Crisp Bytes SC - 26th July 13 - Page 8

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Smrth bhai... I went back and viewed epi again. Unless Google is leading me astray, this concerns spiritual meditation right? Extremely intriguing, yes... If you think in the context of now... With the red's but slapping at the sides and the black dominating the centre... But most of all, props to you for discerning that "discord" in the middle of the most overwhelming episodes, EVER 👏 I don't think the expectation was that viewers may get it... Not while they were being assailed by all else, but... Makes me think... The "marriage", happening not between K and a faceless but between Saras and Kumud, the rituals mirrored, so was that shloka a disjoint? Or was it perfectly in harmony... Referring to Saras and his spiritual core, only? 🤔... You deserve the laugh, bhai and also a 👏 This is a testament to you keeping your head, while we all were losing ours in the moment ⭐️

Edit: Link to your post in Vaishali's thread, if possible please? Would love to read 😳

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Since I am severely lacking in this department, can this please be explained in layman's terms?

The shloka, it's meaning and it's connect here - explain please

arshi / Ivy (Thx smrth for that one 👏)..

the translation I have been able to dig up:
"May I bow down to that Supreme Being whom Brahma, Varuna, Indra, Rudra and the Maruts praise with divine hymns; whom the Sama-chanters methodically sing about throughout the Vedas and Upanishads; whom the yogis see with their mind absorbed in 'That' through meditations; and whose end or beginning neither the hosts of gods nor demi-gods know."

Interpretation of the sloka ('copied' 😉) >>>

1) Even though Sanatan Dharma ultimately leads to one Supreme Being, most of us can't visualize God in the beginning without our sense organs. The concept of all gods and demi-gods is a mere attempt to give a form to that Supreme Being.

2) There is nothing but one existence, eternally unchanging, immovable, imperishable, and indescribable by either by the human mind.

3) Therefore, let us seek unity in diversity and diversity in unity. A tree is nothing but a conglomeration of various parts such as the trunk, branches, leaves, flowers, fruits, etc. The tree doesn't not have an identity without them, and without the togetherness of the tree the same components have no value.

my two cents...while we wait for smrth to respond...

the sloka plays in the background when
- her marriage is happening and saras is getting beat up
- it stops when there is red sindoor on her head and blood on saras head.

I guess what smrth means was that the sloka was put in to convey that
- both have not understood the enormity of the mess they are getting into. The parts are too fragmented. They will only be able to understand it when they speak to each other / communicate to each other.

- there is but one existence and which is their love - eternal, immovable, impersihable and indescribable.

- they have no identity without each other.

- while the sloka is a hymn to goad people to work towards finding the unity of the Divine Being - in this context they have work cut out for each one to strive towards finding the unity of their union.

- The red color binds them both - a reminder of the point where each diverged from their path towards a union. It is a reminder and an omen. They have to surrender to it first before they can start their search again.

Disclaimer:
This is my amateur attempt...I could be totally off the mark...

smrth - Over to you. Please release us from this confusion.

Hgg...

Originally posted by: hotdogg

arshi / Ivy (Thx smrth for that one 👏)..

the translation I have been able to dig up:
"May I bow down to that Supreme Being whom Brahma, Varuna, Indra, Rudra and the Maruts praise with divine hymns; whom the Sama-chanters methodically sing about throughout the Vedas and Upanishads; whom the yogis see with their mind absorbed in 'That' through meditations; and whose end or beginning neither the hosts of gods nor demi-gods know."

Interpretation of the sloka ('copied' 😉) >>>

1) Even though Sanatan Dharma ultimately leads to one Supreme Being, most of us can't visualize God in the beginning without our sense organs. The concept of all gods and demi-gods is a mere attempt to give a form to that Supreme Being.

2) There is nothing but one existence, eternally unchanging, immovable, imperishable, and indescribable by either by the human mind.

