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Posted: 15 years ago
#51
Dont worry guys (Choco and Pricy), I understand your tensions towards Sadhna. I have seen Pricy's tension when Sadi went outside Agra.... 😆
Now nothing will happen to Salekh love. Their love is beyond any divorce, deal or contract. Alekh has totally understood what Sadhna is. So leave all your tensions and enjoy Salekh and Ragvir love and at the same time enjoy Alvir and Sagini love also.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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@ pricey nice post 👏👏👏👏agreeing with u only a person with heart but along with mind can see her mistakes, Iam writing this because sum are here referring that it need heart to understand her character iam including mind too. she took aalekh for granted and expecting that he will understand wht she was going through was shocking. He is not Antaryami .Some of her deeds are blunders and she should be apologetic for that .Iam getting your point.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: chocolover89


</div>But just because Alekh takes pride in that doesn't mean that we, the viewers,must also. And sacrifices of any kind inANY indian show are glorified, regrdless of whether theyar right or not.
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@bold
And he has repented! He left his house, money, luqxuries, everything,slept on a bench, worked so hard to get a job just for her!


And about the divorce, well then atleast, it would have been a divorce for the right reasons, ie one involving both spouses, not some external person. Then Alekh-Sadhna would have divorced because they cannot be together, not because Sdahna decided to use Alekh as a scapegoat to save her Mami's life when she clearly had other options.



😔 Sadana did not use Alekh as a scapegoat.

and why is this point being raised again and again. Alekh did what ever he did, and I expect more from him, and that is why I am starting to count him in my good books again.

He is still very weak for sadana.

She signed those papers with a signature , but Alekh divorced her with words/actions and even RAJAN ji realized that and that is why when , he went back to sadana he said I have the answer for your question that if I were normal would he accept her.

So lets not go there, that topic is DONE khatam khalas dead, done for finished, aipoch, aipoindhi, hogaya, samapth...

Alekh left the house, amm ok ,
Alekh left his luxuries , amm ok
Alekh left his job/viraasat, amm ok
Alekh slept on the bench .. oookkkk.

and the point is...????
🤔

Sadhana, Sacrificed her LIFE for Alekh by taking care of him like a friend, like a mother, like a wife.

I mean do people understand here WHY, did Vasu want a wife for Alekh and not a nurse?

It is not just because she wanted to prove to people that she can get a good looking spouse for her son as she challenged as the whole act was preplanned from when Sadi first came to rajvansh house. The whole party deal was just an act, vasu wanted her as a wife from day one. Why? Why not as a nurse?

Because, people here need to understand, specially those who call her a nurse and someone who got paid for her services...

a Person who is of Alekh's mental stature not just needs a nurse,
he needs someone to be his friend,
a motherly type behaviour, taking care of his needs and I mean all types of needs.

He is a GROWN MAN and it is real, that, people of this mentality CAN GET physical. So can they get physical with a Nurse?

No, he needs a wife? and will any wife take such from a man? I mean today if a man forces his wife then it comes in the terms of Marital Rape so what about people who do not have mental stability? what if they do something out of urge or some crazed up moment which woman can take that?...


NO ONE !

except people like Sadhana...

She Knew what she was getting into. It was NOT just being a NURSE?

Please think on the amount of sacrifice that a woman of her situation had to make.

So please, Alekh's leaving luxuries blah blah is NOTHING compared to what she gotten into.

Now its a different thing that , nothing of such sort happened but when you 'Sign a contract' as many of the people here state, they get the profits as well as the losses so Sadi got into it and she could have easily stepped out and breached her contract but she didn't she stayed. Cause you know why? she knew taht she was "his wife"

and She was hurt, when Alekh chose to not stand for her when he became normal.

She realized that even though She took him as her husband... he took her as HIS nurse.

============ which is very well stated by many here==========

So NO I do not think she needs to repent for anything.
And if she signed the divorce So what. As if he was going to be effected by it. He wanted to get married to malika and he didn't cause of Ragi and Ranveer so yeah he is VERY weak.

