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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: smrth

Can not believe it! Here he is...openly telling her, 'I would have supported kusum if it were between you two. I saw her before you...blah...and concluding 'I feel responsible for her'...that responsible dialogue triggers a valid reminder of root cause and yet it is Kumud at fault? If Kumud would have uttered one tenth of such 'blaspheme', she would have been hauled over the coal...* shaking head* ...first time Arshi...let us agree to disagree.


I saw her before u is a terrible line. He definitely deserves flak for that. But the rest though he meant no ill will.

He rescued kusum from kidnappers single handedly. He thinks of her with a fraternal affection. Couple of weeks back he put a hand on her shoulder in front of danny and said to her that she deserves every happiness. What He said today is in line with that. He feels responsible because she is danny's love interest. Spoilers showed danny sends him to kusum's room to stop to convince her.

Just because kumud is consumed with a lot of mess from her sister and is in turmoil, we can't blame saras. He knows nothing. If you see the past month's episodes it will be clear what he means.

he did say too much too soon. And kumud will eat him for this later. But he has the answers.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: smrth

Can not believe it! Here he is...openly telling her, 'I would have supported kusum if it were between you two. I saw her before you...blah...and concluding 'I feel responsible for her'...that responsible dialogue triggers a valid reminder of root cause and yet it is Kumud at fault? If Kumud would have uttered one tenth of such 'blaspheme', she would have been hauled over the coal...* shaking head* ...first time Arshi...let us agree to disagree.


Smrth, the man did not know the context. He answered in all innocence , he is protective of kusum like a sister , and now like a girl who is in love with his brother supposedly but is not strong enough to come out with it

Ask a stupid vague question, you will get a misleading answer

His answer was in right in a different context, and if she holds him to this answer in the context of who will he choose to marry between the two of them then I am sorry, she is being very unfair to him.

Let her ask him directly who will he choose to spend his life with kusum or Kumud - and that will be his true feelings in this matter .
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Arshics


Smrth, the man did not know the context. He answered in all innocence , he is protective of kusum like a sister , and now like a girl who is in love with his brother supposedly but is not strong enough to come out with it

Ask a stupid vague question, you will get a misleading answer

His answer was in right in a different context, and if she holds him to this answer in the context of who will he choose to marry between the two of them then I am sorry, she is being very unfair to him.

Let her ask him directly who will he choose to spend his life with kusum or Kumud - and that will be his true feelings in this matter .


When kumud is in shock then she could have asked him directly. More than anyone else, he supported her, understood her n continues to do so.

Question ko twist kar ke poocho aur jawab ji's context se diya gaya hai wo jaan kar bhi wah samjha jo wo samjhna chahti hai. That is still fine. Poor girl she is shocked. But blame him for this?

Kis Kis ke liye blame karegi usse.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Arshics


She did and very vehemently,

She suddenly turned on him and blamed him for all this mess, saying if he hadn't stood her up that day then all this wouldn't have happened and he was to be blamed for kusums problem too .

Till then I was actually feeling bad for Kumud, that's when I flipped and realized that actually kusum and Kumud are alike, in so many ways


Kumud is trying to do some sort of a half baked root cause analysis here. If we follow her line of reasoning, then the root of the problem goes way back to the time that she begot a sister.
Yet she chooses to blame Saras. Perhaps because of the degree of apnapan she feels with Saras. Or is it because she thinks Saras will take anything thrown at him because of his guilt? Why is she exploiting his guilt?
With each passing day I feel exasperated with Kumud.
Kusum on the other hand is something else. I still cannot place her zid re: Saras in the context of her old avatar where she was seen as a loving sister. Her new avatar is simply morbid!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: smrth

Can not believe it! Here he is...openly telling her, 'I would have supported kusum if it were between you two. I saw her before you...blah...and concluding 'I feel responsible for her'...that responsibility dialogue triggers a valid reminder of root irresponsibility and yet it is Kumud at fault? If Kumud would have uttered one tenth of such 'blaspheme', she would have been hauled over the coal...* shaking head* ...first time Arshi...let us agree to disagree.


He meant ''she is masoom u even duped her to feign like u when i came to see u''...i feel responsible...as in shes my kid bros love...c'mon kumuds record has not been so good either she always MU this time it was done knowingly
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pasumarthisa


I saw her before u is a terrible line. He definitely deserves flak for that. But the rest though he meant no ill will.

He rescued kusum from kidnappers single handedly. He thinks of her with a fraternal affection. Couple of weeks back he put a hand on her shoulder in front of danny and said to her that she deserves every happiness. What He said today is in line with that. He feels responsible because she is danny's love interest. Spoilers showed danny sends him to kusum's room to stop to convince her.

Just because kumud is consumed with a lot of mess from her sister and is in turmoil, we can't blame saras. He knows nothing.



Of course Shantiji, he is meaning well ( i am not blaming him here). But so is Kumud many of the time and yet...but I think, I won't be able to understand comparative imbalance for these two. Just remember the severest critiques we are meting out to Kumud each time, while quickly explaining
Saras's away with vulnerability. Today, she was at her most vulnerable shock, (an aside JW executed just superbly) and yet...anyway please ignore...let us agree to disagree on this.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: smrth


Of course Shantiji, he is meaning well ( i am not blaming him here). But so is Kumud many of the time and yet...but I think, I won't be able to understand comparative imbalance for these two. Just remember the severest critiques we are meting out to Kumud each time, while quickly explaining
Saras's away with vulnerability. Today, she was at her most vulnerable shock, (an aside JW executed just superbly) and yet...anyway please ignore...let us agree to disagree on this.


