Crisp Bytes SC - 12th July 13 - Page 11

Originally posted by: veera25

Smrth bhai! 😲

Thank you so very much for this background context. 👏 Indeed, it has helped me out with my interpretations of the relations within the show yet again! 😳

Indeed, GMT has carefully constructed Gunsandari and Vidyachatur's relationship, for it's interpretation is clear within the show, without any background context. And what an impact their marriage has had upon their children. Indeed this is how Kumud has thought of her marriage to be... As we can see per the PMS track itself, she was basing her decision of PMS upon the relation her parents had, and frequently stated how she had "betrayed her parents" through her decision of consummating with Sara... Smrth bhai, I'm starting to also see the parallels between Gunsundari-VC's relationship and the ideals Kumud had in regards to her relationship and to-be-marriage with Saras.

However, stepping away from the novel, I must admit that such cases of shattered dreams through abusive marriages, which of course are a shock for girls with marriages as grounded as their parents (and without a doubt, girls who have grown up around abuse) are common for many. And again, I'm back to being disheartened by Kumud's ill fate... There will be no mutual understanding, mutual fascination, growth--- mentally, emotionally, spiritually----as a duo for Kumud and Pramad as per Gunsundari and VC, much to Kumud's dismay, and much to my own grief (over her unhappiness) I am completely emotionally divided with this new track. Saras' fate and Kumud's fate are completely tearing me to pieces

Originally posted by: smrth

Veera!..👏

And about bold;

Vidya Chatur- Guniyal was only marriage that was happy ended in the book. It proved a successful bad rock for entire clan of Maan Chatur...so many individuals nurtured and launched successfully in the stream of life (each of the characters we are witnessing has back story- solved by her)..and what a beautiful description- from a young boy VC in his mosal, where Gun Sundari's mother secures betrothal ( era of child marriage) to his going to Mumbai for further studies- return- marriage- their mutual fascination- her willingness to study and his readiness to teach- her growth built on natural talents and extra ordinary capacity for empathy in general- and then lifting all the burden of domestic nitty-gritty of such a vast family, freeing him to pursue his career...not for nothing he eulogise her with such a lovely and apt nick name 'Guniyal'...his expression... GMT has described their marriage with such finesse! Kumud was aspiring her marriage on their example!

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Arshi... Fantastic lines yet again... I wonder what's going on, just as Jennifer continues to out-do herself every epi, so you continue to make your beautifully broken lines even more memorable to read... And I am left to stare in wonder that how do you it 👏

Today's episode, I watched it, was delivered a jolt of lightning bolt, shook myself and watched it again. That is a first for me.

Again, the primordial motif of "ehsaas" was taken further and so was the symbolic wedding rituals that I could feel only Saras and Kumud were partaking in, mainly because of the facelessness of the dulha... Eg the bidaii and the ghar pravesh scene... The color red binds them at every step. And that is a very powerful hue.

The sequence at the Desai's... You could see how they were literally clinging to even the barest hope that they had made the right decision and then in VC's outburst at Saras, you found out where Kumud got her ego from... Apne bapu se. I liked Dugba's thawing towards Kumari. The mother-daughter moment left me warm inside. Personally, I could never understand Dugba's unchecked indulgence of Kumud and her at-times absolute shunning of Kumari. Hopefully that imbalance will be rectified now. Also, here's hoping that the Desai's won't be shafted off to make room for the new household. And I'd really like to see LN and Gumaan back, with Danny and Sunny... These are loose ends, all... And irrevocably entwined with the Saras-Kumud relation.

On that note, a point has to be made... The irony of all rebuking Saras for what he has done to Kumud. Alas, the Desai cannot even fathom the hell they have pushed their pampered, indulged darling into. Nor could< they even imagine that ostensibly when everyone else has forsaken Kumud, Saras still remains ... Immobilised yes, but drenched in the same hue that adorns her, enconsed in the same house she now will have to consider her own, and physically present in her hand in the manifestation of a payal. Soulmates... can never be more connected than this.

Coming to the new household... Uneasiness lurks in their opulence and how you wish you could be transported back to the openess of the Desai haveli or even the clear extravagance of LN's Dubai mansion... The change in place, signifying a new act, really leaves an impact. This is the in-laws turf and they dominate. Kumud, alternately bereft, heartbroken, searching and resolved, is cowed. Saras, he died a little inside seeing his beloved pass by his eyes... That momentary image delivered a blow more lethal than any of the merciless blows rained upon his body. For that impacted his soul...

The MIL, she is no Guniyal, but thankfully she appears to be no Gumaan either. Though no one could really take Saraswati's place... But wait, she is already there. With Kumud, always now. The SIL... There is a dignity to her, a good-heartedness that does not seem politically motivated. The FIL... This guy gives me the chill. Lots more happening beyond the surface. And lastly, the dulha... Sigh you really should have remained faceless. His intro gave me a jolt because to all that uneasiness, gunda gardi, and creepiness, now corresponds a name... Pramad.