Actually I am afraid he will divorce her in the slightest of hava ka jhonka.. even though he loves her, but I still need to see him stand the test of time.

Leaving house and stuff hasn't' really proven much to me. The real test of time still awaits.

Vasu Vs. Sadhana...

cause now, the real relationships will start to bloom. Where he has to recognize Vasu as well as Sadhana and how is he going to balance them both?

thats the real test now...
Lets see...
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Posted: 15 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: suchitra_1



😔 Sadana did not use Alekh as a scapegoat.

and why is this point being raised again and again. Alekh did what ever he did, and I expect more from him, and that is why I am starting to count him in my good books again.

He is still very weak for sadana.

She signed those papers with a signature , but Alekh divorced her with words/actions and even RAJAN ji realized that and that is why when , he went back to sadana he said I have the answer for your question that if I were normal would he accept her.

So lets not go there, that topic is DONE khatam khalas dead, done for finished, aipoch, aipoindhi, hogaya, samapth...

Alekh left the house, amm ok ,
Alekh left his luxuries , amm ok
Alekh left his job/viraasat, amm ok
Alekh slept on the bench .. oookkkk.

and the point is...????
🤔

Sadhana, Sacrificed her LIFE for Alekh by taking care of him like a friend, like a mother, like a wife.

I mean do people understand here WHY, did Vasu want a wife for Alekh and not a nurse?

It is not just because she wanted to prove to people that she can get a good looking spouse for her son as she challenged as the whole act was preplanned from when Sadi first came to rajvansh house. The whole party deal was just an act, vasu wanted her as a wife from day one. Why? Why not as a nurse?

Because, people here need to understand, specially those who call her a nurse and someone who got paid for her services...

a Person who is of Alekh's mental stature not just needs a nurse,
he needs someone to be his friend,
a motherly type behaviour, taking care of his needs and I mean all types of needs.

He is a GROWN MAN and it is real, that, people of this mentality CAN GET physical. So can they get physical with a Nurse?

No, he needs a wife? and will any wife take such from a man? I mean today if a man forces his wife then it comes in the terms of Marital Rape so what about people who do not have mental stability? what if they do something out of urge or some crazed up moment which woman can take that?...


NO ONE !

except people like Sadhana...

She Knew what she was getting into. It was NOT just being a NURSE?

Please think on the amount of sacrifice that a woman of her situation had to make.

So please, Alekh's leaving luxuries blah blah is NOTHING compared to what she gotten into.

Now its a different thing that , nothing of such sort happened but when you 'Sign a contract' as many of the people here state, they get the profits as well as the losses so Sadi got into it and she could have easily stepped out and breached her contract but she didn't she stayed. Cause you know why? she knew taht she was "his wife"

and She was hurt, when Alekh chose to not stand for her when he became normal.

She realized that even though She took him as her husband... he took her as HIS nurse.

============ which is very well stated by many here==========

So NO I do not think she needs to repent for anything.
And if she signed the divorce So what. As if he was going to be effected by it. He wanted to get married to malika and he didn't cause of Ragi and Ranveer so yeah he is VERY weak.

Actually I am afraid he will divorce her in the slightest of hava ka jhonka.. even though he loves her, but I still need to see him stand the test of time.

Leaving house and stuff hasn't' really proven much to me. The real test of time still awaits.

Vasu Vs. Sadhana...

cause now, the real relationships will start to bloom. Where he has to recognize Vasu as well as Sadhana and how is he going to balance them both?

thats the real test now...
Lets see...