I agree. Kumud is in a dilemma. I can understand. That's why she is thinking about the worst. I don't have any issues with this convo.

Kumud blaming everything on Saras after so many life changing events is what is puzzling. Rca with R being Saras's refusing the wedding.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: Arshics


Well she said something to the effect that it was all his fault, if he hadn't stood her up that day, none of this would have happened.

His galti that day was causing all this and even Kumud was in trouble now because what he had done that day.

Its become a pattern with her now to blame him for everything .



Welcome Ye all to the Twilight Zone!

and Oh Boy...we are going to crash and burn now...

All Kumud had to do was grab Saras by his scruff and say Let's Get Out of Here!

Did not like:
- Kumud's pretty tame reaction to Kusum...just a teeny -weeny slap and then running away...was expecting a spitfire reaction and a cat-fight..
- Kalika & Pramad seeming to close ranks...
- Kumud giving all sorts of philosophical reasons for kusum's behavior...Would a woman in love really really do this pontification?...
- Kumud - Saras Convo...
- Precap

And Yet:
Regarding the Saras - Kumud convo...felt that was the best piece of today's epi...

Here was a confused woman (Kumud) trying to make some sense of the boom which has been lowered over her...and really looking for some affirmation...In walks her man (Saras)...

Now obviously she's being all womanly and therefore never speaking clearly what's on her mind..😛...so she starts Questioning in Riddles (Crash Alert #1)...Our Dikra is oblivious to the Code Orange now flashing loud and clear...Then she asks him to choose between Kumud & Kusum (Crash Alert#2)...Our Dikra is still oblivious to the Loud Sirens Clanging & Red Lights Flashing all Around (Announcements being made...Code Red..Code Red...)...So our Dikra gives a rational, logical and well intentioned response... So obviously he had it coming...all the dose from Kumud...the response from Kumud...she did not get the affirmation she was expecting (notice her expectant expressions) and then being all womanly out came the laundry list of all the times our dikra had made a mistake,.,,,which was only once!.. To Kya Hua!!

So I found it a little cute...very wife & hubby like...

And like Aamir Khan from Andaz Apna Apna..."Kaccha Khiladi Hai"...😉... With some more dose will slowly learn to recognize the Code Alerts and deliver appropriate response...

However the rest is all Blah...

Smrth / Arshi-
I have taken to reading spoilers to get a sense of where we are at...

Read some spoilers and felt they are going to desecrate MZZB too...😡...with Saras as Adil and Kusum as Saba on the day of Saba & Arfeen's wedding...with Kumud as Arfeen...

Dear God in Heaven...😭


Edited by hotdogg - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59
i'm loving guniyal, the lashing that she gives kusum and calls her on her selfishness
and i liked that kumud's first instinct was to slap kusum and feel betrayed by her

i'm loving the episode, at least have kumud feel how saras is feeling with pramad hanging around her. now she has to have kusum hanging around saras


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: hotdogg



Welcome Ye all to the Twilight Zone!

and Oh Boy...we are going to crash and burn now...

All Kumud had to do was grab Saras by his scruff and say Let's Get Out of Here!

Did not like:
- Kumud's pretty tame reaction to Kusum...just a teeny -weeny slap and then running away...was expecting a spitfire reaction and a cat-fight..
- Kalika & Pramad seeming to close ranks...
- Kumud giving all sorts of philosophical reasons for kusum's behavior...Would a woman in love really really do this pontification?...
- Kumud - Saras Convo...
- Precap

And Yet:
Regarding the Saras - Kumud convo...felt that was the best piece of today's epi...

Here was a confused woman (Kumud) trying to make some sense of the boom which has been lowered over her...and really looking for some affirmation...In walks her man (Saras)...

Now obviously she's being all womanly and therefore never speaking clearly what's on her mind..😛...so she starts Questioning in Riddles (Crash Alert #1)...Our Dikra is oblivious to the Code Orange now flashing loud and clear...Then she asks him to choose between Kumud & Kusum (Crash Alert#2)...Our Dikra is still oblivious to the Loud Sirens Clanging & Red Lights Flashing all Around (Announcements being made...Code Red..Code Red...)...So our Dikra gives a rational, logical and well intentioned response... So obviously he had it coming...all the dose from Kumud...the response from Kumud...she did not get the affirmation she was expecting (notice her expectant expressions) and then being all womanly out came the laundry list of all the times our dikra had made a mistake,.,,,

So I found it a little cute...very wife & hubby like...

And like Aamir Khan from Andaz Apna Apna..."Kaccha Khiladi Hai"...😉... With some more dose will slowly learn to recognize the Code Alerts and deliver appropriate response...

However the rest is all Blah...

Smrth / Arshi-
I have taken to reading spoilers to get a sense of where we are at...

Read some spoilers and felt they are going to desecrate MZZB too...😡...with Saras as Adil and Kusum as Saba on the day of Saba & Arfeen's wedding...with Kumud as Arfeen...

Dear God in Heaven...😭



Great take.

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