3) Therefore, let us seek unity in diversity and diversity in unity. A tree is nothing but a conglomeration of various parts such as the trunk, branches, leaves, flowers, fruits, etc. The tree doesn't not have an identity without them, and without the togetherness of the tree the same components have no value.

my two cents...while we wait for smrth to respond...

the sloka plays in the background when
- her marriage is happening and saras is getting beat up
- it stops when there is red sindoor on her head and blood on saras head.

I guess what smrth means was that the sloka was put in to convey that
- both have not understood the enormity of the mess they are getting into. The parts are too fragmented. They will only be able to understand it when they speak to each other / communicate to each other.

- there is but one existence and which is their love - eternal, immovable, impersihable and indescribable.

- they have no identity without each other.

- while the sloka is a hymn to goad people to work towards finding the unity of the Divine Being - in this context they have work cut out for each one to strive towards finding the unity of their union.

- The red color binds them both - a reminder of the point where each diverged from their path towards a union. It is a reminder and an omen. They have to surrender to it first before they can start their search again.

Disclaimer:
This is my amateur attempt...I could be totally off the mark...

smrth - Over to you. Please release us from this confusion.

Reading such beautiful interpretations n analysis I can't stop myself from jumping on this bandwagon! Hope I am allowed to!

I haven't contributed to crisp bytes before so short intro-I am Kat..Gautam Ki deewani 😉

Ok on to the episode:

I couldn't see beyond Saras's pain n repentance. Like he rightly so said in his speech, he did try..he came but he failed in the hands of fate.

Kumud is so hurt that she can't even hear the words that come our from Saras's mouth...direct or indirectly. How did she miss the fact that he came for her...he didnt betray her.

She claims her heart isn't big enough but when it came to marrying someone else, her heart was big enough to think another person may enter it.(at the time she didnt know what Pramaad was like!)

Hate is a very strong feeling n it does get you to stop thinking clearly n here Kumud is victim towards this supposed hatred she feels due to Saras's 'betrayal'

It's funny but I see it as how she has betrayed saras. Yes he rejected her..but from the phone conversation anyone sane would want to find out more...if a guy rejects you, a person who loves you more than life(and shabd joh bhi ho, ehsaas toh nahi mit tah) how did she even believe that he suddenly doesn't love her...she claimed they were soulmates then she failed to understand him
Completely.

Achaa ehsaas ko choro, what about using her brain n sense to find out why he refused to marry her n how does that justify marrying someone in haste.

Yes she cudnt tolerate her parents badnaami n all but I thought they shared a deeper relation than that. She was everything to her father then why not face samaaj ke Taaney n defend her baapu like that!

Anyway ab no point me banging my head on a wall as yeh shaadi toh had to happen!

So for me dono ke saath bewafaai hui hai.

Kumud is being stubborn n this is going to cost her big time because once he leaves she is bound to find out the reasons as to why he felt he cudnt marry her and what happened exactly and yet again they will be victims of fate where it will be too late.

She does have every right to be angry at him n more so now as she is married so she is even more helpless. She has boundaries and 'responsibilities'

Budhidhan's reasonings were totally uncalled for and an educated person like kumud should've atleast been shocked at the revelation. On one hand budhidhan says daughter in laws are equally treated n other hand he has changed his thinking to be backward that's it's a wife's duty to mould a husband.

Saras...my heart felt like a hundred daggers had pierced it. One can't deny that he is hurting. His forgiveness, his thakaan...felt like he has given up hope of living,his urge to be there for kumud...Gautam I want to worship you for such soulful acting! Your expressions are so apt.

The blood on Kumud's forehead sure is a signal...to me it symbolises the pain she goes thru for not forgiving Saras all the same...his wounds won't heal until she forgives him, her wounds can't heal bcos she is unable to forgive him.

Another symbol is that this sindoor that Pramaad has put on her head...that can't last. No matter what she does, it keeps getting wiped off. First when Pramaad rubbed it off her n now this...cos she isn't meant for him.