Urghh...I just lost my whole reply and am retyping this now...
I am not saying Sadhna is not a VERY good person with a beautiful heart. I am not saying that Sadhna did not take very good care of Alekh when he was mentally unstable as a wife. I am not saying that Sadhna hasn't made numerous sacrifices and has had a very unpleasant life. I applaud her for staying in a marriage with a violent mentally unstable man, when she was cheated into marrying him, and changing him for the better.
What I am saying is that Sadhna did not need to sign the divorce papers when she had other options available. Ranvir would have given the money without a problem since it was his beloved wife's mother's life on the line. And yes, mamaji is a man of principles and would not like to accept money from his daughter's in-laws. But where did the money eventually come from?
I have never called Sadhna a nurse. And I don't think Alekh ever considered sadhna to be his nurse. He simply picked his mother, who to him he had mistreated for 20 years, over his wife, not that it makes what he did acceptable. It was more his guilt that was acting.
IMO, Sadhna and Alekh were both wonderful spouses uptil Alekh got normal. Then both went downhil. Alekh is trying his best to come back up, and Sadhna still has faulty priorities that I hope she decides to do something about..
@bold
Alekh only agreed to marry Mallika AFTER Sadhna signed teh papers. He only signed the divorce papers after sadhna also. The first time Vasu suggested divorce, Alekh refused and walked away.
Anyways this is an endless debate, and it's better to agree to disagree and to just let it go.
Edited by chocolover89 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: chocolover89

Urghh...I just lost my whole reply and am retyping this now...

I am not saying Sadhna is not a VERY good person with a beautiful heart. I am not saying that Sadhna did not take very good care of Alekh when he was mentally unstable as a wife. I am not saying that Sadhna hasn't made numerous sacrifices and has had a very unpleasant life. I applaud her for staying in a marriage with a violent mentally unstable man, when she was cheated into marrying him, and changing him for the better.
What I am saying is that Sadhna did not need to sign the divorce papers when she had other options available. Ranvir would have given the money without a problem since it was his beloved wife's mother's life on the line. And yes, mamaji is a man of principles and would not like to accept money from his daughter's in-laws. But where did the money eventually come from?
I have never called Sadhna a nurse. And I don't think Alekh ever considered sadhna to be his nurse. He simply picked his mother, who to him he had mistreated for 20 years, over his wife, not that it makes what he did acceptable. It was more his guilt that was acting.
IMO, Sadhna and Alekh were both wonderful spouses uptil Alekh got normal. Then both went downhil. Alekh is trying his best to come back up, and Sadhna still has faulty priorities that I hope she decides to do something about..
@bold
Alekh only agreed to marry Mallika AFTER Sadhna signed teh papers. He only signed the divorce papers after sadhna also. The first time Vasu suggested divorce, Alekh refused and walked away.
Anyways this is an endless debate, and it's better to agree to disagree and to just let it go.


@Red Money though eventually came from Vasu, Sadhana had worked hard to earn from Natraj Mahotsav.If Ragini was not manipulated to take part in the competition and again Sadhana emotionally shaken by Ragini's statements, Sadhana would have got the money!
@Blue Alekh was dancing with Mallika in a party in front of Sadhana while Vasu claimed Mallika would be right match for Alekh.I guess Alekh never signed the divorce papers though.
My POV is Sadhana has done her fare share of mistakes (in our eyes) but it is nothing compared the mountain of good things she has done.If a person like Sadhana needs to repent than so should any good person on earth!
I feel this argument will never end as goodness and badness are always relative to a situation, person and time.

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Posted: 15 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: suchitra_1



😔 Sadana did not use Alekh as a scapegoat.

and why is this point being raised again and again. Alekh did what ever he did, and I expect more from him, and that is why I am starting to count him in my good books again.

He is still very weak for sadana.

She signed those papers with a signature , but Alekh divorced her with words/actions and even RAJAN ji realized that and that is why when , he went back to sadana he said I have the answer for your question that if I were normal would he accept her.

So lets not go there, that topic is DONE khatam khalas dead, done for finished, aipoch, aipoindhi, hogaya, samapth...

