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Posted: 12 years ago
#41
I agree.. Its a new learning ofthe medium and its dymanics for him and course corrections are part of the process...

Why the changes?.. Its simple.. Look how much the world has changed..attitudes, outlook, defination of morality, acceptable social behaviour since the time the novel was written...keeping the same structure won't work as most won't connect..

So many things which are normal today just weren't then..

Let me give an e.g. The entire women's lib movement with women entering the workplace in the western world happened due to WW-2, because the men were fighting or dead .. And there was no one else to run the factories producing goods and arms..

If you look at the entire western world before WW-2, it had a similar social structure you see in less economically developed countries - arranged marriages, focus on babies, Man as the sole earner and key decision maker, social skills and not professional courses..

We live in today and feel the current world view natural as it should be..no doubt about it..

But its been only 60 years since WW2...

Imagine the disconnect if the novel were to reproduced with the same story based 150 - 200 years ago on that time's socially considered normal behaviour...it would be shot down or laughed out..

So either make a period drama which retains everything from the novel...which starts with low trp appeal anyway..

Or.. Try to do an adaption, modernize and try to retain the essence..essence bring character, nobleness, love, duty, honor, respect for others, sacrifice etc..


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Also why this story picked by SLB..

I always get the feeling SLB is a machoist regarding love..all his love story films are about incomplete love..so maybe this was the height of such a preference... First the lady gets married off to someone else.. Then the guy needs to marry someone else...

Now trps are forcing the reevaluation.. TV is a tiger he cannot ride like he can in films..

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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Arshi, pls bear with me as the comments I am going to write below are more of my running thoughts. I have been thinking of this question ever since we had the discussion last time.

If we see any movie or show adapted from a book, the procedure I think is almost the same. When a producer buys the right to adapt a book for sometime, the two parties here are the producer and the author.
If we see from the author's perspective, is it a good experience having his book adapted, that too by a big producer ? The answer is Yes, one is financial benefit. He receives royalties with almost no extra work.And for many a book adapted for a TV show, is a great exposure and recognition that his book gets, that he himself receives. Tell me frankly, how many of us have heard of the novel "Saraswathichandra" before SLB came up with the show ? I haven't, it was only after he started the promotion of the show I digged up wiki of the book and started browsing around for more information. Isn't that a publicity for the author and the book, which most unknown to many. This might even help the book getting revived in this era, who knows.

Now about the license of a remaker with the original, as far as I know any author who knows the industry would be aware that adaptation of his book is not without dangerous risks.It is not the first time any book has been adapted and made into a film and the risks can be anything like dialogues not written properly, lack of understanding of the book or absurd picturisation etc. I think when a producer adapts the book, he has license to change it accordingly with the media, with the likes of the audience rather than stick to the original. I will just go with one example, one of my favourite thrillers, The Relic, killed off a character that was actually to be a main antagonist in the novel. I think it depends on perspective, if the goal is to share a story or the characters to the audience, then a screen adaptation is the best way and seeing SLB's work I have always felt that is what he wants to do. He tries to bring to screen the best forgotten historical stories and the younger generation who have never read the sequel or won't ever do atleast will be aware that something as this existed. I think I have deviated myself from the question, so as for my POV..the remaker has plenty of license to deviate from the original. I think the purits have to come to terms with the fact that every scene of a book cannot be copied into a movie or a show. If we have different perspective of a single scene in the forum, even reading a book might have a different intepretation/perspection of the story and the characters.So why doesn't SLB have the license to show his intepretation and inorder to meet the media demands,the satisfaction of the current audience and the TRP's we all have to agree that he needs to add the right amount of spices to make his show running. I am sure the author understands it, otherwise he would never have parted with his work.

As for your second question, I was thinking the same when @hotdogg gave us the details of the novel. As far as I can understand it depends on the individual SLB. If we see his work every single project of his has been huge and on different topics. He might be a man who has a vision to see a work he likes brought alive and as far as I have seen his movies he does justice to the work making it unique.Now this show is his first venture into TV, so surely has the disadvantages.Making a movie and a TV show are quite different but as I read somewhere he wanted to experiment on it and it depends if he will succecced or not. But without trying how will he know. As for choosing a story like SC,he had told in one of his interviews that he wanted to make this into a movie but since the sequel is so huge he felt inorder to do justice to the whole novel it would be better to make it into a TV show. The show can base the characters and the synopsis of the novel but can't be made the same as the original. It is not a different story altogether, we are still getting the story of SC in love with Kumud,a step mom who was supposed to be evil and the two families who seem to have a story to tell. If Kumud marries another man, then the synopsis of the story is completely there. It is only that for a screen adaptation which is needed for current audience there needs to be added masala.