Overall- I couldn't see beyond Saras's pain. I can't even if I want to. I just can't understand Kumud's stance because those eyes speak volumes.

Kat.xxx

P.S. Gautam is totally nailing it with his intense performance! Hats off!

P.P.S. budhidhan's acting was good when he saw Pramaad lying there drunk! Any father would be just as angry!

Show stealers!! - besides Gautam has to be the actor who is playing Budhidhan!

Originally posted by: hotdogg

arshi / Ivy (Thx smrth for that one 👏)..

the translation I have been able to dig up:
"May I bow down to that Supreme Being whom Brahma, Varuna, Indra, Rudra and the Maruts praise with divine hymns; whom the Sama-chanters methodically sing about throughout the Vedas and Upanishads; whom the yogis see with their mind absorbed in 'That' through meditations; and whose end or beginning neither the hosts of gods nor demi-gods know."

Interpretation of the sloka ('copied' 😉) >>>

1) Even though Sanatan Dharma ultimately leads to one Supreme Being, most of us can't visualize God in the beginning without our sense organs. The concept of all gods and demi-gods is a mere attempt to give a form to that Supreme Being.

2) There is nothing but one existence, eternally unchanging, immovable, imperishable, and indescribable by either by the human mind.

3) Therefore, let us seek unity in diversity and diversity in unity. A tree is nothing but a conglomeration of various parts such as the trunk, branches, leaves, flowers, fruits, etc. The tree doesn't not have an identity without them, and without the togetherness of the tree the same components have no value.

my two cents...while we wait for smrth to respond...

the sloka plays in the background when
- her marriage is happening and saras is getting beat up
- it stops when there is red sindoor on her head and blood on saras head.

I guess what smrth means was that the sloka was put in to convey that
- both have not understood the enormity of the mess they are getting into. The parts are too fragmented. They will only be able to understand it when they speak to each other / communicate to each other.

- there is but one existence and which is their love - eternal, immovable, impersihable and indescribable.

- they have no identity without each other.

- while the sloka is a hymn to goad people to work towards finding the unity of the Divine Being - in this context they have work cut out for each one to strive towards finding the unity of their union.

- The red color binds them both - a reminder of the point where each diverged from their path towards a union. It is a reminder and an omen. They have to surrender to it first before they can start their search again.

Disclaimer:
This is my amateur attempt...I could be totally off the mark...

smrth - Over to you. Please release us from this confusion.

Originally posted by: KK84

Reading such beautiful interpretations n analysis I can't stop myself from jumping on this bandwagon! Hope I am allowed to!

I haven't contributed to crisp bytes before so short intro-I am Kat..Gautam Ki deewani 😉

Ok on to the episode:

I couldn't see beyond Saras's pain n repentance. Like he rightly so said in his speech, he did try..he came but he failed in the hands of fate.

Kumud is so hurt that she can't even hear the words that come our from Saras's mouth...direct or indirectly. How did she miss the fact that he came for her...he didnt betray her.

She claims her heart isn't big enough but when it came to marrying someone else, her heart was big enough to think another person may enter it.(at the time she didnt know what Pramaad was like!)

Hate is a very strong feeling n it does get you to stop thinking clearly n here Kumud is victim towards this supposed hatred she feels due to Saras's 'betrayal'

It's funny but I see it as how she has betrayed saras. Yes he rejected her..but from the phone conversation anyone sane would want to find out more...if a guy rejects you, a person who loves you more than life(and shabd joh bhi ho, ehsaas toh nahi mit tah) how did she even believe that he suddenly doesn't love her...she claimed they were soulmates then she failed to understand him
Completely.

Achaa ehsaas ko choro, what about using her brain n sense to find out why he refused to marry her n how does that justify marrying someone in haste.

Yes she cudnt tolerate her parents badnaami n all but I thought they shared a deeper relation than that. She was everything to her father then why not face samaaj ke Taaney n defend her baapu like that!