Alekh left the house, amm ok ,
Alekh left his luxuries , amm ok
Alekh left his job/viraasat, amm ok
Alekh slept on the bench .. oookkkk.

and the point is...????
🤔

Sadhana, Sacrificed her LIFE for Alekh by taking care of him like a friend, like a mother, like a wife.

I mean do people understand here WHY, did Vasu want a wife for Alekh and not a nurse?

It is not just because she wanted to prove to people that she can get a good looking spouse for her son as she challenged as the whole act was preplanned from when Sadi first came to rajvansh house. The whole party deal was just an act, vasu wanted her as a wife from day one. Why? Why not as a nurse?

Because, people here need to understand, specially those who call her a nurse and someone who got paid for her services...

a Person who is of Alekh's mental stature not just needs a nurse,
he needs someone to be his friend,
a motherly type behaviour, taking care of his needs and I mean all types of needs.

He is a GROWN MAN and it is real, that, people of this mentality CAN GET physical. So can they get physical with a Nurse?

No, he needs a wife? and will any wife take such from a man? I mean today if a man forces his wife then it comes in the terms of Marital Rape so what about people who do not have mental stability? what if they do something out of urge or some crazed up moment which woman can take that?...


NO ONE !

except people like Sadhana...

She Knew what she was getting into. It was NOT just being a NURSE?

Please think on the amount of sacrifice that a woman of her situation had to make.

So please, Alekh's leaving luxuries blah blah is NOTHING compared to what she gotten into.

Now its a different thing that , nothing of such sort happened but when you 'Sign a contract' as many of the people here state, they get the profits as well as the losses so Sadi got into it and she could have easily stepped out and breached her contract but she didn't she stayed. Cause you know why? she knew taht she was "his wife"

and She was hurt, when Alekh chose to not stand for her when he became normal.

She realized that even though She took him as her husband... he took her as HIS nurse.

============ which is very well stated by many here==========

So NO I do not think she needs to repent for anything.
And if she signed the divorce So what. As if he was going to be effected by it. He wanted to get married to malika and he didn't cause of Ragi and Ranveer so yeah he is VERY weak.

Actually I am afraid he will divorce her in the slightest of hava ka jhonka.. even though he loves her, but I still need to see him stand the test of time.

Leaving house and stuff hasn't' really proven much to me. The real test of time still awaits.

Vasu Vs. Sadhana...

cause now, the real relationships will start to bloom. Where he has to recognize Vasu as well as Sadhana and how is he going to balance them both?

thats the real test now...
Lets see...

You are right, Suchitra. Totally agree with you.
But, this Alekh has changed. He has become matured. Dont think he will become weak again. His transition was shown beautifully. So there is no chance of he becoming weak again.
And what you have said (@ Bold), is really true and scary though nothing of that sort happened. Sadi knew the consequences very well still she jumped into that fire. Ok, Alekh was cute and innocent, so they had a great friendly relation. But, this guaranttee no one (not even Vasu) could give her. Imagine their first night.... I still dont understand how people can still call her "nurse".
Now in the current track, Sadi jumped to fire to save Vasu. So has she thought if at all she dies in that accident, what would happen to Alekh? She never thought. But here her actions are justifed. Why? Because she went to save Alekh's mother. Then what is wrong in she signing the divorce papers when she wanted to save her mother (Kaushi)? Signing the divorce paper and jumping to fire, both are not very different. In both ways, chances are there that she will leave Alekh alone.
Sadi's character at times is beyond many of our imagination. Where we think, now nothing can be done, she goes one step ahead.
And as you said before, when one behaves in a way which we cant believe, then we tend to call them by giving names like "Harishandra" or "Gandhi" instead of identifying the goodness in Harishandra/Gandhi.
Anyways, this topic has no end. And I think in Bidai atleast there is no more chances of this cycle repeating again. Now it is only your Andu bhai's track. After that, Bidai will surely end. Hopefully...:)
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Posted: 15 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: chocolover89

Urghh...I just lost my whole reply and am retyping this now...