It is completely my POV, I am sure many would disagree on this but inorder to find a right balance between the novel and the media, deviations from the original are absolutely necessary and it has always been that way as far as I know.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#44
Sorry, only after I posted I realised I had written a story alltogether. This is what happens when I sometimes go overboard with my thoughts, thank god it is within your post. Outside might have resulted in me dumped off the forum 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: hotdogg


So either A make a period drama which retains everything from the novel...which starts with low trp appeal anyway..

Or.. B Try to do an adaption, modernize and try to retain the essence..essence bring character, nobleness, love, duty, honor, respect for others, sacrifice etc..



Now, that's a choice that will make a whole lot people happy, and a whole other lot feel let down, either which way he goes...

I would be happy with choice B, because we'd still have a show to watch that may be worth watching. (And the PH will get to recover their sunk costs like sets...)

I cant see how choice A is economically viable for the PH, they are not in it to lose money? Even the original author Mr. Tripathi being a true-blue Gujju would have seen it from SLB's angle, perhaps??? Just in a manner of speaking, guys...😆

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Posted: 12 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Also why this story picked by SLB..

I always get the feeling SLB is a machoist regarding love..all his love story films are about incomplete love..so maybe this was the height of such a preference... First the lady gets married off to someone else.. Then the guy needs to marry someone else...

Now trps are forcing the reevaluation.. TV is a tiger he cannot ride like he can in films..

@hotdogg, if I had read your comments before I wrote mine I would never have written mine. You are absolutely right, a story of that century can't be shown to the current audience. I think as far as I have read the informations, the novel itself narrates the story a bit forward for it's time rather than sticking to the customs and traditions of that century.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: happychappy


Now, that's a choice that will make a whole lot people happy, and a whole other lot feel let down, either which way he goes...

I would be happy with choice B, because we'd still have a show to watch that may be worth watching. (And the PH will get to recover their sunk costs like sets...)

I cant see how choice A is economically viable for the PH, they are not in it to lose money? Even the original author Mr. Tripathi being a true-blue Gujju would have seen it from SLB's angle, perhaps??? Just in a manner of speaking, guys...😆
I have to agree with you happy, if it was A not sure how many viewers would watch it and it would be a suicidal attempt by the PH. It would make the purists happy but how many are there. Not that choice B is not suicidal, but atleast there is an option that you might still float through and still achieve something which was a master piece.

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Posted: 12 years ago
#48
@hotdogg, Happychappy and Kaadal,

What a time I chose to move away from my laptop, good in a way, I have come back to find such a rich discussion

Kaadal, I am glad then you did not read hotdogg's post, because you took a different perspective,

that of the author, whereas hotdogg looked at it from the viewers perspective.


So first question at hotdogg's perspective:

I will take the example of an all time fav and among the most popular of classics - Pride and

Prejudice - it has been made and remade, as itself, as an

adaptation, as an inspiration, but the viewers have always related to the original more than any

other adapted version - the Victorian era, the costumes, the balls and chaperones were so

charming but that's at a superficial level, the conflict between Mr Darcy and Elizabeth made sense

only in that setting, in a contemporary setting, the whole conflict gets redefined, and the

Elizabeth and Darcy of today are no where like the ones in my mind, the ones I fell in love with.

They are different people with the same name.

Two I did not live in the victorian era but understand it by reading and watching movies about it

The acceptance that people then thought differently and acted differently - we would not judge

them by our social norms, rather learn and accept theirs


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Posted: 12 years ago
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this question @ Kaadal's perspective:

so, the author and the adapter both earn cash and fame, but what about the integrity of the creation

itself?

the original story in which Saras was a weakling, and by making him a strong hot character,

we no longer have the same Saras, and by not having a self sacrificing Kumud,

we no longer have have the same Kumud, so we no longer have the same story

what about the ethical issue of honesty to a piece of art?


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Posted: 12 years ago
#50
When do the TRP ratings come out? For the first time, I am eagerly waiting for the result

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