectivist culture, even if he/she wants to help those in needy, he doesnt have to go outside the family (extended family) because there are many present in the family itself. We dont have to go out in search of needy, when we can see them near us. Where as, this may not be the case in an individualistic culture. A person from an individualist culture doesnt have an extended family, so hence the service which he/she renders will be for an outside society. I personally feel, both are equally noble. At the same time, there are many Indians who go beyond this extended family and into service. They have left their highly-paid jobs and are into service. I myself have seen so many of them.
Charity definately begins @ home and I agree that it shouldnt stop there. And our workload and family ties shouldnt be an obstacle for the social service. But as I have mentioned already in the earlier posts, it may not be possible to fulfill such desires completely at this stage of life. As you only highlighted, it is a step by step process.
@Red - These fall into level 1, there is nothing much to discuss about them until unless they rise from that level.



@ red - That is the biggest chunk. Sure, there are Indians who do charity... but look at the population... US-310 million Vs. India-1.49 billion. So what we need to compare and accept is the ratio of people that indulge in social service. Yes, every American spends certain amount of time and money towards charity. I see this quality even among the homeless people. Let me share an incidence with you.

It was a cold winter morning around 11:30 am. when I was doing my routine of feeding homeless people, an old feeble homeless guy came up to me and asked if would be generous to afford food for 4 more people. I made four boxes with water, crackers and a fruit to go and handed him the bag. That was little heavy for him to handle but adamant that he would somehow carry it. When I offered his share, he told me he was too feeble to carry anymore. So out of curiosity, I asked him why he was helping somebody who is not there and was giving up his share? He replied there was a mother with 3 little kids who did not have proper warm clothes to walk 5 blocks. So they are all seated by a vent that would keep them warm. Tears rolled off my cheeks hearing the elderly man. I offered to drive him to deliver the food to the woman and her children. Such is the American culture. No body lets another person go on starvation.

I love Gandhi's quote "There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed. "

I must again say Indians are insensitive people. The reason why I say that is, I see that difference when I visit India. extravagant weddings, attires, living etc. And the same people are reluctant to give extra Rs.200 to their servant.

People have time to watch TV all day but do not have time to indulge in social service to improve the schools, libraries, teaching less fortunate children. It is the society that one lives in nurtures ones qualities directly or indirectly.

Free se*, independence, and no family values have become a synonym of Americans for the rest of the World which is so untrue.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: reguser

Though I dont know you much, I know tumhe kahan mazaa atha hai.....😆
Have experienced your mazaa many times 😡😆
See I am doing self-less service to you. Made ur SELF happy by giving you mazaa 😆



@ red - mazaak math karo... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ blue - woh tho hai...
🤣🤣 and the expressions you gave are ekdum sahi hai...

pehle tumhe gusaa aatha hai mujh par, phir hasi....
🤣🤣🤣
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Posted: 15 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: vishmewell



@ red - That is the biggest chunk. Sure, there are Indians who do charity... but look at the population... US-310 million Vs. India-1.49 billion. So what we need to compare and accept is the ratio of people that indulge in social service. Yes, every American spends certain amount of time and money towards charity. I see this quality even among the homeless people. Let me share an incidence with you.

It was a cold winter morning around 11:30 am. when I was doing my routine of feeding homeless people, an old feeble homeless guy came up to me and asked if would be generous to afford food for 4 more people. I made four boxes with water, crackers and a fruit to go and handed him the bag. That was little heavy for him to handle but adamant that he would somehow carry it. When I offered his share, he told me he was too feeble to carry anymore. So out of curiosity, I asked him why he was helping somebody who is not there and was giving up his share? He replied there was a mother with 3 little kids who did not have proper warm clothes to walk 5 blocks. So they are all seated by a vent that would keep them warm. Tears rolled off my cheeks hearing the elderly man. I offered to drive him to deliver the food to the woman and her children. Such is the American culture. No body lets another person go on starvation.

I love Gandhi's quote "There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed. "

I must again say Indians are insensitive people. The reason why I say that is, I see that difference when I visit India. extravagant weddings, attires, living etc. And the same people are reluctant to give extra Rs.200 to their servant.

People have time to watch TV all day but do not have time to indulge in social service to improve the schools, libraries, teaching less fortunate children. It is the society that one lives in nurtures ones qualities directly or indirectly.

Free se*, independence, and no family values have become a synonym of Americans for the rest of the World which is so untrue.

It is nice to know about American culture.
Though I dont think like @ red, I know there are many who think like this.
@blue - Even I agree that this is the biggest problem in many Indians. Spending too much for marriage, ornaments and dresses but when it comes to giving servants, they are too stingy. Again, this is not the case with all. It is nice to see many youngsters are changing these days. May be because of the exposure that they get.
Anyways, Laxmi's roti has turned into selfless love, charity (whether it begins @home first or outside), social service and American & Indian culture. When she comes back she will be tired of pressing LIKE button to each post.😆
Edited by reguser - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: reguser



Such is the American culture. No body lets another person go on starvation.


I love Gandhi's quote "There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed. "

I must again say Indians are insensitive people. The reason why I say that is, I see that difference when I visit India. extravagant weddings, attires, living etc. And the same people are reluctant to give extra Rs.200 to their servant.

People have time to watch TV all day but do not have time to indulge in social service to improve the schools, libraries, teaching less fortunate children. It is the society that one lives in nurtures ones qualities directly or indirectly.

Free se*, independence, and no family values have become a synonym of Americans for the rest of the World which is so untrue.