I am not saying Sadhna is not a VERY good person with a beautiful heart. I am not saying that Sadhna did not take very good care of Alekh when he was mentally unstable as a wife. I am not saying that Sadhna hasn't made numerous sacrifices and has had a very unpleasant life. I applaud her for staying in a marriage with a violent mentally unstable man, when she was cheated into marrying him, and changing him for the better.
What I am saying is that Sadhna did not need to sign the divorce papers when she had other options available. Ranvir would have given the money without a problem since it was his beloved wife's mother's life on the line. And yes, mamaji is a man of principles and would not like to accept money from his daughter's in-laws. But where did the money eventually come from?
I have never called Sadhna a nurse. And I don't think Alekh ever considered sadhna to be his nurse. He simply picked his mother, who to him he had mistreated for 20 years, over his wife, not that it makes what he did acceptable. It was more his guilt that was acting.
IMO, Sadhna and Alekh were both wonderful spouses uptil Alekh got normal. Then both went downhil. Alekh is trying his best to come back up, and Sadhna still has faulty priorities that I hope she decides to do something about..
@bold
Alekh only agreed to marry Mallika AFTER Sadhna signed teh papers. He only signed the divorce papers after sadhna also. The first time Vasu suggested divorce, Alekh refused and walked away.
Anyways this is an endless debate, and it's better to agree to disagree and to just let it go.

First of all, I can imagine your frustration (this time not towards Sadi) regarding retyping the whole thing again. Actually, we will be in such a josh and we try to analyze beautifully and if it gets lost, then I know how horrible it is. I too have faced this 😭
I know you have never said anything about Sadi's intentions. You always appreciated it. But, you always tried to question her ways, which, to an extent is debatable.
It is just a bad phase for Salekh. But, with this difficulties they have faced, now they are a beautful couple. This is what we all wanted. And we are getting to see that (If CTs show some mercy).
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Purehearts


@Red Money though eventually came from Vasu, Sadhana had worked hard to earn from Natraj Mahotsav.If Ragini was not manipulated to take part in the competition and again Sadhana emotionally shaken by Ragini's statements, Sadhana would have got the money!
@Blue Alekh was dancing with Mallika in a party in front of Sadhana while Vasu claimed Mallika would be right match for Alekh.I guess Alekh never signed the divorce papers though.
My POV is Sadhana has done her fare share of mistakes (in our eyes) but it is nothing compared the mountain of good things she has done.If a person like Sadhana needs to repent than so should any good person on earth!
I feel this argument will never end as goodness and badness are always relative to a situation, person and time.

You are right. Though some of her actions are debatable, it is nothing compared to the good things she has done.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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wow iam surprised and happy their is going a healthy and very interesting discussion.
And thankfully no unnecessary dragging of any other character that can create fuss.Lovely discussion guyz.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetkanu

wow iam surprised and happy their is going a healthy and very interesting discussion.

And thankfully no unnecessary dragging of any other character that can create fuss.Lovely discussion guyz.

You are right. There is a healthy discussion going on here 😊
Though this is a fiction and we all know that, these characters are not real, we tend to have favorites for our own reasons. Ragini, Sadhna, Alelkh and Ranvir are the main leads of the show and naturally, all are positive. As no one is perfect, these characters and their behaviors may have raised questions in viewers at certain situations. Attacking the characters (who dont have any selfish motives) and bashing them left and right, will definately hurt their fans.
Where as, I dont see anything seriously wrong in criticizing the negative characters (earlier versions of Kaushi & Vasu 😆) because what they were doing was only with selfish motives. I myself have criticized Vasu.
Whatever it is, the criticisim should be in a healthy way. There is a way to convey our feelings. And if it is conveyed in that way, then nobody will feel bad. And there will be healthy arguments. And finally, we all can agree to disagree 😊
Edited by reguser - 15 years ago

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