Crisp Bytes SC - 12th July 13 - Page 12

Originally posted by: mandygill

so apt and very well said hotdogg! like always u speak my mind..u r rt in saying that we will never get to see their nok jhonk wale scenes and that they have matured as characters..now the love treat we r going to get will be subtle and to be read more between the lines...waiting for those moments😳..and as far as the execution of episodes is going no complaints..it just looks book perfect!

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

...Thus for me, Kumud was always seeming to hold back, even the night she submitted, the morning-after, she regretted. For whatever reasons. And did not step forward, till she recieved validation.

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Last I must add that with Jennifer uninhibitedly living Kumud now... That dissasociation has all but faded. Verily, they are one and the experience is all the more immersive. However, that affective gap of earlier, on a strictly analytical level, will also contribute to the eventual building of Kumud in my mind's eye... For those moments were the formative building blocks of the Saras-Kumud equation, and those dynamics, the way they were played against each other, have everything to do in regards to where the two stand now. At crossroads, and actually facing each other. Though they will be the last to know that.

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Thank you smrth, vaishali and arshi for the warm welcome... Name was taken on without thought, never much expected to make home here on the forum, but the current richness of the show is such, compounded by the excellent discussions here, have made this CB an integral part of my SC experience. Hence, any variation of such will suffice =)

@smrh Let me indeed concede that 'ego' perhaps is an oversimplification. However, tending to strip to the lowest common denominator helps me get a grasp of the larger picture. I find it more enriching to look forward from an ant's view. It dwarfs me, sure, but it also lights my fires =) At the same, I do not reduce ego to colloquialisms such as "ghamand"... At this juncture I must state, that coming to the show blind, without having the benefit of reading the novel or watching the movie, my foreknowledge of SC was provided by a very moving narration of the novel by an old Gujrati gentleman. Operative word here, affect. I thus came in blind but not cold, my heartstrings were already tugged... But my Kumud is Jennifer Winget, and her acting graph, IMHO, has not exactly been consistent. Verily in the past months, I found myself dissasociating with the character and looking at the actor, at her rumored limitations. Her romantic scenes (excepting one or two) did not convince me... The Grah Pravesh scene of the last, I felt, had more charge than the Kharkhana parting of the two. Again, affect rears its head. Thus for me, Kumud was always seeming to hold back, even the night she submitted, the morning-after, she regretted. For whatever reasons. And did not step forward, till she recieved validation. Morever, her resignation is always accompanied with resolve, and her dignity, cannot be dissassociated from her family's izzat. I have always felt that she is much too strong for her own good... A contrast to Saraswati, from whose payal, now Kumud gathers strength. Ego... Would be more a wilfulness to her, a sense of identity a la Freud, Jung, Lacan... By proposing thus, I do not dismiss, but I submit. To perhaps a greater exploration, that I hope now the show will pursue... It will be a folly to put Kumud in a box so soon. She has much growing to do and that phase has only just started. Or even, to start building her. However, it also wouldn't hurt to start gathering the probable building blocks... Those that will not be used, can always be thrown out later. That is the beauty of making a claim to subjectivity =)

Last I must add that with Jennifer uninhibitedly living Kumud now... That dissasociation has all but faded. Verily, they are one and the experience is all the more immersive. However, that affective gap of earlier, on a strictly analytical level, will also contribute to the eventual building of Kumud in my mind's eye... For those moments were the formative building blocks of the Saras-Kumud equation, and those dynamics, the way they were played against each other, have everything to do in regards to where the two stand now. At crossroads, and actually facing each other. Though they will be the last to know that.

Originally posted by: happychappy

I-viewer, you have amazing command over words, 👏

@red, my more prosaic interpretation ws that Kumud struggled with her first impression of Saras as a "runner". I managed to put it down on Leena (Lakhy)'s thread a couple of days ago -

"...Second, now come over to Kumud's side, she is a bride waiting for the love of her life to come and take her away and she gets this phone call. She panics because somewhere at the back of her mind, she's stored away the first impression she had of him as a person who "runs away"...See the power of first impressions! 😭In her moment of panic, she fears the worst and thinks he's gone back to being the old Saras and ratted on her. Thus she decides to have nothing more to do with him. Period!