The actor was good. Hammered the message home. His dialogue delivery could be worked upon, I felt. I hope domestic abuse scenes won't be shown, I'm hoping the time slot factors in that. I also don't see Kumud as being the one to take that. She was terrified, and rightly so. Because her faith in her father turned out wrong. Kumud will now pay the price for being unduly strong. And Saras will offer his penance too. As soulmates are bound to do. And I'm waiting for realization and regret to hit the Desai's though won't dare hold my breath for it...

Thus with Pramad's in-your-face manic-ness, his disrespect of women, his disdain and contempt towards Kumud, SC moves into a whole new territory, an alien one... Gone is the subtleness, the quiet dignity, gone is the classy extravagance, and of course the innocence... Into the deep red has been dropped the first hint of a black hue, all that remains to be seen is whether this black spreads or how soon the red overpowers it. As it should.

Originally posted by: happychappy

IdiotViewer, I enjoy reading your posts. Your narrative style is gripping, to say the least😊

I liked the contrast you highlight between Saras and Pramad, the red and the black, One, a truly noble spirit, soul mate and lover ... The other, base, debauched and violent... Both entwined in Kumud's life in completely opposite ways, as Arshi said, one is her husband without being married to her, while the other is married to her but is no husband at all...

This moment in the drama is finely poised as the action moves from the old-worldly aristocratic haveli to the political powerhouse mansion. I hope to see the characters of Saras and Kumud evolving in the new environment in ways that would not disappoint us who care so much about them!

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Bold 1 : iViewer, you bring an additional depth to the discussions with your insights, and so I second hgg

Bold 2: my problem too, IViewer sounds nice, hope you don't mind it, great idea hgg

@ red : hotdogg, 👏 superb explanation for how the events unfolded over the last few days, once again your analysis has bowled me over!

Edited by arshicritic - 12 years ago

Originally posted by: smrth

@ idiot Viewer (what a paradox),

That's a superb piece of writing! Wel-come aboard- CB chronicles and SC the serial...enjoyed every bit of it.😊

And Red!..aah, i had a similar impression from these two...you elaborated so eloquently!

all your points 👍🏼...though a minor disagreement at one; per me, it's not Kumud's Ego...all here are insisting it, so it might be so and i might be wrong. But looking overall, its more a resigned preservation of self dignity and her primal loyalty to her parents, both...of the former, whatever she can salvage...but again i might be erring.

Looking forward to read you always.😊

Originally posted by: hotdogg

arshi...take a bow!...another perfect CB epi synthesis...the right crisp words highlighting all the emotions and contrasts of the situation both find themselves in...

@bold...loved the description!

Today the story firmly moves into Act 2...

1) But wicked wicked CVs...uptil now they kept us on tenterhooks right till the end of Act 1 ...and now have dug their sadistic hooks into us till end of Act 2...

..pramad seems to be a thoroughly horrible person who wants no relationship with kumud...same as the novel...

..although our initial reaction is full of relief...the elephant in the room now is that if they are following the novel to the T...then pramad will be bumped off sometime later...BUT samud will never unite...so which is which?

...so back to the biting nails, anxiety and nausea...the works!...ugh!!!

2) Liked the repeated depiction of the 'ehsaas' between these two surviving all this mess...samud will always be together in spirit..

3) Also feel sad today because this is the end of the age of innocence ... when their interactions / fights / make-ups were largely concerned with each other's quirks / 'he said this - she said these' type issues etc...

..now even if their love grows even more stronger going forward, they will always feel the acute sense of loss of their seperation due to their impulsiveness weighing down / subtracting something from their overall sense of whatever little wellbeing / happiness they manage to extract...

... its a pity that both have been forced to grow up overnight ...and those carefree days will never come back...it's just not fair for these two...they deserve so much better...

Like the Dil Dhoonhta Hai song from Mausam

Dil dhoondhtaa, hai phir wahi fursat Ke raat din
baithhe rahen tasawwur-e-Jaanaa kiye huye
dil dhoondhtaa, hai phir wahi fursat ke raat din
dil dhoondhtaa, hai phir wahie...

Originally posted by: vaishali-AR

@Idiotviewer- You are fantastic! absolute pleasure to have you on CB.. hoping to see you post regularly :)

@smrth- why so fixed on the ending? What GMT thought was an apt ending of his novel, is not falling in line with Star Plus's nayi soch.. just practically speaking.. we have already deviated on a very crucial point from the novel- the physical union.. the scene as such was ''disappointing'' but the impact on the finality of events will be impactful..*fingers crossed* and no HDDCS atleast be happy for that , for the time being.. Kumud doesn't seem as resolved to not forgive Saras... thats how it seemed by the way she clutching the payal and the smile she got when she held the white odhni.. By the look of it, it seems they know what works for the show, so we can hope for a confrontation scene early next week.. Did anyone else get a weird feeling about the politician sister who rescued Saras?I thought she was married and has a kid as per an article but she was alone in the car.. Is she going to fall for Saras?