It is nice to know about American culture.
Though I dont think like @ red, I know there are many who think like this.
@blue - Even I agree that this is the biggest problem in many Indians. Spending too much for marriage, ornaments and dresses but when it comes to giving servants, they are too stingy. Again, this is not the case with all. It is nice to see many youngsters are changing these days. May be because of the exposure that they get.
Anyways, Laxmi's roti has turned into selfless love, charity (whether it begins @home first or outside), social service and American & Indian culture. When she comes back she will be tired of pressing LIKE button to each post.😆


Social service and Charity to unknown people gives one a different perspective in life. It humbles you, instead of sympathy, you develop empathy and learn to love and respect every human being no matter what. It's a feeling to be experienced.

No. She will be very happy to press the Like button very diplomatically 😆😆😆. That way she doesn't have to indulge in taking sides... 🤣

Mere aur Appu ke alawa who else can call a spade a spade... 🤣🤣🤣 JK... light lelo yaar... 🤣🤣🤣
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Posted: 15 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: *dewdrop~pearl*

Arre yaar, what heavy duty lectures have I written, am sure I would have 'bhagaod' many members from this post 😆!
Poor Laxmi, she has stopped commenting. I think she got bored reading our long lectures . Am sure Laxmi would have disowned this topic long back, aise hi humein happy rakhne ke liye kabhi kabaar aake 'like' button click karke chali jaathi hogi 😆.
Yeh topic 'roti' se shuru hoke 'karma' thak pohunch gayi. Atleast 'kurma' hote tho roti ke saat kuch tho connection hota 🤣!

@red bold....
Arrey no jaan... i landed up in this thread now only as i saw it is still alive.....😲..... hats off to Maslow for the same..... he must be proud of his students who r using it in SGP forum sincerely.....🤣.... baba i am not this much intellectual..... i am enjoying reading all this and pressing the like key..... u are all superb yaar..... chalo.... mujhe bhi sab gyaan mil raha hai..... mai bhi gyaani kehlavoongi...... 😳\
@ bold blue.....
Aap log mere baare mein itna ghalat sochthe ho.... main itna enjoy karke read kar rahi hoon.......😭...😭...😭...😭
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Posted: 15 years ago
#86


Laxmi is snoring big time now😆..let her get up, then she will start her jalwa...our Bidaai fan club is also desperately waiting for the presidential "tippuni"...Being the VP, i came here to look for our president...😆
Bani u too....??? Haila.... main snore nahin karthi...😭.. mere image ka kuch toh khayal rakho yaar.... 😭.. Presi ko sabne badnaam kar rakha hai..... PM(appu) ne toh badnaam kar hi diya.... aage dekhthi hoon.... ki opposition leader(pallavi) ne bhi kuch aisey farmaaya hai ki nahi......😭
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Posted: 15 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: laxmi_s

@red bold....
Arrey no jaan... i landed up in this thread now only as i saw it is still alive.....😲..... hats off to Maslow for the same..... he must be proud of his students who r using it in SGP forum sincerely.....🤣.... baba i am not this much intellectual..... i am enjoying reading all this and pressing the like key..... u are all superb yaar..... chalo.... mujhe bhi sab gyaan mil raha hai..... mai bhi gyaani kehlavoongi...... 😳\
@ bold blue.....
Aap log mere baare mein itna ghalat sochthe ho.... main itna enjoy karke read kar rahi hoon.......😭...😭...😭...😭

Nahi yaar Laxmi, I dont think like that. Read what I have written about you.....
I have written that Laxmi's LIKE buttons show how sweet she is. She doesnt want to hurt anyone.
I know u want to maintain peace in the forum. But kya karen ham aadat se majboor hein....
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Posted: 15 years ago
#88
@vishmewell
No. She will be very happy to press the Like button very diplomatically 😆😆😆. That way she doesn't have to indulge in taking sides... 🤣
😲.....😲.....😲......I was shocked.......😭...😭...😭... then i was hurt..... dhi.... u told me diplomatic.....????😭....😭....😭..... U know i always sincerely sit back and read each and every post of yours , pallavi's, appu's and Bani's discussion as i love them immensely as each of u bring out a beautiful shade of your thoughts in your discussion.... sometimes it so happens that i partially agree with yours , partially with Pallavi's or partially with Bani's..... but at the end of the day i just love them , i enjoy reading them when the discussions are so friendly and light..... but...😭...😭...😭... u said i diplomatically press the like key?????😲...😲...😲
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Posted: 15 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: reguser

Nahi yaar Laxmi, I dont think like that. Read what I have written about you.....
I have written that Laxmi's LIKE buttons show how sweet she is. She doesnt want to hurt anyone.
I know u want to maintain peace in the forum. But kya karen ham aadat se majboor hein....

Arrey no yaar Pallavi...😛..i read your views about me..... thankx a lot jaan..... u understood me really well....😉..... i referenced that to our sweet appu.... another posting i have done to our sweet vish also as these 2 are doing my badnaami here...😭.. they don't know i am besharam only in bidaai forum.... in SGP... i am supposed to be decent....(i don't know for how long....)🤣
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Posted: 15 years ago
#90


Laxmi is snoring big time now😆..let her get up, then she will start her jalwa...our Bidaai fan club is also desperately waiting for the presidential "tippuni"...Being the VP, i came here to look for our president...😆
Bani u too....??? Haila.... main snore nahin karthi...😭.. mere image ka kuch toh khayal rakho yaar.... 😭.. Presi ko sabne badnaam kar rakha hai..... PM(appu) ne toh badnaam kar hi diya.... aage dekhthi hoon.... ki opposition leader(pallavi) ne bhi kuch aisey farmaaya hai ki nahi......😭
Dekha....? Meine tumare bare mein itna sweet sweet words likha hein 😃
aakir mein hi nikli teri wafadar opposition leader 😆

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