Now, why the new, reformed version of Saras who loves her till the ends of the world doesnt have as strong a hold on her mind, I dont know. Maybe he was only in her heart and not in her mind? So her mind was in control at the critical point after getting that lightning strike of a phone call, and she tries to behave logically giving least pain to the loved ones who are still with her, viz., her family!!"

@bold - yes, she is "uninhibitedly living the role of Kumud...' It's an interesting footnote to her performance - all the off-screen noise (real or imagined) and how it may have affected our appreciation of the show, or indeed her performance itself...

Originally posted by: happychappy

"...Second, now come over to Kumud's side, she is a bride waiting for the love of her life to come and take her away and she gets this phone call. She panics because somewhere at the back of her mind, she's stored away the first impression she had of him as a person who "runs away"...See the power of first impressions! 😭In her moment of panic, she fears the worst and thinks he's gone back to being the old Saras and ratted on her. Thus she decides to have nothing more to do with him. Period!

Now, why the new, reformed version of Saras who loves her till the ends of the world doesnt have as strong a hold on her mind, I dont know. Maybe he was only in her heart and not in her mind? So her mind was in control at the critical point after getting that lightning strike of a phone call, and she tries to behave logically giving least pain to the loved ones who are still with her, viz., her family!!"

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Thank you smrth, vaishali and arshi for the warm welcome... Name was taken on without thought, never much expected to make home here on the forum, but the current richness of the show is such, compounded by the excellent discussions here, have made this CB an integral part of my SC experience. Hence, any variation of such will suffice =)

@smrh Let me indeed concede that 'ego' perhaps is an oversimplification. However, tending to strip to the lowest common denominator helps me get a grasp of the larger picture. I find it more enriching to look forward from an ant's view. It dwarfs me, sure, but it also lights my fires =) At the same, I do not reduce ego to colloquialisms such as "ghamand"... At this juncture I must state, that coming to the show blind, without having the benefit of reading the novel or watching the movie, my foreknowledge of SC was provided by a very moving narration of the novel by an old Gujrati gentleman. Operative word here, affect. I thus came in blind but not cold, my heartstrings were already tugged... But my Kumud is Jennifer Winget, and her acting graph, IMHO, has not exactly been consistent. Verily in the past months, I found myself dissasociating with the character and looking at the actor, at her rumored limitations. Her romantic scenes (excepting one or two) did not convince me... The Grah Pravesh scene of the last, I felt, had more charge than the Kharkhana parting of the two. Again, affect rears its head. Thus for me, Kumud was always seeming to hold back, even the night she submitted, the morning-after, she regretted. For whatever reasons. And did not step forward, till she recieved validation. Morever, her resignation is always accompanied with resolve, and her dignity, cannot be dissassociated from her family's izzat. I have always felt that she is much too strong for her own good... A contrast to Saraswati, from whose payal, now Kumud gathers strength. Ego... Would be more a wilfulness to her, a sense of identity a la Freud, Jung, Lacan... By proposing thus, I do not dismiss, but I submit. To perhaps a greater exploration, that I hope now the show will pursue... It will be a folly to put Kumud in a box so soon. She has much growing to do and that phase has only just started. Or even, to start building her. However, it also wouldn't hurt to start gathering the probable building blocks... Those that will not be used, can always be thrown out later. That is the beauty of making a claim to subjectivity =)

Last I must add that with Jennifer uninhibitedly living Kumud now... That dissasociation has all but faded. Verily, they are one and the experience is all the more immersive. However, that affective gap of earlier, on a strictly analytical level, will also contribute to the eventual building of Kumud in my mind's eye... For those moments were the formative building blocks of the Saras-Kumud equation, and those dynamics, the way they were played against each other, have everything to do in regards to where the two stand now. At crossroads, and actually facing each other. Though they will be the last to know that.