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smrth

@smrth

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#81

Ok friends, Arshi and Shantiji in perticular, please indulge some sparring today and forgive me this provoke. (Blame 'Kumud' for getting me instigated 😛)

Before I forget. I abhor Pramad and his continued track, his loathsome presence, indicting their pure love. Morally it's despicable and equally unethical as Kusum. Today, I detested his loathsome act even stronger than Kusum's.🤢🤢

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pasumarthisa

@pasumarthisa

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#82

Originally posted by: smrth
Ok friends, Arshi and Shantiji in perticular, please indulge some sparring today and forgive me this provoke. (Blame 'Kumud' for getting me instigated 😛)

Before I forget. I abhor Pramad and his continued track, his loathsome presence, indicting their pure love. Morally it's despicable and equally unethical as Kusum. Today, I detested his loathsome act even stronger than Kusum's.🤢🤢

Smrth ji,

We love to argue. There is no provocation. Please don't treat it that way. And we also agree on the big picture.

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hotdogg

@hotdogg

Navigator

Posted: 11 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa
Why is Saras always pitted against kumud. Does it have to be like that. Same with Kumud. They are individuals first. I have huge empathy for kumud. But on a case by case basis we tend to be objective. When Saras is wrong he does get flak.
They r individuals with flaws like everyone else. More so kumud. Who asks saras to treat him as a strong individual. I respect that a lot. But it's Saras who submerges his identity for her.

shanthi

..does he submerge his identity? I don't think so...he's still saras...in whatever he does..
...does he defer to her wishes?...sometimes yes and most times no...many times he deferred is due to his own principles and not so much due to her wish...

I am hoping he will not defer to her wishes for hooking up with kusum too..

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smrth

@smrth

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#84

Originally posted by: pasumarthisa

Smrth ji,

We love to argue. There is no provocation. Please don't treat it that way. And we also agree on the big picture.

Agree completely. SAMUD Zindabaad however irksome they may get. Team Nandy Zindabaad- Arshi's thread's best gain for me...😃

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hotdogg

@hotdogg

Navigator

Posted: 11 years ago

#85

Originally posted by: smrth

Agree completely. SAMUD Zindabaad however irksome they may get. Team Nandy Zindabaad- Arshi's thread's best gain for me...😃

Amen!

Ok folks ...logging off...its pretty late night and have gotta go to work tomo..
Cya later.

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pasumarthisa

@pasumarthisa

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#86

Originally posted by: hotdogg

shanthi

..does he submerge his identity? I don't think so...he's still saras...in whatever he does..
...does he defer to her wishes?...sometimes yes and most times no...many times he deferred is due to his own principles and not so much due to her wish...

I am hoping he will not defer to her wishes for hooking up with kusum too..

He says often that his identity is incomplete without kumud and recently said he became saras only after she revealed him to Pramad. I like him for that a lot. But the identity thing is used loosely these days and I feel it's deeper n more complex.

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KK84

@KK84

Rocker

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Posted: 11 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: Arshics

Well she said something to the effect that it was all his fault, if he hadn't stood her up that day, none of this would have happened.

His galti that day was causing all this and even Kumud was in trouble now because what he had done that day.

Its become a pattern with her now to blame him for everything .

I think the blame would be more out of annoyance. Annoyed at the fact that yes had he not ditched her then kusum wudve never thought to fall for saras. Point hai.

Now the gadhi thinks that she is destined to be with saras.

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pasumarthisa

@pasumarthisa

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#88

Originally posted by: KK84

I think the blame would be more out of annoyance. Annoyed at the fact that yes had he not ditched her then kusum wudve never thought to fall for saras. Point hai.

Now the gadhi thinks that she is destined to be with saras.

That's what she thinks. But Saras thinks she is saying that if he married kumud, then kusum would not have fallen for danny. Communication gap.

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pasumarthisa

@pasumarthisa

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#89

After all that arguing, I saw the episode. Well, no one was right in that convo. Saras was suffering from foot in the mouth disease. Answering way too much for what he was asked. Bhugtega baad mein. And kumud, well finally be asks how is he responsible for kusum's situation. And she stays silent... wah.

Now coming to Pramad. His expression when saras says why don't you give divorce to kumud was there to see. He says he can't let go of kumud till he does prayaschit. Wah. Letting her go is not prayaschit? He wants to shackle her. He is the best kept secret again. Kusum might come into senses next week but he?

Pramad n kalika collaborated to buy that saree. Now they are as if not on one side. But both know each other's intentions. Especially kalika does. And pramad knows kusum's truth. And so he does what he is best at these days when she tells about kusum. That is coughing.

Pramad is a bigger museebat than what seems at this moment. He is pretending to be ready to wait for kumud n ready to give property. Destiny's favorite child. And like he says, no one can shackle him. Including the law.

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tryforceful

@tryforceful

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#90

Originally posted by: hotdogg

smrth-
I am with you on kumud's side...she was desperately searching for affirmation from saras...which did not come for whatever reason...so her reaction though coming out as anger was actually a plaintive wail of grief...of fear...of anger...of a plea...CHOOSE ME...saras response was the personification of her deepest fear ..what if he does not choose me?...we may say that's irrational considering their history...but then kumud never had encountered competition earlier...so it was a mixture of possessiveness for her man, fear of losing him, seeking a signal that all is well in their world...and saras gave the wrong answer!

when she said tumne kusum ka yeh haal kiya...she was implicitly saying...why are you so good?...look you made my sis fall in love with you...and screwed my life!

Hg ji, yes, I felt that too (JW was awesome in bringing life to that 'longing' for the magic word 'Kumud')

I really loved the slap and the running to calm herself and reason out why Kusum said what she'd said. Her doofus sister is famous for making some insensitive remarks at crucial junctures like the unforgivable "Saras would never come back from Dubai, you'll have to marry someone". All the thing bombarded Kumud along with the solid scribbled evidence in paper. A rude betrayal from a blood relation deterring her will was understandable. I also felt she was going to in fact share about Kusum's impropriety had he not finished her sentence for her "...is my zimmedari"There started her agitation and the shielded interrogation and the final outburst. The subconscious seeking assurance that he'd choose her over anyone and not just Kusum, whatever the circumstances might be.

I really hope this conversation was just to show the depth of damage inflicted on Kumud, rather than a driving force to pressurize Saras to choose Kusum. (But Kumud, your man is a Byronic hero, he'd never leave you for anyone. Had you calmed down, you would have realized!)

@Bold :Amazing!

Edited by tryforceful - 11 years ago

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