Anyway ab no point me banging my head on a wall as yeh shaadi toh had to happen!

So for me dono ke saath bewafaai hui hai.

Kumud is being stubborn n this is going to cost her big time because once he leaves she is bound to find out the reasons as to why he felt he cudnt marry her and what happened exactly and yet again they will be victims of fate where it will be too late.

She does have every right to be angry at him n more so now as she is married so she is even more helpless. She has boundaries and 'responsibilities'

Budhidhan's reasonings were totally uncalled for and an educated person like kumud should've atleast been shocked at the revelation. On one hand budhidhan says daughter in laws are equally treated n other hand he has changed his thinking to be backward that's it's a wife's duty to mould a husband.

Saras...my heart felt like a hundred daggers had pierced it. One can't deny that he is hurting. His forgiveness, his thakaan...felt like he has given up hope of living,his urge to be there for kumud...Gautam I want to worship you for such soulful acting! Your expressions are so apt.

The blood on Kumud's forehead sure is a signal...to me it symbolises the pain she goes thru for not forgiving Saras all the same...his wounds won't heal until she forgives him, her wounds can't heal bcos she is unable to forgive him.

Another symbol is that this sindoor that Pramaad has put on her head...that can't last. No matter what she does, it keeps getting wiped off. First when Pramaad rubbed it off her n now this...cos she isn't meant for him.

Overall- I couldn't see beyond Saras's pain. I can't even if I want to. I just can't understand Kumud's stance because those eyes speak volumes.

Kat.xxx

P.S. Gautam is totally nailing it with his intense performance! Hats off!

P.P.S. budhidhan's acting was good when he saw Pramaad lying there drunk! Any father would be just as angry!

Show stealers!! - besides Gautam has to be the actor who is playing Budhidhan!

@ arshi! Lol yeah we will have to agree to disagree! I do sympathise with kumud and she has every right to be angry with him n not forgive him but all I mean to say is that she is at fault too for marrying in haste.

Remember that scene when her dad came to her n asked her if she is sure n all that matters is her happiness...she was angry then at saras but I still to date can't comprehend that she didnt make a huge deal of effort to find out what was happening. I just feel that her love for him was greater than that n she shudnt have given up on him so easily!! (Such a sona Munda mein toh chipak jaati!! Lol!!)

Well I guess it's done now but I just want them to show her love for him too! Like they did when she came to his defence time and time again! Deep down surely she can see that he loves her.

You won't agree perhaps but all she is doing now is wanting to prove to him that he has lost all rights on her. She is someone else's now! But I feel she won't be able to let go of saras until they come to a common ground.

If she doesn't forgive him...the pain that she has got from him won't let her forget him. She possibly can't move on. Sometimes you need closure to move on n by finding out that he did try...she can then move on!

Kat

Originally posted by: KK84

@ arshi! Lol yeah we will have to agree to disagree! I do sympathise with kumud and she has every right to be angry with him n not forgive him but all I mean to say is that she is at fault too for marrying in haste.

Remember that scene when her dad came to her n asked her if she is sure n all that matters is her happiness...she was angry then at saras but I still to date can't comprehend that she didnt make a huge deal of effort to find out what was happening. I just feel that her love for him was greater than that n she shudnt have given up on him so easily!! (Such a sona Munda mein toh chipak jaati!! Lol!!)

Well I guess it's done now but I just want them to show her love for him too! Like they did when she came to his defence time and time again! Deep down surely she can see that he loves her.

You won't agree perhaps but all she is doing now is wanting to prove to him that he has lost all rights on her. She is someone else's now! But I feel she won't be able to let go of saras until they come to a common ground.

If she doesn't forgive him...the pain that she has got from him won't let her forget him. She possibly can't move on. Sometimes you need closure to move on n by finding out that he did try...she can then move on!

Kat